Chris Hayes issues genuine apology

[FJO]

Well, that settles it. Getting 4000+ Americans killed for no good reason whatsoever is the moral equivalent of cheating on your wife.

what's the military/ Amercians count of dead under Obama? since you all are so into using them for your political agenda

My political agenda opposed Obama putting more troops into Afghanistan. He's getting us out of Iraq. He's now trying to get us out of Afghanistan.

Romney opposed us even getting out of Iraq. Romney will have us at war in the ME again if he's elected.

If "GETTING OUT" is such an important priority with you, do you condemn Presidents Kennedy, Nixon, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, BushI, Clinton, BushII and Obama for NOT getting out of Germany, Japan and Korea, just to name a few countries as well as presidents?

Boy, that's a lot of blame on a lot of presidents on either party!

So, if Romney gets elected and keeps troops in Iraq or Afganistan, will you forgive him like you forgive all the others before him? Or how about Obama?

 

[mudwhistle]

Yeah..Lincoln was a Liberal..

He was a Lawyer..believed in abolishing slavery..and that the Federal Government trumped the conservative version of goverment, the Confederacy.

Jeebus..you don't know your shit..at all.

Lincoln was no conservative.

I support Abolition as well.

Being a lawyer doesn't make you a liberal.

He was a Republican.


This is a ridiculous argument. You're trying to pick and choose which leaders dubbing them liberals just because you like them, not because of their ideologies.

"Washington was conservative cuz he was a rich white guy who owned slaves."

I'm "dubbing" him a Liberal..because he was..

Conservatives are for keeping the status quo. They are for a heterogeneous society. They are for theocracy and tribalism. They believe that leadership should be a mandate from a deity, not from a popular election. They believe in the rule of force..and not the rule of law.

Republicans..in that day..were the Liberal part of the Whig party.

Man..you don't know history at all..do you.

What Lincoln did..in bringing us to the civil war..was pretty radical. And not at all conservative.

Oh yeah..Washington was no conservative either.

I know it better than you. Lincoln was showing his conservative roots when he resisted the South's attempts to sever the union. That is a conservative act. The Civil War was a fight between states rights and federal control. A fight over slavery. Agricultural vs industrial.

Also, what was liberal those days would be considered conservative today.

The problem with you is your education was based on rationalizations, not reality. Some lib proff taught you a whole lotta garbage that was untrue.

 

[mudwhistle]

John Kerry didn't lie about shit. It was the swiftboat assholes that lied. And it was the awful RNC that disgraceful mocked his valor and war wounds.

And I could give two shits that Obama used some literary license in his books. As President, he's been almost as honest as Jimmy Carter, who didn't make backroom deals with a terrorist nation to hold hostages to after an American election..like that treasonous bastard Ronald Reagan. The fucker that gave us Osama Bin Laden.

"The fucker" - as you so disrespectfully refer to President Reagan - was strong enough to smash, along with the other two great heroes of the 20th century, Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II, the bloodiest terror state in the history of mankind, the Soviet Union.

He - Ronald Reagan - won 49 of 50 States in 1984. What an "amiable dunce", that "fucker" and "treasoneous bastard" he was!!!

I am sure when Obama dies not very many outside of his immediate family will gather as people gathered for Ronald Reagan. Thousands in the National Mall, myself included, after traveling 1,200 miles, among them.

By the time Obama dies- and I hope it will be by natural causes in the far future - it will be plain to see even by his most ardent followers, with the possible exception of African Americans, that he was nothing but a lying, promise-breaking blip on the political landscape.

When you disrespect Ronald Reagan, you are flipping your finger into the faces of decent Americans.

The fucker..committed Treason. He also broke the law.

He should have been impeached and removed from office.

That you support such outrageous lawlessness is telling.

Decent..

I have to call Bull Shit.

If the Dem controlled Congress had a legal leg to stand on they would have pressed for impeachment. Truth is, they found out Reagan was fighting communist expansion in Central America and Congress voted to prevent it.

Who was the real traitors, Reagan or the communists simpathizers in congress?

 

[Truthmatters]

Chris Hayes Apologizes For Saying He Feels 'Uncomfortable' Calling Killed Soldiers 'Heroes' (VIDEO)

The rw war lovers just love to pile on a comment like Hayes made because they're the only ones who are allowed to state their opinions these days.

No one dares to expect or demand an apology from Bush or Cheney or Rove or any of the other liars who got us into that illegal mess. If we didn't know better, you'd think it was Hayes who DIRECTLY caused the deaths of more than 4000 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, not to mention the TRILLIONS of DOLLARS that the rw now blames President Obama for spending.

