China Plans Extension of Railroad to India Through Tibet

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A cause of serious concern for India. These railways can be used to transport troops and weapons to Indian border.

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BEIJING — China plans to extend by 2020 a railroad on the high trans-Himalayan plateau of Tibet to the borders of India, Bhutan and Nepal, according to a report in People’s Daily, the official mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party.

The extension would lengthen a 157-mile rail route that is expected to open next month from Lhasa, the Tibetan capital, to Shigatse, the traditional seat of the Panchen Lama, a revered spiritual leader. In 2006, China opened the first railway to Tibet, linking Lhasa to China via the province of Qinghai.

The planned lengthening was criticized by Tibet advocates who said it would bring too many ethnic Han migrants to Lhasa and other Tibetan areas. The Wednesday report in People’s Daily cited Yang Yulin, deputy head of the railways administration in Tibet, saying that two additional rail lines would be added from Shigatse — one to Yadong, a point near the Indian and Bhutan borders, and one to Jilong, an area near the border with Nepal.

China and India have a long-running dispute over their Himalayan border. Two areas are in contention: one in the Aksai Chin area of China, which abuts the Ladakh region of India, in the western Himalayas; and the other in the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, in the east. Of the two, the dispute over Arunachal Pradesh is more contentious.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/26/w...-of-railroad-to-india-through-tibet.html?_r=0
 
Interesting. I wonder if the Indians will take any action to try and prevent this.
 
This development warrants a serious rethink on the part of India. I know terrain is a very difficult from Indian side of the border but India will have to figure out a way to build a lot more roads and airfields to move men and material to the border.
 
The railway into Tibet sure as hell hasn't done a lot of good for the Tibetan people. Of course it wasn't intended to...
 
Terrain from Indian side is pretty tough. So it will be very hard for India to match the roads and infrastructure from Chinese side into Tibet. India will have to increase its airlift capacity big time. In addition, India will have to put some asymmetric pressure on China through naval assets in East China and South China sea.
 
This is a very detailed report on the border between India and Chinese occupied Tibet.

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For the Indian military, this is a time of some fairly fundamental changes.

After decades of pursuing Pakistan-centric war planning, the Indian Army and the Indian Air Force are recalibrating their sights towards the hitherto neglected northern frontiers with China, giving a hard push to improving its war-fighting capabilities against its more powerful neighbor and at the same time, increasing on-the-ground interaction with the People’s Liberation Army (PLA).

This two-track policy, outcome of the experience of the past five years, is aimed at preventing any unnecessary flare ups along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), as the contested border between the two countries is known.

In July 2014, this writer has had the opportunity to undertake a rare tour of the border areas in Ladakh, a high mountainous desert that abuts the Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR). This remote region, rendered inaccessible by road for seven months a year because the passes leading to it are snow bound, is buzzing with an unprecedented military buildup. Consider this:

- A new Air Force Station to base fighter jets is coming up just 25 km from the Line of Actual Control

- For the first time since India’s independence in 1947, a full-fledged armored brigade of T-72 tanks will now be based in Ladakh.

- One more infantry brigade (3000 plus troops) is now moving closer to a crucial area where Chinese troops had intruded and stayed put for over three weeks in 2013.

- Work has been accelerated on at least 13 strategically important road projects in this region.

But Ladakh is not alone in getting the attention of military planners. Across the 4,000-plus km of Himalayan frontier that stretches from Ladakh in the northwest to Arunachal Pradesh in the east, India is aggressively pushing for the development of its border areas. In Sikkim and in Arunachal Pradesh – like Ladakh – more troops have been pumped in, equipped with armored regiments and artillery support, more fighter aircraft like the Su-30 are based closer to the contentious borders, and more roads are being built right up to the border, following the reversal of an earlier policy of not developing the border areas.

