Chrissy Polis to sue McDonalds over beating

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Dosn't matter if it was a tranny or a granny still a human being.

Thank you for this quote!!! :clap2: I registered on this site just to tell you that. Bravo. :clap2:

Since I'm here, though, I hope you don't mind if I weigh in on this issue because I'm pretty darned passionate about it. I have lots that I'd like to say, but I'll stick to the legal stuff. I apologize in advance if this post is long.

IMO, both of the victims in this case have a very solid claim against the franchise owner. There is a duty in Maryland for business owners to provide a safe environment for their customers. The question is whether the owner knew or should have known of violent incidents in the surrounding area. Since there have been violent incidents at that McDonald's before, I'm pretty sure any decent attorney can make hay on this.

In addition, my understanding is that the McDonald's handbook requires management to do the following in this situation:

1) CALL 911 IMMEDIATELY. - They didn't call 911 for more than 10 minutes. Not until the victim has a seizure, in fact. (She has epilepsy. That's why she's holding her head so much in the video - she feels a seizure coming on.) A doctor who saw the video says that her grand mal seizure was very real, so I'm going to take his word over "Charm" Hackett's (the videographer) on this one.
2) ESCORT THE OFFENDERS OUTSIDE THE STORE IMMEDIATELY, IF POSSIBLE. - Since they were two teenage girls, I'm pretty sure that he could have managed this one with ease. He certainly shows no fear of them in the video and he makes only a very weak, half-hearted attempt to get them out of the store. Pathetic, in fact. I'm a middle aged woman and I could have done better. (I think the jury is really going to LOVE the part where he stops protecting the victim to pick up some trash on the floor, btw. Nice!)
3) LOCK THE DOORS BEHIND THE OFFENDERS. - Not only did he fail to lock the doors when they left, he allowed them reentry more than once! Most of the injuries to Ms. Polis occur after he fails to lock the doors behind them. Ms. Thoms (the good samaritan) is also punched after they came back inside. This is going to prove to be a very expensive mistake, I think. I hope.
4) CEASE ALL OPERATIONS UNTIL THE POLICE ARRIVE. - They seem to go on their merry way throughout.

Assuming that my information about the management handbook is correct, the manager on duty that night completely mishandled the situation. As a direct result of this, Ms. Polis and Ms. Thoms both suffered injury. The franchise owner is liable for the actions of his staff. Ergo: Ms. Polis, Ms. Thoms and their attorneys are going to be able to sue the pants off this franchise owner. They may end up as co-owners, as a matter of fact.

I think they'll be able to collect just because the assailants were allowed to reenter the premises. There is no one on a jury who would believe that preventing these women from coming back inside was beyond the scope of the managers duty or ability. It's simple common sense and well within the scope of what a reasonable person would do in that situation. As we used to say: DUH!

Any jury that watches all 10+ minutes of the full clip is going to be in a hanging mood. It gets worse for the franchise, though. Baltimore County runs all the way up to PA. This will be a mostly white jury made up of people who are not desensitized to violence. Watching two people simultaneously kick the completely unresisting victim in the head and even stomp on her head is going to be shocking to them the same way it was to most of us.

I know I'll get beaten up for saying this, but the race of the victim and attackers is going to factor into the jury's decision, too. Watching that white girl, trans gender or not, get kicked in the head repeatedly and dragged around by her hair is going to impact their decision. Right or wrong, it just will. The fact that she would have been dragged outside and probably killed if not for the intervention of Ms. Thoms is also going to impact their decision.

The fact that some employees are laughing during this brutal attack is going to add big dollars to the payout, too, not to mention that one of the employees appears to steal something that falls out of Ms. Polis' purse while she's being attacked. Talk about a completely unsympathetic defendant! It's pretty much the perfect storm against this franchise. McDonald's legal staff must be eating Tums by the bushel, and I can't even imagine what the insurance company that covers this franchise is going through.