The incredibly hypocritical right wingers will rag on this for weeks.

Damn brainless maroons. Show them something shiny and they're off and running.

BTW, most Iraqi vets are victims of the same lies the rest of us believed. And by virtue of having left their lives behind in order to serve a false cause, they are indeed heroes. Nonetheless, Hayes was quite correct.

why are you so angry about this? He screwed up and had the decency to sack up and admit he screwed up.

Isn't this what you guys always want? Someone to apologize?

he had to appologise because the con world wanted to make hey out of a comment that did not say what the cons pretended it said.

Just like the rev right issue.


Like the Op said you see something shiney and you cant resist.

Do you know what the name Rube means?

It comes from an old ball player named Rube Wadel.

He was a great player but had the IQ of a child.

The opposing team would hold up puppies and shiney objects in the dugout while he was at bat or playing his position.


The TERM Rube came from his inability to understand the big world.

He was just too simple.


That is what the right wing outrage usually looks like.

Your Rubes

 

[Sallow]

I support Abolition as well.

Being a lawyer doesn't make you a liberal.

He was a Republican.


This is a ridiculous argument. You're trying to pick and choose which leaders dubbing them liberals just because you like them, not because of their ideologies.

"Washington was conservative cuz he was a rich white guy who owned slaves."

I'm "dubbing" him a Liberal..because he was..

Conservatives are for keeping the status quo. They are for a heterogeneous society. They are for theocracy and tribalism. They believe that leadership should be a mandate from a deity, not from a popular election. They believe in the rule of force..and not the rule of law.

Republicans..in that day..were the Liberal part of the Whig party.

Man..you don't know history at all..do you.

What Lincoln did..in bringing us to the civil war..was pretty radical. And not at all conservative.

Oh yeah..Washington was no conservative either.

I know it better than you. Lincoln was showing his conservative roots when he resisted the South's attempts to sever the union. That is a conservative act. The Civil War was a fight between states rights and federal control. A fight over slavery. Agricultural vs industrial.

Also, what was liberal those days would be considered conservative today.

The problem with you is your education was based on rationalizations, not reality. Some lib proff taught you a whole lotta garbage that was untrue.

Oh conservatives are for industry over agriculture? That's new.

Conservatives have always been about the heartland over the urban areas.

That's never really changed.

As was the conservative idea that states rights..trump the central government. This wasn't the first attempt by US conservatives to split the nation. They tried under Washington as well.

The problem with your education was that it was gleaned in a church.

Yeah..the earth didn't start 5000 years ago either, chief.

 

[Truthmatters]

Rube Waddell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Waddell was unpredictable, and had a habit of leaving the dugout in the middle of games to follow passing fire trucks to fires. He performed as an alligator wrestler in the offseason. He was easily distracted by opposing team fans who used to hold up puppies and shiny objects, which seemed to put Waddell in a trance on the mound. An alcoholic for much of his adult life, Waddell reportedly spent the entirety of his first signing bonus on a drinking binge (Sporting News called him "the sousepaw"). Waddell's eccentric behavior led to constant battles with his managers and scuffles with bad-tempered teammates, and complaints from his teammates forced his trade from Philadelphia to St. Louis in early 1908 despite his importance to the team and his continued success. Recent commentators (such as Bill James) have suggested that Waddell may have suffered from a developmental disability, mental retardation, autism, or attention deficit disorder (ADD). Essentially, none of these mental issues was either known of or properly diagnosed at the time. Though eccentric and childlike, Rube Waddell was not illiterate (as some sources have claimed). Ken Burns' baseball documentary claims Waddell lost track of how many women he'd married.

 

[Sallow]

"The fucker" - as you so disrespectfully refer to President Reagan - was strong enough to smash, along with the other two great heroes of the 20th century, Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II, the bloodiest terror state in the history of mankind, the Soviet Union.

He - Ronald Reagan - won 49 of 50 States in 1984. What an "amiable dunce", that "fucker" and "treasoneous bastard" he was!!!

I am sure when Obama dies not very many outside of his immediate family will gather as people gathered for Ronald Reagan. Thousands in the National Mall, myself included, after traveling 1,200 miles, among them.

By the time Obama dies- and I hope it will be by natural causes in the far future - it will be plain to see even by his most ardent followers, with the possible exception of African Americans, that he was nothing but a lying, promise-breaking blip on the political landscape.