In effect, India is playing catch up with China. But it will take almost a decade for India to come anywhere near the infrastructure that the Chinese have built in TAR. Since the 1990s, China has built a network of roads, airports and railway in the sparsely populated TAR which gives the PLA a distinct advantage when it comes to mobilizing its forces if needed in double quick time. The Qinghai-Tibet Railway that connects Lhasa to mainland China is set to come closer to the Indian border at Xigatse (near Sikkim) at the end of August. By 2020, a rail link to Nepal’s capital Kathmandu is also planned. According to an Indian assessment, there are 15 airfields in the TAR, 12 of them meant exclusively for military purposes. The Indian military on the other hand, is still dependent on old airstrips and a couple of airfields built in the 1960s.

Aware of these shortcomings, Indian policymakers have decided to build military infrastructure but also to simultaneously engage the PLA more frequently across the border. Earlier this year, New Delhi and Beijing earmarked four locations along their contested border in Ladakh for holding emergency meetings to quickly resolve possible standoffs.

The locations, mostly in areas that witness frequent face-offs, were finalized when a Chinese PLA delegation led by one of its most senior military leaders, the deputy chief of general staff (operations) Lieutenant General Qi Jianguo, held day-long talks with an Indian Army team led by then vice Chief of Army Staff, Lieutenant General Dalbir Singh. Singh has since been elevated to the post of India’s Army Chief.

In addition to the four flag meeting points, the two countries have also decided to open two more locations for holding scheduled annual meetings between senior field officers. To date these annual conferences, known as Border Personnel Meetings, have taken place at Bumla in Arunachal Pradesh, Nathula in Sikkim, and Chushul in Ladakh. From now on, troops across the long LAC will have two more venues – Kibithoo in Eastern Arunachal Pradesh and Mana Pass in Uttarakhand – to meet at least four times a year, on the occasion of each others’ national days. During the talks in Delhi the two sides also decided to establish a hotline between the Indian Army’s Director General of Military Operations and an equivalent officer in the PLA HQ in Beijing. All of these decisions are part of the Confidence Building Measures (CBMs) that New Delhi and Beijing have decided to pursue after the signing of the Border Defense Cooperation Agreement signed by the two countries in October 2013.

India’s aggressive push along the border seems to have raised curiosity if not alarm in Beijing, at least sufficient for top-ranking Chinese generals and party officials to step up the frequency of their visits to cantonments bordering Ladakh and Sikkim.

Ananth Krishnan, The Hindu’s Beijing correspondent, reported that a top ranking general of the PLA carried out a rare inspection visit to the disputed western section of the border with India, including stops to inspect troops at two sites that have been at the center of recent differences over incursion incidents — near the Karakoram Pass and the contested Pangong Tso lake. General Xu Qiliang, who is one of two vice-chairmen of the Central Military Commission headed by President Xi Jinping – the highest-ranking position in the Chinese military – made the visit last month to inspect frontier troops in Xinjiang and Tibet, including a stop in the Aksai Chin region claimed by India.

Other newspaper reports in China have indicated that a senior Communist Party of China official spent unusually long time in Western Tibet in areas bordering Ladakh and Sikkim. They reported that Deng Xiaogang, Deputy Party Secretary of the Tibetan Autonomous Region, responsible for the law and order, security and police, took considerable time “to inspect the border security and the People’s Liberation Army bases.”

On June 20 for instance, an article in The Tibet Daily notes that “Deng Xiaogang inspected Rutok, the border county.” Rudok is located near Pangong Tso stretching between India and China. It is where Chinese “water” incursions often occur. Addressing the border guards, Deng Xiaogang stressed: “Tibet is very special strategic location; it is an important barrier for the national security; development and stability in these border areas is an important part of the region’s overall situation.”

But the Chinese need not worry for at least another decade. Much remains to be done in Ladakh, Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh. Building roads in the high altitude areas and equipping a highly capable Mountain Strike Corps – India has decided to raise a 30,000-strong specialized offensive force for the mountains – will take some doing. Until then, New Delhi is likely to follow a dictum China’s strongman of the 1970s, Deng Xiaoping prescribed for his own country: “Hide your strength, bide your time.”

