China Now Has World's Fastest Supercomputer: And the GOP Helped

[Quantum Windbag]

China Now Has World's Fastest Supercomputer: And the GOP Helped

Translation: The DNC is just jealous.

The part that gets me is these are the same people that used to jump all over anyone who called for more defense spending because of the commie menace, now they are jumping all over other people because we do not think there is a commie menace.

 

[blu]

Obama is a communist.

you said it right there... duh

 

[blu]

also we have some of these in the office now:

Newegg.com - EVGA 015-P3-1480-AR GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card



1.5 GB ram and 480 processing cores

 

[DiveCon]

Obama is a communist.

you said it right there... duh

editing to take out of context is a shitty thing to do

 

[blu]

Obama is a communist.

you said it right there... duh

editing to take out of context is a shitty thing to do

the "duh" part should have shown obvious sarcasm :-/ especially since I repsonded to the post he asked about it in

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Obama is a communist.

you said it right there... duh

 

[FA_Q2]

Stupid partisan hackery. China makes ONE accomplishment and then it is game over for the D's. Fact is, there will always be arias that other countries exceed the US in temporarily. Our technology FAR FAR FAR FAR exceeds theirs. You have no CLUE what this nation is capable of doing and I can tell you that it is far beyond China's ONE computer accomplishment.

 

[rdean]

Named Tianhe-1A, which means "Milky Way" in Mandarin, China's new supercomputer has 168 graphics processing units -- the type of graphics chips used in video games -- and 14,336 Intel CPUs, according to PC World. All of these processors were made by U.S. companies, but they're linked together by new Chinese-invented technology.

China Dethrones US With World's Fastest Supercomputer, the Tianhe-1A

I remember all the right wingers laughing and calling me names when I pointed out the US Air Force built a super computer from play station chips.

One thing the GOP has proven, they know how to nation build.

Millions of jobs moved to China from 2001 to 2008.

US Technology moved to China.

Chinese and Republican supported US Chamber of Commerce seminars on outsourcing American jobs to China.

Subsidies and tax breaks to train Chinese to take over American jobs.

And from all of our training, they put together a better super computer than us based on our own technology. Good Going GOP. You did it!!!!

Oh No. They are going to run calculations and discover that communism will never defeat capitalism. What are we going to do?

Why are you afraid of China? When was the last time we had a war with China? We didn't even go to war with China when MacArthur threatened to invade them, why would we start now?

The right wing, by supporting moving jobs from this country to China isn't defeating capitalism, no, they are defeating America.

We never had a war with Russia, yet we defeated them.

Does everything have to be explained?

 

[rdean]

Yeah we made plenty of supercomputers, however many of them are now obsolete.
What were super computers are now just computers.

What makes you think the US does not have a top secret computer somewhere that makes the one in China obsolete?

What makes you think they do?

What ARE you? McGiver?

 

[rdean]

Yes, i get it. China owns the worlds fastest computer.... for maybe the next couple weeks until an American company makes a faster one. Big deal. Its one fucking computer and the US cant be the best at everything at all times. Next year some other country will hold that spot for a split second, then the US will be back on top again, and this process will repeat itself over and over again.

The US is always going to be the country to beat, and everyone will keep trying. They just wont beat us for long. Regardless, Chinas fastest computer isnt faster than say... 2 of our fast computers together. Like i said before, we have hundreds of them to use, so Chinas 1 computer doesnt mean shit.

How will we stay "the country to beat"?


You see when you dont invest in thesse areas all you get is Corps building video games to make money.

Do you realize the only reason we have been on top is Nasa's computor advances?

Do you realize that NASA is not a word? That the proper way to type it is the way I did, all capital letters, because it is an acronym? Do you further realize that NASA made exactly 0 computer advances? All their computers were built by private companies or research labs?

prove it

 

[rdean]

The Japanese made good stuff better by their own ingenuity.

