Chip, chip, chip ..

[grunt11b]

WTF?

chipping away government control and power.

When did we become a COMMUNIST COUNTRY?

Do friggen people actually think that way???

You bet your ass they do. To them the Government OWNS US and and not, WE THE PEOPLE...


my gawd, that was one ignorant article and a little damn scary.

It's all the shoddy public education. They no longer teach true American history, the progressives teach there own version of history and we all sit here wondering what in the hell is wrong with kids these days and why they don't see that the direction that this country is going in is not what the founding fathers had intended.
You can take a history book from 1905 and compare it to one today and see how radical todays history and explanations of our history are compared to the true history of this country.
It's sickening.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

CHIP, CHIP, CHIP…..[/B]

The sound of the Reich slowly chipping away government control and power. Their plan, since Obama took office, is to destroy government. You see, if they get it so small and powerless it will become totally useless. And give more power to private industry and campaign support.

Governor Sandoval of Nevada has a plan to cut millions in education spending (public education) (in order to balance the budget)and give millions to voucher program to be used in private schools. To those parents who want to opt our of public schools, each child could get $2500 to $5100 a year to attend school of their choice.

Another subtle attack on public education, disadvantaged students and teachers and on a fast track to privatizing education. $100,000 in vouchers in Nevada.
Voucher program leaves children behind in schools that are already hurting with less to work with. Sandoval is taking from public education and giving to private education.

They will not stop at unions, healthcare, education and government. Then there will social security, Medicare, welfare, libraries, military, prisons, law enforcement, homeland security, fire department, teachers, county and state government, wholesale and retail, post office, state liquor stores, marijuana sales, etc. This is just the beginning of private take over of our lives. A dictatorship by a few.

Privatization is a take over of our lives, more control then the present government.

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There are plenty of totally disfunctional Nanny-States out there for you.... feel free to pick one and go there.

Meanwhile, we'll keep up the fight to keep this country from being added to the list.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The more private it is, and the less government is involved, the better off this country will be.

That is so wrong and so shallow-minded simplistic, I don't even know where to begin...

Please try... this oughtta be good.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Let me help you out on it then, name one thing that Government has gotten it's fingers into or has created that is not now in bad debt and about to go bankrupt.

The government is elected by us and is our voice - our representation and our protection against the greed and exploitation of the private sector. More and more voice has been given to corporations and that is downright SHAMEFUL... More and more corporations are quietly morphing into monopolies - look at our ridiculous industrialized food system - we actually subsidize corporations to make us sick and obese - and more and more of our voice is being taken away - sure, make it ILLEGAL for employees to form a collective to illicit change - they're not already getting not just the short end, but the poison splinter in this "relationship". EVERY piece of legislation is heavily skewed toward corporate interests, the MIC and the already uber wealthy. Why do you morons continue to accept the brainwashing and doing the duty of the plutocracy? Why?

 

[ABikerSailor]

WTF?

chipping away government control and power.

When did we become a COMMUNIST COUNTRY?

Do friggen people actually think that way???

You bet your ass they do. To them the Government OWNS US and and not, WE THE PEOPLE...


my gawd, that was one ignorant article and a little damn scary.

It's all the shoddy public education. They no longer teach true American history, the progressives teach there own version of history and we all sit here wondering what in the hell is wrong with kids these days and why they don't see that the direction that this country is going in is not what the founding fathers had intended.
You can take a history book from 1905 and compare it to one today and see how radical todays history and explanations of our history are compared to the true history of this country.
It's sickening.

Public education doesn't teach "true American history" because of the Texas schoolboards and their revision of it. Oh yeah....it was the right wing tht did it.......

Country music is an important modern cultural movement; hip-hop isn't. Thomas Jefferson deserves to be erased from a list of "great Americans", but Ronald Reagan doesn't. And we should re-evaluate Senator Joe McCarthy: he was almost certainly a national hero.

If you think that sounds like a quirky rewriting of American history with a right-wing twist, then you're not alone. But if the state of Texas gets its way, it'll be what teachers across the rest of the nation are required to tell their students.

In a move that has sparked controversy from coast to coast, together with a slew of headlines about the "Texas schoolbook massacre", the Lone Star state has just narrowly approved a series of conservative-minded alterations to its social studies curriculum.