When you disrespect Ronald Reagan, you are flipping your finger into the faces of decent Americans.

The fucker..committed Treason. He also broke the law.

He should have been impeached and removed from office.

That you support such outrageous lawlessness is telling.

Decent..

I have to call Bull Shit.

If the Dem controlled Congress had a legal leg to stand on they would have pressed for impeachment. Truth is, they found out Reagan was fighting communist expansion in Central America and Congress voted to prevent it.

Who was the real traitors, Reagan or the communists simpathizers in congress?

Reagan broke the law. Simple as that.

Democrats were loath to impeach him because he was popular..and unlike Conservatives, who hate the government and want to break it..they wanted to keep the peace.

It was the absolute wrong thing to do.

And Reagan's terrorist buddies in Central America RAPED AND KILLED American nuns.

 

[Truthmatters]

just like so many Rubes you are

 

[occupied]

Chris Hayes Apologizes For Saying He Feels 'Uncomfortable' Calling Killed Soldiers 'Heroes' (VIDEO)

The rw war lovers just love to pile on a comment like Hayes made because they're the only ones who are allowed to state their opinions these days.

No one dares to expect or demand an apology from Bush or Cheney or Rove or any of the other liars who got us into that illegal mess. If we didn't know better, you'd think it was Hayes who DIRECTLY caused the deaths of more than 4000 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, not to mention the TRILLIONS of DOLLARS that the rw now blames President Obama for spending.

The incredibly hypocritical right wingers will rag on this for weeks.

Damn brainless maroons. Show them something shiny and they're off and running.

BTW, most Iraqi vets are victims of the same lies the rest of us believed. And by virtue of having left their lives behind in order to serve a false cause, they are indeed heroes. Nonetheless, Hayes was quite correct.

why are you so angry about this? He screwed up and had the decency to sack up and admit he screwed up.

Isn't this what you guys always want? Someone to apologize?

he had to appologise because the con world wanted to make hey out of a comment that did not say what the cons pretended it said.

Just like the rev right issue.


Like the Op said you see something shiney and you cant resist.

Do you know what the name Rube means?

It comes from an old ball player named Rube Wadel.

He was a great player but had the IQ of a child.

The opposing team would hold up puppies and shiney objects in the dugout while he was at bat or playing his position.


The TERM Rube came from his inability to understand the big world.

He was just too simple.


That is what the right wing outrage usually looks like.

Your Rubes

I think he was right to criticize the practice of using our war dead as a patriotic symbol like the flag or the liberty bell, he could have approached the subject from a different angle and been just fine.

 

[Truthmatters]

Iran contra anyone?


Imgainge a presdent that cant get the American people interested in something he wants to do so instead he does it behind their backs in an illegal manner.


Then he plays old dottering man to avoid the consequences.

Yeah Reagan , ran up the debt and did illiegal things.

and they think hes a god

 

[Katzndogz]

Hayes is not at all sorry he has his opinion, he's just sorry that so many disagreed with it.

 

[Truthmatters]

why are you so angry about this? He screwed up and had the decency to sack up and admit he screwed up.

Isn't this what you guys always want? Someone to apologize?

he had to appologise because the con world wanted to make hey out of a comment that did not say what the cons pretended it said.

Just like the rev right issue.


Like the Op said you see something shiney and you cant resist.

Do you know what the name Rube means?

It comes from an old ball player named Rube Wadel.

He was a great player but had the IQ of a child.

The opposing team would hold up puppies and shiney objects in the dugout while he was at bat or playing his position.


The TERM Rube came from his inability to understand the big world.

He was just too simple.


That is what the right wing outrage usually looks like.

Your Rubes

I think he was right to criticize the practice of using our war dead as a patriotic symbol like the flag or the liberty bell, he could have approached the subject from a different angle and been just fine.

They dont understand the subilty of the discussion Chris was having.

that means he must be a bad man saying horrible things.

Just like Rev Wright.


The really sad part is many on the right do understand.

they are just doing a reagan by playing stupid to get what they want

 

[Truthmatters]

Hayes is not at all sorry he has his opinion, he's just sorry that so many disagreed with it.

yes my little Rube

 

[Truthmatters]

Sallow is dead on right

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Hayes is not at all sorry he has his opinion, he's just sorry that so many disagreed with it.

yes my little Rube

The password for today is...

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Patriotism and undue flag waving should be viewed with skepticism lest we become too Nationalistic like "Nazis" and scare liberals and the French..................