The Chicoms just steal and/or buy shit from the most available and gullible political twirp looking for some cash.

In the '50s, America executed such people as spies...Today, we call those spies "Mr. President".

Must have during Nixon as well. He opened up China.

And your arrogance is ignoring the education and skills Chinese workers have.
Blindness caused by arrogance.

We are not number 1 in too many things lately.

Communists don't teach superior technological skills.

If they did, the USSR would've blown America away with their technology during the cold war....If they did, the Chinese wouldn't have needed to bribe the Clintoon administration, in the missile-secrets-for-campaign-booty scam.

Communists are vastly overrated.

prove it

 

[rdean]

We design and have China make em.
Of course they will not copy anything.

Now that is one hilarious statement. Unfortunately, the right sees nothing funny about it. In fact, they see it as a "statement of fact".

We sold them chips that they tied together to make their computer, meanwhile we build chips that are faster than the best chips they can buy, and use them in our computers. The only reason their computer is faster is they tied more chips together. Do you really think it will take long for us to reclaim the title?

You remind me people back during the cold war who used to go into a panic every time Russia broke the record for the fastest or highest flight ever. They usually held it until the Air Force filed an official flight plan for the SR-71 that was higher and faster. Want to guess how long that took, on average? Keep in mind that the SR-71 still holds the record for the fastest jet aircraft ever flown, even though it is officially decommissioned.

You just proved you have no clue what you are talking about. Right wingers will read what you wrote and see some kind of logic. Everyone else is just laughing.

 

[rdean]

It was inevitable this would happen. We've devalued education so much in this country we were bound to lose the techonological edge sooner or later.

nothing to do with it. they simply built their machine from scratch while we incrementally upgraded ours. Tesla cards (the video cards talked about) have amazing parallel processing capabilities across 100s of streaming processors per card, that far out do regular chips in parallelizable computations

Please explain in detail.

 

[rdean]

Stupid partisan hackery. China makes ONE accomplishment and then it is game over for the D's. Fact is, there will always be arias that other countries exceed the US in temporarily. Our technology FAR FAR FAR FAR exceeds theirs. You have no CLUE what this nation is capable of doing and I can tell you that it is far beyond China's ONE computer accomplishment.

Except now, how much of that technology is being built in China?

 

[blu]

It was inevitable this would happen. We've devalued education so much in this country we were bound to lose the techonological edge sooner or later.

nothing to do with it. they simply built their machine from scratch while we incrementally upgraded ours. Tesla cards (the video cards talked about) have amazing parallel processing capabilities across 100s of streaming processors per card, that far out do regular chips in parallelizable computations

Please explain in detail.

alright, here is a card I linked to in an earlier post:

Newegg.com - EVGA 015-P3-1480-AR GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

this single card alone has 480 processing cores that each run at the equivalent of 700Mhz and the entire architecture of the card is such that groups of these run the same task (across different sets of data) in parallel very efficiently. also if you run ALL sets of tasks on the same data then you have 480/processors per group all doing the same task at the same time. also considering that card has 1.5GB of usable ram, filling memory will never be a bottle neck as a CPU thread can constantly fill the memory on the card as the card is processing, all without delay or latency.

if you look at this paper here:

http://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2010/papers/sigcomm/p195.pdf

you will this research team was able to build a 10Gb/s router using processing on the GPU which is well beyond impossible using a single CPU or even multiple CPUs on the same physical board.

from the paper:

PacketShader exploits the massively-parallel processing power of GPU to address the CPU bottleneck in current software routers. Combined with our high-performance packet I/O engine, PacketShader outperforms existing software routers by more than a factor of four, forwarding 64B IPv4 packets at 39 Gbps on a single commodity PC.

so with all that said, the fact that the china computer has so many cards is equivalent to hundreds or thousands of regular CPUs since computers such as the one discussed are solely used for parallelized computation.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yes rdean, Republicans are trying to build up China by selling them Xboxes.