India-China Border Engagement | The Diplomat
 
India should just let China have it's way because the multiculturalism that China brings will be really good for India. Isn't that the line that you usually favor?
 
India should just let China have it's way because the multiculturalism that China brings will be really good for India. Isn't that the line that you usually favor?

What are you four or something? China is a hegemon. I have never favored hegemony. China seems to be on your side on the issue of genocide. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for openly advocating crimes against humanity. Get a life. Come back. Then, we will talk.
 
China inaugurated new rail link going through Tibet all the way to Indian border touching Indian state of Sikkim.

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BEIJING: China on Friday inaugurated its second railway line in Tibet, built at a cost of $2.16 billion, close to Indian border in Sikkim, enhancing mobility of its military in the remote and strategic Himalayan region.

The 253-km railway line links Tibet's provincial capital Lhasa with Xigaze, the second-largest city in Tibet and also the traditional seat of the pro-Beijing Panchen Lama — stated to be second important Monk in Tibetan hierarchy.

The new line near the Indian border in Sikkim is also close to China's border with Nepal and Bhutan.

It reduces the travel time between Lhasa and Xigaze from the current four hours by highway to around two hours, state-run Xinhua news agency reported.

It is the second railway line in Tibet and an extension of the Qinghai-Tibet railway, the world's highest rail link connecting China's mainland with Tibet.

Construction of the railway line started in 2010 with an investment of 13.28 billion yuan ($2.16 billion).

In addition to this, China last month unveiled plans to construct a new crucial railway line in Tibet close to Arunachal Pradesh, which Chinese analysts say could act as a "bargaining chip" during the border talks with India.

The construction of another railway line linking Lhasa to Nyingchi in the east is also expected to start soon, recent official media report said.

Nyingchi is located right close to Arunachal, the nearest area to the border. China claims Arunachal as part of Tibet.

The railway expansion will connect, Nepal, Bhutan and India by 2020, the report said.

The growing Chinese railway network in Tibet is likely to leverage Beijing's claim over the disputed border region, experts claim.

It would also help Chinese military strategically by reducing the travel time to the remote southern Tibetan region, they add.

The construction of a railway connecting Xigaze with Gyirong county, close to Nepal, will be constructed under the five year plan ending 2020, an official recently said.

Gyirong county has a checkpoint connecting Nepal and Yatung county, close to Indian border near Sikkim and Bhutan, a trade centre bordering India and Bhutan.

China inaugurates new rail link in Tibet, close to Indian border in Sikkim - The Times of India
 
Chinese tearin' up Tibetan Buddhist academy...
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China demolishes buildings at Tibetan Buddhist academy Larung Gar
July 23, 2016 -- China has reportedly begun demolishing buildings at Larung Gar, one of the largest Buddhist academies in Tibet.
Free Tibet shared photos and video showing wood and stone scattered about from parts of the Larung Gar monastery which were demolished as part of an effort to reduce population in the area. According to a post on their website, Free Tibet said a Chinese work team arrived at the monastery alongside officials, police and members of the armed forces dressed in plain clothes at around 8 a.m. on Wednesday. "They brought bulldozers and other demolition equipment. Upon arriving, they began to pull down residences belonging to the monastery," the post stated.

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Chinese authorities have placed an order stating that Larung Gar's population must be reduced from 10,000 to no more than 3,500 nuns and 1,500 monks by October. The BBC reports that authorities have not made a formal comment on the demolition, Free Tibet Director Eleanor Byrne-Rosengren argued that overcrowding is not the real issue. "The demolition at Larung Gar is clearly nothing to do with overcrowding - it is just another tactic in China's attempt to subvert the influence of Buddhism in Tibet," she said.