American exceptionalism is a myth as our many global atrocities have evidenced.......We are no better than European socialists, Marxist Totalitarians, and third world dictatorships........

We are part of the world community and should not be too Proud after all.................LOL

 

[Dick Tuck]

That's ridiculous.

Tell that to the Marines that stormed the dark sandy beaches of Iwo Jima.

What percent of all Marines that ever served were killed?

What percentage of our history were we at war?

Your argument doesn't hold water.

Just off the top of my head, about 85% of it.

Statistics of US War Veterans and casualties

 

[Katzndogz]

It is a major tenet of liberal belief that if no one ever fought back in a war the world would be a better place. The real sorrow is that Germany and Japan lost WWII. Our present problems come from our disappointing victory. Had Germany won, there would be no Israel, nor Jews to control business and Hollywood. There would be no war in the middle east because islam would have risen long before this. The issue of the master race would have been long ago settled. Japan would control Asia. Who knows, maybe Japan would have kept its men instead of losing them to liberal femininity.

Liberals will never get over "losing" WWII.

 

[mudwhistle]

I'm "dubbing" him a Liberal..because he was..

Conservatives are for keeping the status quo. They are for a heterogeneous society. They are for theocracy and tribalism. They believe that leadership should be a mandate from a deity, not from a popular election. They believe in the rule of force..and not the rule of law.

Republicans..in that day..were the Liberal part of the Whig party.

Man..you don't know history at all..do you.

What Lincoln did..in bringing us to the civil war..was pretty radical. And not at all conservative.

Oh yeah..Washington was no conservative either.

I know it better than you. Lincoln was showing his conservative roots when he resisted the South's attempts to sever the union. That is a conservative act. The Civil War was a fight between states rights and federal control. A fight over slavery. Agricultural vs industrial.

Also, what was liberal those days would be considered conservative today.

The problem with you is your education was based on rationalizations, not reality. Some lib proff taught you a whole lotta garbage that was untrue.

Oh conservatives are for industry over agriculture? That's new.

Conservatives have always been about the heartland over the urban areas.

That's never really changed.

As was the conservative idea that states rights..trump the central government. This wasn't the first attempt by US conservatives to split the nation. They tried under Washington as well.

The problem with your education was that it was gleaned in a church.

Yeah..the earth didn't start 5000 years ago either, chief.

I didn't say it did.

You seem to be confusing me with religious zealots. Not all Christians believe in the same things and not all cons believe in the same things. None of this is cut and dried, but one thing is sure, by today's standards Lincoln was not a liberal. However, many of those same folks that claim the South should have won are avid Democrats.

I know!!!!!!

Imagine my surprise.

When I moved here that fact hit me square in the face. They're too dumb and set in their ways to vote GOP.

 

[FJO]

John Kerry didn't lie about shit. It was the swiftboat assholes that lied. And it was the awful RNC that disgraceful mocked his valor and war wounds.

And I could give two shits that Obama used some literary license in his books. As President, he's been almost as honest as Jimmy Carter, who didn't make backroom deals with a terrorist nation to hold hostages to after an American election..like that treasonous bastard Ronald Reagan. The fucker that gave us Osama Bin Laden.

"The fucker" - as you so disrespectfully refer to President Reagan - was strong enough to smash, along with the other two great heroes of the 20th century, Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II, the bloodiest terror state in the history of mankind, the Soviet Union.

He - Ronald Reagan - won 49 of 50 States in 1984. What an "amiable dunce", that "fucker" and "treasoneous bastard" he was!!!

I am sure when Obama dies not very many outside of his immediate family will gather as people gathered for Ronald Reagan. Thousands in the National Mall, myself included, after traveling 1,200 miles, among them.

By the time Obama dies- and I hope it will be by natural causes in the far future - it will be plain to see even by his most ardent followers, with the possible exception of African Americans, that he was nothing but a lying, promise-breaking blip on the political landscape.

When you disrespect Ronald Reagan, you are flipping your finger into the faces of decent Americans.

The fucker..committed Treason. He also broke the law.

He should have been impeached and removed from office.

That you support such outrageous lawlessness is telling.

Decent..

So, go for it!

Just as there were posthumous awards for valor, in your world, at least, there must be awards, posthumously, for guys who, by your definition are outrageous, lawlessness, law-breaking traitors.

The punk who deserved impeaching got impeaching, but, sadly, not removal from office. But he never had the spine and integrity of Nixon to resign. After all, there were more goodies under the desk in the Oval Office, and who can resist a good blow job that your Lesbian wife would never be willing to give you?