The school board's decrees range from the surreal to the faintly sinister. One dictates that the Republican former House speaker Newt Gingrich should be studied. Another says that the speeches of Jefferson Davis, the slave-owning president of the Confederacy, should be taught alongside those of Abraham Lincoln. And the National Rifle Association should be praised for upholding the Constitution.

'Texas schoolbook massacre' rewrites American history - Americas, World - The Independent

You really are a dim witted little retard, ain't ya?

 

[ABikerSailor]

The more private it is, and the less government is involved, the better off this country will be.

That is so wrong and so shallow-minded simplistic, I don't even know where to begin...

Please try... this oughtta be good.

The more it's privatized, the better it is? Fannie and Freddie anyone?

How about car companies? Thank government and regulations for that one in making our cars safer.

You like eating uncontaminated food? Thank the government for regulating the food industry and checking up on private businesses to make sure they're safe.

If you privatized all that, we'd end up with another BP Gulf disaster..........the bought off the mines bureau, bypassed many regulations (one of the reasons the blowout preventer valve failed, it wasn't working), as well as the problem with the battery being dead on the BOP valve.

Oh yeah........wanna talk about them only using 6 valves instead of the REQUIRED 21?

 

[washamericom]

if i had thought obama would destroy the government, i would surely have voted for the man.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

The more it's privatized, the better it is? Fannie and Freddie anyone?

How about car companies? Thank government and regulations for that one in making our cars safer.

You like eating uncontaminated food? Thank the government for regulating the food industry and checking up on private businesses to make sure they're safe.

If you privatized all that, we'd end up with another BP Gulf disaster..........the bought off the mines bureau, bypassed many regulations (one of the reasons the blowout preventer valve failed, it wasn't working), as well as the problem with the battery being dead on the BOP valve.

Oh yeah........wanna talk about them only using 6 valves instead of the REQUIRED 21?

They won't be happy until this country is nothing but one big Wal-Mart + parking lot.

 

[grunt11b]

Let me help you out on it then, name one thing that Government has gotten it's fingers into or has created that is not now in bad debt and about to go bankrupt.

The government is elected by us and is our voice - our representation and our protection against the greed and exploitation of the private sector. More and more voice has been given to corporations and that is downright SHAMEFUL... More and more corporations are quietly morphing into monopolies - look at our ridiculous industrialized food system - we actually subsidize corporations to make us sick and obese - and more and more of our voice is being taken away - sure, make it ILLEGAL for employees to form a collective to illicit change - they're not already getting not just the short end, but the poison splinter in this "relationship". EVERY piece of legislation is heavily skewed toward corporate interests, the MIC and the already uber wealthy. Why do you morons continue to accept the brainwashing and doing the duty of the plutocracy? Why?

No where in the Constitution does it provide the Government with the responsibility to play favorites with the market, regardless of how you voted. The congress has 18 enumerated powers, playing favorites in the economy is not one of them.
Here are those powers.
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The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imports and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; [Altered by Amendment XVI "Income tax".]

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

 

[grunt11b]

I would not call it brainwashing, I do however call it following the law as it is written in the Constitution of the United States. It's not open for anyones interpretation and means what it says, that does not mean you have to like it though, hence the amendment process is available to alter the laws in that case.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imports and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; [Altered by Amendment XVI "Income tax".]

That doesn't just appliy to corporations and the wealthy, dearie... at least not yet...

If the markets are destroying this nation (and they are), the government absolutely has the power to step in, as it should.

 

[grunt11b]

common Defense and general Welfare of the United States

Common defense is to raise an Army and Navy.
Promote the general Welfare does not mean give free stuff away to lazy bums, it means to promote the free market to allow citizens the opportunity to succeed, and not to hamper there efforts through disastrous regulations "Kinda like Obamas policies are doing right about now".

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

That is so wrong and so shallow-minded simplistic, I don't even know where to begin...

Please try... this oughtta be good.

The more it's privatized, the better it is? Fannie and Freddie anyone?

How about car companies? Thank government and regulations for that one in making our cars safer.

You like eating uncontaminated food? Thank the government for regulating the food industry and checking up on private businesses to make sure they're safe.

If you privatized all that, we'd end up with another BP Gulf disaster..........the bought off the mines bureau, bypassed many regulations (one of the reasons the blowout preventer valve failed, it wasn't working), as well as the problem with the battery being dead on the BOP valve.

Oh yeah........wanna talk about them only using 6 valves instead of the REQUIRED 21?