A student at Larung Gar also questioned the practice in an online post. "If its only option to solve the over population is destroying the houses then why is the same policy not implemented in the Chinese cities and towns where population is overcrowded?" he wrote. "Where is the equality, rule by law, public welfare, religious freedom and equal rights of all nationalities (they used to say) if you crush down the houses of innocent religious practitioners who are living simple lives."

China demolishes buildings at Tibetan Buddhist academy Larung Gar

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July 22, 2016 - Officials in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam’s financial hub in the south, are discussing plans to impose heavy fines on Chinese tourists who “disrespect Vietnam’s culture and history” and are issuing Mandarin-language dos and don'ts targeting their northern neighbors.
The move comes after footage surfaced online of Chinese travelers harassing a banana hawker in Da Nang, a South China Sea coastal retreat that's popular among Chinese visitors. The clip only fueled nationalistic sentiments, which have been surging since The Hague-based Permanent Court of Arbitration ruled against Beijing’s territorial claims in the disputed maritime region, to which Hanoi is a claimant. Talking to VOA’s Vietnamese service, Mai Chi, a Ho Chi Minh-based tour guide for Chinese travelers, said intense Vietnamese reaction to the clip seems “politically motivated.” “In the past, when Vietnam and China retained friendly relations, issues related to Chinese tourists were not reported much," Chi said. "But now, due to the political things going on, they were propagandized.”

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Tourists in Ho Chi Minh City look at a Soviet-made tank.​

Despite the apparent tensions, Chi says recent guided tours have yet to see any overtly hostile attitudes toward her clients. On Thursday, however, Vietnam's VnExpress International reported that Vietnam’s Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism asked local police to expel 66 Chinese nationals, including tour guides, working illegally in the travel industry in the central province of Khanh Hoa.

Cross-border dialogue

The Vietnamese National Administration of Tourism early this month reportedly asked its Chinese counterpart to deal strictly with tourists who misbehave or break local laws when visiting Vietnam. Around 1.8 million Chinese tourists visited the Southeast Asian country last year. This year, the number is expected to hit a record 2 million visitors. In a separate development, some Da Nang residents have expressed concern over suspected jamming of radio transmissions, but Vietnam’s broadcast watchdog blamed technical errors for the issue.

Recent social media chatter about broadcast interference in at least two coastal provinces have alleged that China is jamming signals. A local official in Ngu Hanh Son district was quoted by Vietnamese media as saying that authorities suspect the interference comes from the sea. Huynh Quang Trung, a Ngu Hanh Son district official, told VOA's Vietnamese service on Thursday that the issue has been resolved. “The radio system has been replaced, and there is no longer any problem,” he said. Officials said an initial investigation found that there had not been deliberate jamming, and instead placed blame on a “technical issue.”

Vietnam Mulls Tough Measures for ‘Misbehaving’ Chinese Tourists
 
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KINGS OF THE EAST (REV 16:12) STRENGTHENING AND MAKING ALLIANCES WHICH WILL ENABLE HER TO MARCH AGAINST ISRAEL AT THE END OF THE TRIBULATION PERIOD



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PHYSICAL PATH CHINA WOULD HAVE TO TAKE TO ATTACK ISRAEL.



  • If this Chinese Army, marching from the East, were equipped with weapons of mass destruction, i.e., nuclear, chemical, and biological, they could easily kill tens of millions of people on their way to Israel. Remember, modern weaponry has tactical shells and missiles of all three of these weapons of mass destruction.
  • Let us examine the path from China this terrible army might take to get to Israel. We already know they will be coming from the East, but then in Revelation 16:12, we discover that they will be crossing the River Euphrates, which has been dried up. Please take a close look at the map, above, at the beginning of this section.
  • What countries will the Chinese Army have to go through or near to get from China to Israel by way of the Euphrates River in the Middle East? And, more importantly, what are their populations?
  • The Chinese Army would have to progress through the following countries, or very near them. From Northern China is where this enormous army would have to stage to begin the march, as you can see from the map of China, above. The superhighway is shown in red. Then, as the road crosses over the Chinese border, it goes into the Chinese controlled area of Kashmir, through the Pakistan controlled area of Kashmir, and then through the Karahoram Highway! Then, the road would go West through the following countries.

