China: Why are we pretending?

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    Why are we pretending China is a friend and empowering them with billions in trade when they are a totalitarian fascist nation which supports other totalitarian nations?
     
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    lol.

    Notice how no one can answer that question with total sincerity.

    It's because there is no good reason. There never could be.

    It's all BS folks. All of it. Bush sits there and says, "We are fighting them over there so that we don't have to fight them here", when he talks about Iraq.

    Meanwhile, he allows for a million illegals to cross our border every year. Drug smugglers, rapists, thiefs, and gang-members are all a part of those crossers. So whats his excuse for that one? Is he letting them all come here so that we don't have keep them in Mexico? lol.

    It's a joke. It's the "Controller's" chessboard folks. And the bigger countries are their chesspieces. When are the majority going to realize that? Things just need to change.
     
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    shhhhhhhhhh!!!!! This is a right-wing conservative board. Talk like that makes folks here panic.






    PS: Hey, I noticed we both have a negative rep. :dev3:
     
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    I guess you havent been here long enough to read threads or maybe you just can't read. Many of the things he's said has been said by conservatives on this board for about a year or 2 now. But im sure the openminded individual that you are wasn't jumping to conclusions about stereotypes. That'd be awful "mean-spirited" and "closedminded" of you.
     
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    Insein when I posted about the "majority" I was referring to the entire World. Not this board alone.
     
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    As for China, I think we can have a good relationship with China if we stop trying to dictate to them how to run their country. We have good trade relations with China and once they become mass consumers as capitalism spreads there, we could possibly exploit that to our benefit (if American companies are smart enough).

    The reason we are in places like Iraq and Afhanistan is because they have a lack of government and a lack of control. They make back door deals with direct enemies of our country and endanger our main energy resource (like it or not this country runs on oil for the time being).

    China is different. They arent some backwater 3rd world country. They have nukes. They have a well run army and they outnumber us like 8 to 1 in man power. That alone is the reason we don't fuck with China. In return China doesnt fuck with us because we do alot of business with them.

    What we need to do is stop worrying about their human rights violations and all this petty nonsense. It's their country and they will decide on their own how they will progress. Their people will decide either through revolution or slow capitalistic take over. We need to start making stuff that they can use, like food and textiles and basic products that we take for granted. China out produces us on so much basic stuff and we are their biggest customer. We need to start selling stuff back to them and take advantage of this relationship. Countries are far less likely to drop a nuke on another country if that country is buying trillions of dollars worth of stuff every year.
     
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    I was referring more to charleston's comment. Not yours. You reflect alot of the opinions of many conservatives on this board. We are certainly not happy with the border, especially the number of criminals coming from Mexico. Plus we are extremely disatisfied with the lack of concern from Bush. Only recently has he thought that his amnesty idea was "not so good for the time" mainly because of the poll numbers. Selling out to illegals is not what people agree with in this country.
     
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    I agree that the Chinese people need to overthrow their own Government through a Revolution or another.

    However, we should not be trading with China at the moment period. If we are going to trade with China, and allow them to continue doing what they do, then therefore we should reinstate the Nazis and trade with them as well.

    Or hell, while we're at it, let's put Saddam Hussein back in power in Iraq and start trading oil with him again. Never mind his "petty Human rights violations", hey Insein?
     
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    Remind me never to vote for you if you ever run for office.
     
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    I disagree. Nazi's were a problem because they attacked our allies. China (so far) hasnt attacked any of our allies. They are a thorn in our side when it comes to the UN (another topic) but they have left Japan, South Korea and most of Asia alone and for the most part have left Taiwan alone. Nazi Germany was considered not America's problem until they started invading Poland, France and the rest of Europe as well as attacking Brittain. Even then it took a Japanese attack to get us into battle.

    We can continue doing business with China on our terms so long as they remain "friendly" (relative term) to us and our allies.
     

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