Yep... just about what I expected. Sorry Charlie, ranting about a mortgage crisis induced by government coercion in markets, or touting annual car deaths due to imbecilic CAFE standards and BP sure make me want to cry uncle and let the government run everything.

Oh, and hey.. how about that $14,000,000,000,000 debt? There's a record.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Sorry kids.. the Marxist revolution isn't going to happen.

Chavez and Castro would love to have you though... you could toil away in a rice field for pennies a day! YAY!!!!

 

[ABikerSailor]

Please try... this oughtta be good.

The more it's privatized, the better it is? Fannie and Freddie anyone?

How about car companies? Thank government and regulations for that one in making our cars safer.

You like eating uncontaminated food? Thank the government for regulating the food industry and checking up on private businesses to make sure they're safe.

If you privatized all that, we'd end up with another BP Gulf disaster..........the bought off the mines bureau, bypassed many regulations (one of the reasons the blowout preventer valve failed, it wasn't working), as well as the problem with the battery being dead on the BOP valve.

Oh yeah........wanna talk about them only using 6 valves instead of the REQUIRED 21?

Yep... just about what I expected. Sorry Charlie, ranting about a mortgage crisis induced by government coercion in markets, or touting annual car deaths due to imbecilic CAFE standards and BP sure make me want to cry uncle and let the government run everything.

Oh, and hey.. how about that $14,000,000,000,000 debt? There's a record.

Yeah.......what about that debt? Most of it was incurred by the Bush Jr. tax cuts (which is why it was originally supposed to run for 10 years to see if it helped), and the remaining part was incurred by leaving the Iraq war off the budget books.

Yeah......let's talk about the debt.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Promote the general Welfare does not mean give free stuff away to lazy bums, it means to promote the free market to allow citizens the opportunity to succeed

Promote general welfare refers to the general well-being and stability of our country and citizens. It absolutely has nothing to do with promoting free markets, especially if that is endangering the economy of this country AND the whole world, which is exactly what fewer regulations on the banking industry did. Who said anything about giving anything away for free anyway? I guess you guys can't deviate from the talking points manual, can you.

 

[Oddball]

Promote the general Welfare does not mean give free stuff away to lazy bums, it means to promote the free market to allow citizens the opportunity to succeed

Promote general welfare refers to the general well-being and stability of our country and citizens. It absolutely has nothing to do with promoting free markets, especially if that is endangering the economy of this country AND the whole world, which is exactly what fewer regulations on the banking industry did...... I guess you guys can't deviate from the talking points manual, can you.

Oh, the irony!

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Promote the general Welfare does not mean give free stuff away to lazy bums, it means to promote the free market to allow citizens the opportunity to succeed

Promote general welfare refers to the general well-being and stability of our country and citizens. It absolutely has nothing to do with promoting free markets, especially if that is endangering the economy of this country AND the whole world, which is exactly what fewer regulations on the banking industry did. Who said anything about giving anything away for free anyway? I guess you guys can't deviate from the talking points manual, can you.

General welfare has NOTHING to do with our nanny state today. The founders would be hauling ass to jump on the next clipper outta here if they could spend five minutes here today. Hell, they'd probably think they were back under the royal crown.

 

[RDD_1210]

Promote the general Welfare does not mean give free stuff away to lazy bums, it means to promote the free market to allow citizens the opportunity to succeed

Promote general welfare refers to the general well-being and stability of our country and citizens. It absolutely has nothing to do with promoting free markets, especially if that is endangering the economy of this country AND the whole world, which is exactly what fewer regulations on the banking industry did. Who said anything about giving anything away for free anyway? I guess you guys can't deviate from the talking points manual, can you.

General welfare has NOTHING to do with our nanny state today. The founders would be hauling ass to jump on the next clipper outta here if they could spend five minutes here today. Hell, they'd probably think they were back under the royal crown.

So the founders intended for the "promote the General Welfare" to mean protect the ability of corporations to make a buck at any cost? LOL. Really??

 

[RDD_1210]

common Defense and general Welfare of the United States

Common defense is to raise an Army and Navy.
Promote the general Welfare does not mean give free stuff away to lazy bums, it means to promote the free market to allow citizens the opportunity to succeed, and not to hamper there efforts through disastrous regulations "Kinda like Obamas policies are doing right about now".

LOL, So the constitution was designed to protect business and not the people? Is that the angle you're going with here? Seriously?