The final nail in the coffin of this franchise owner is that the same woman who attacked Ms. Polis and Ms. Thoms (Brown, the 18 year old) was arrested in July, 2010 for another assault on another customer at that same franchise. She should never have been allowed into that franchise that evening. So, not only was there prior violence at this Mickey D's, there was violence against a customer that was perpetrated by the same assailant. Dollars to donuts that's not the only event, either.

Attorneys must be lining up outside the homes of both Ms. Polis and Ms. Thoms with their tongues hanging out. as they sharpen their knives. I usually hate tort lawsuits, but in this case I hope both victims stick it to this franchise. They should try to sue McDonald's Corp. as well. An attorney could make a good argument that McDonald's has a huge problem with violence against both their employees and their customers and therefore should be requiring franchisees with known problems to provide more security for their customers. Worth a try. right? After all, there are about 1,000 youtube videos of violent episodes in McDonalds and there have been two shootings in McDonald's this week alone.

IMHO, it is high time McDonald's hired some bouncers, at a minimum. They do it a lot in the UK and they have security in some of their stores in the US already. Things would have gone very differently that night if any kind of trained security was present. These girls should have been ousted when they first raised their voices and then this incident would never have happened.

Like someone here said, if you can't provide a safe environment for your customers, you shouldn't be in business. At the end of the day, security staff is WAY cheaper than a multimillion dollar lawsuit, that's for sure.

Sorry to run on so long. Thanks for letting me rant.
 
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Chrissy Lee Polis, the transgender woman brutally beaten by two teens in a Baltimore, Maryland area McDonald’s one week ago, says the attack was definitely a hate crime, and adds she will sue McDonald’s and the McDonald’s employees who stood by, according to reports. The employees were momentarily filmed watching and laughing in a three-minute video, as two teens brutally beat and battered her into a seizure last Monday.

Chrissy Lee Polis: It Was A Hate Crime, I Will Sue McDonald’s | The New Civil Rights Movement

I'm not sure that she has a chance in hell of winning anything. Someone called the police and as far as I know that was their only legal obligation.

I doubt seriously McDonald's employees are trained or required to break up fights.

He doesn't deserve a dime in compensation from McDonalds. He could take the women who beat him to court, but probably wouldn't get much.
 
I have a hard time feeling sorry for this man. Had he used the mens rest room he would have been ok. This incident is being portrayed as two Woman targeting a trans gender man for being different. I believe it was two Woman teaching a creepy man a lesson. How did they discover that he was a man ? Was he pissing standing up ? Did they see his wang-doodle ? If so, will Mr. Polis face charges for indecent exposure ? This case is just like the two gay men who raped that kid a few years back, They were not prosecuted under hate crimes and the story was buried because of Matthew Shepperd. Get the girls for assault and pit them on probation and send them to anger management, but dont destroy there lives for beating up a man who was in the ladies room.
 
Chrissy Lee Polis, the transgender woman brutally beaten by two teens in a Baltimore, Maryland area McDonald’s one week ago, says the attack was definitely a hate crime, and adds she will sue McDonald’s and the McDonald’s employees who stood by, according to reports. The employees were momentarily filmed watching and laughing in a three-minute video, as two teens brutally beat and battered her into a seizure last Monday.

Chrissy Lee Polis: It Was A Hate Crime, I Will Sue McDonald’s | The New Civil Rights Movement

I'm not sure that she has a chance in hell of winning anything. Someone called the police and as far as I know that was their only legal obligation.

I doubt seriously McDonald's employees are trained or required to break up fights.

Wasn't it kids that beat her? Are Transvestites beneath our concern? They are human beings too.

And some of those people that work at McDonalds are huge. They must weigh a good deuce and a half. They wouldn't have much problem breaking it up. Heck, just yelling at those little brats telling them to stop would be enough if you do it right.
 