  • Tibet -- Some maps will have taken Tibet off the map, showing just China


  • Pakistan -- Notice on the map that China and India have a "disputed area" exactly in the way where this road would logically enter from China to Pakistan. This map even shows a "Cease Fire Line". This disputed area is Kashmir! Further, this Chinese highway goes right through Karahorum Pass!


  • India -- this super highway would run immediately North of India, but right through the disputed area of Kashmir. The one characteristic shared by the Chinese and the Pakistanis is their hatred of the Indians. Both China and Pakistan have fought wars against India. Historic hatred and competition is fierce. When China marches her 200,000,000 man army along this highway, through the Karahoram Pass, the most incredibly powerful army the world has ever seen will be passing from China through the Chinese-controlled portion of Kashmir, through the Pakistan-controlled portion of Kashmir, and right through the Karahoram Pass! When India sees such a powerful army passing just north of her border, she is likely to feel threatened enough to attempt to interdict it. When this happens, China is likely to launch a devastating counterattack using all of the Weapons of Mass Destruction at her disposal. All of India might be annihilated, comprising 25% of the world's population at that point in the Great Tribulation!


  • Afghanistan --- America continues to fight a war against the Taliban of Afghanistan. Now, the entire country lies at our strategic disposal. Whatever we want to do, the Afghan government is not going to be able to say "No"; therefore, it is logical that the interim government of Afghanistan would now allow free access to a super highway already built across their land, particularly if they heard the explanation that this road would enable the Chinese to "take out" the Israelis once and for all. Was our war in Afghanistan really fought only to provide free, unfettered access to this highway?


    From China all the way across Afghanistan, this super highway would run across some of the tallest mountains in the world. You can see that, if a nation is going to rapidly move 200,000,000 fighting men and their war materiel across such a long distance, they would need such a modern super highway. Otherwise, the mountains would prohibit such movement.



    Grant Jeffrey says very plainly, "The Chinese government has spent enormous sums and expended the lives of hundreds of thousands of construction workers building a military superhighway across Asia heading directly toward Israel. The highway has no economic purpose and no foreigners are allowed anywhere near this road. The highway has been completed through the south of China, Tibet, Pakistan, and Afghanistan." [Ibid., p. 199]



    Why is this highway only completed through Afghanistan? After all, this 200 million man army still has to travel through Iran, Iraq, and Jordan to get to Israel. Why would the highway be constructed only through Afghanistan? One possible answer is that they have not received the permission from Iran and Iraq to build such a super highway; however, I do not believe this is the case, because of the hatred of the Arabs against Israel. They would do anything to see Israel defeated and annihilated, including the building of a super highway. The second possible answer is that the terrain of Iran, Iraq, and Jordan is so flat that huge tanks, trucks, and tens of thousands of other tracked vehicles could easily travel across the land. In military terms, this land is called "Tank Country", because tanks can so easily move quickly across.
  • Iran -- Once the highway ends at Afghanistan, Iran will be easily traversed. Its land is so flat, it is called, "Tank Country". Huge numbers of men, materiel, and heavy equipment can easily travel on it quickly!


  • Iraq -- Ditto Iran. Most interesting is that, at this moment, Coalition Forces control Iraq. Specifically, the Americans control Baghdad, which is located on the 33rd parallel and through which the Tigris and Euphrates pass. No one can be sure of the effect on this portion of prophecy the American control of Baghdad may have. However, I believe that the American control will be gone by the time the world has reached the end of the 7-year prophecy, which is when this particular event occurs.
And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
Revelation 16:12

China: Kings of the east
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I do not endorse any of these Bible prophecy people - I'd dismiss most of it - Grant Jeffries and so on.. but the map and some of what is written does give us the picture of the final battle against Israel which is when the kings of the east - march against her.
 
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