The cops were called. And I don't see how you can claim that the assault was foreseeable to the owner.

An assault happening in your establish is foreseeable!


LOLWUT?

Let's say you come to my house and just out of the blue my neighbor punches you in the mouth. Are you saying I should have foreseen that and prevented it?

It's foreseeable. See the other elements the prevention still to be reasonable!
 
I used this incident to shut down the liberal talk show host I was talking to about gun conrol this morning.

I said "I carry a gun with me everywhere I go and at all times"
He said "you ever have to use it?"
I said "no thank god"
He said "Well isn't it kind of excessive to always carry a concealed pistol when we have police and you never needed it/"
I said "Ask that transvestite that got beat up in burger king if carrying a concealed weapon would be a good or bad idea. You never know when some crazy person is going to go crazy and pick you or someone near you as their target"
He said "Ok thats a decent point"

:D
 
I used this incident to shut down the liberal talk show host I was talking to about gun conrol this morning.

I said "I carry a gun with me everywhere I go and at all times"
He said "you ever have to use it?"
I said "no thank god"
He said "Well isn't it kind of excessive to always carry a concealed pistol when we have police and you never needed it/"
I said "Ask that transvestite that got beat up in burger king if carrying a concealed weapon would be a good or bad idea. You never know when some crazy person is going to go crazy and pick you or someone near you as their target"
He said "Ok thats a decent point"

:D
It's still pretty paranoid behavior, though.
 
I used this incident to shut down the liberal talk show host I was talking to about gun conrol this morning.

I said "I carry a gun with me everywhere I go and at all times"
He said "you ever have to use it?"
I said "no thank god"
He said "Well isn't it kind of excessive to always carry a concealed pistol when we have police and you never needed it/"
I said "Ask that transvestite that got beat up in burger king if carrying a concealed weapon would be a good or bad idea. You never know when some crazy person is going to go crazy and pick you or someone near you as their target"
He said "Ok thats a decent point"

:D
It's still pretty paranoid behavior, though.

Paranoid how?

More like prepared behavior IMO. Have you ever been robbed at knifepoint? I have.
 
Chrissy Lee Polis, the transgender woman brutally beaten by two teens in a Baltimore, Maryland area McDonald’s one week ago, says the attack was definitely a hate crime, and adds she will sue McDonald’s and the McDonald’s employees who stood by, according to reports. The employees were momentarily filmed watching and laughing in a three-minute video, as two teens brutally beat and battered her into a seizure last Monday.

Chrissy Lee Polis: It Was A Hate Crime, I Will Sue McDonald’s | The New Civil Rights Movement

I'm not sure that she has a chance in hell of winning anything. Someone called the police and as far as I know that was their only legal obligation.

I doubt seriously McDonald's employees are trained or required to break up fights.

Start to see warning signs in McDonlds

Eat at your own risk not only the food but you may be shot or kick your ass kicked.

McDonalds placed warning on their coffe cups that the content maybe hot, and I guess they will have to do this also.
 
I used this incident to shut down the liberal talk show host I was talking to about gun conrol this morning.

I said "I carry a gun with me everywhere I go and at all times"
He said "you ever have to use it?"
I said "no thank god"
He said "Well isn't it kind of excessive to always carry a concealed pistol when we have police and you never needed it/"
I said "Ask that transvestite that got beat up in burger king if carrying a concealed weapon would be a good or bad idea. You never know when some crazy person is going to go crazy and pick you or someone near you as their target"
He said "Ok thats a decent point"

:D
It's still pretty paranoid behavior, though.

When every second counts, the police are just minutes away
gunwoman.jpg

 
I used this incident to shut down the liberal talk show host I was talking to about gun conrol this morning.

I said "I carry a gun with me everywhere I go and at all times"
He said "you ever have to use it?"
I said "no thank god"
He said "Well isn't it kind of excessive to always carry a concealed pistol when we have police and you never needed it/"
I said "Ask that transvestite that got beat up in burger king if carrying a concealed weapon would be a good or bad idea. You never know when some crazy person is going to go crazy and pick you or someone near you as their target"
He said "Ok thats a decent point"

:D
It's still pretty paranoid behavior, though.

Paranoid how?

More like prepared behavior IMO. Have you ever been robbed at knifepoint? I have.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsKzdKNAmo]YouTube - Criminals For Gun Control 1 Home Invasion[/ame]
 
I used this incident to shut down the liberal talk show host I was talking to about gun conrol this morning.

I said "I carry a gun with me everywhere I go and at all times"
He said "you ever have to use it?"
I said "no thank god"
He said "Well isn't it kind of excessive to always carry a concealed pistol when we have police and you never needed it/"
I said "Ask that transvestite that got beat up in burger king if carrying a concealed weapon would be a good or bad idea. You never know when some crazy person is going to go crazy and pick you or someone near you as their target"
He said "Ok thats a decent point"

:D


I carry as well, but this argument is weak. 999,999,999,999 out of of 1 trillion people will NEVER have a need to have a weapon. NEVER.
 
I used this incident to shut down the liberal talk show host I was talking to about gun conrol this morning.

I said "I carry a gun with me everywhere I go and at all times"
He said "you ever have to use it?"
I said "no thank god"
He said "Well isn't it kind of excessive to always carry a concealed pistol when we have police and you never needed it/"
I said "Ask that transvestite that got beat up in burger king if carrying a concealed weapon would be a good or bad idea. You never know when some crazy person is going to go crazy and pick you or someone near you as their target"
He said "Ok thats a decent point"

:D


I carry as well, but this argument is weak. 999,999,999,999 out of of 1 trillion people will NEVER have a need to have a weapon. NEVER.
some 17% of americans are mugged

Some 15% will face sexual assault

None of them have/had a need for a weapon to defend themselves?
 
I'm not sure that she has a chance in hell of winning anything. Someone called the police and as far as I know that was their only legal obligation.

I doubt seriously McDonald's employees are trained or required to break up fights.

Hummmmmmm

So a business invites customers into their premises but are nor responsible for their safety?

Chrissy is primarily responsible for protecting her life and should have been packing heat.

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I used this incident to shut down the liberal talk show host I was talking to about gun conrol this morning.

I said "I carry a gun with me everywhere I go and at all times"
He said "you ever have to use it?"
I said "no thank god"
He said "Well isn't it kind of excessive to always carry a concealed pistol when we have police and you never needed it/"
I said "Ask that transvestite that got beat up in burger king if carrying a concealed weapon would be a good or bad idea. You never know when some crazy person is going to go crazy and pick you or someone near you as their target"
He said "Ok thats a decent point"

:D


I carry as well, but this argument is weak. 999,999,999,999 out of of 1 trillion people will NEVER have a need to have a weapon. NEVER.
some 17% of americans are mugged

Some 15% will face sexual assault

None of them have/had a need for a weapon to defend themselves?

I SERIOUSLY doubt those stats. And of those who are mugged or sexually assaulted, how many would be helped by having a weapon and how many would be further harmed if they had a weapon?
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFgivips_zE&feature=fvwrel]YouTube - Clerk Shoots Robbery Suspect During Hold-up[/ame]
 
Why? That would mean every business that serves the public would be required to have armed guards and that just isn't so. As far as I know, only banks do and that isn't to protect their customers lives as much as it is to protect the money.

Just an FYI...

The guards at banks...many of them NOT armed...are trained to protect the public...not the money. If the customers are not harassed, they are trained to allow the theives to leave without incident.

Guards in bank transfer trucks are trianed to protect the lives of their partners and themselves and thus why they carry weapons. They, too, are trained to "let them flee" if the heist is successful.

In troubled Locations where Security is needed, it should be provided.

Said the USMB Mod.

:cool:
 

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