You're right again.

 

[rdean]

Yes rdean, Republicans are trying to build up China by selling them Xboxes.

You're right again.

Stupid shit. We don't need to sell China XBoxes. Why? Because they are "Made in China".

 

[rdean]

nothing to do with it. they simply built their machine from scratch while we incrementally upgraded ours. Tesla cards (the video cards talked about) have amazing parallel processing capabilities across 100s of streaming processors per card, that far out do regular chips in parallelizable computations

Please explain in detail.

alright, here is a card I linked to in an earlier post:

Newegg.com - EVGA 015-P3-1480-AR GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

this single card alone has 480 processing cores that each run at the equivalent of 700Mhz and the entire architecture of the card is such that groups of these run the same task (across different sets of data) in parallel very efficiently. also if you run ALL sets of tasks on the same data then you have 480/processors per group all doing the same task at the same time. also considering that card has 1.5GB of usable ram, filling memory will never be a bottle neck as a CPU thread can constantly fill the memory on the card as the card is processing, all without delay or latency.

if you look at this paper here:

http://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2010/papers/sigcomm/p195.pdf

you will this research team was able to build a 10Gb/s router using processing on the GPU which is well beyond impossible using a single CPU or even multiple CPUs on the same physical board.

from the paper:

PacketShader exploits the massively-parallel processing power of GPU to address the CPU bottleneck in current software routers. Combined with our high-performance packet I/O engine, PacketShader outperforms existing software routers by more than a factor of four, forwarding 64B IPv4 packets at 39 Gbps on a single commodity PC.

so with all that said, the fact that the china computer has so many cards is equivalent to hundreds or thousands of regular CPUs since computers such as the one discussed are solely used for parallelized computation.

I'm not sure what you're point is. For one, China isn't linking together "video cards", but the main processor used on video cards. To use video cards would add unused components. For another, the it's would increase the power, add heat and make the entire assembly much slower.

Even on microprocessors, the goal is to make everything smaller and smaller. With smaller and shorter traces, much less current is used. You would think that microscopic transistors on a single processor wouldn't take that much power. But add all those distances from between millions of transistors and you are covering much more ground than you would think.

The Chinese used over 14 thousand microprocessors and over 160 chips used for video graphics, but the entire "through put" was designed by them. Besides, they make the chips over there. We built the factories for them. We trained the people of China. We supplied the design and with tax breaks and subsidies from the Bush administration, supplied the capital.

Look how big it is. This includes power supply, cooling, through put design and over 14,000 processors. Not very big considering.

 

[Old Rocks]

The Japanese made good stuff better by their own ingenuity.

The Chicoms just steal and/or buy shit from the most available and gullible political twirp looking for some cash.

In the '50s, America executed such people as spies...Today, we call those spies "Mr. President".

Must have during Nixon as well. He opened up China.

And your arrogance is ignoring the education and skills Chinese workers have.
Blindness caused by arrogance.

We are not number 1 in too many things lately.

Communists don't teach superior technological skills.

If they did, the USSR would've blown America away with their technology during the cold war....If they did, the Chinese wouldn't have needed to bribe the Clintoon administration, in the missile-secrets-for-campaign-booty scam.

Communists are vastly overrated.

China is no communist than we are full blown capitalists. How do you over rate a nation that is advancing as fast as China?

Engineering in China from best Engineering universities of China in English Medium, Engineering Program and Engineering Course at Top Engineering University in China best Engineering College in China and best Engineering Institute in China. Admission

 

[rdean]

Must have during Nixon as well. He opened up China.

And your arrogance is ignoring the education and skills Chinese workers have.
Blindness caused by arrogance.

We are not number 1 in too many things lately.

Communists don't teach superior technological skills.

If they did, the USSR would've blown America away with their technology during the cold war....If they did, the Chinese wouldn't have needed to bribe the Clintoon administration, in the missile-secrets-for-campaign-booty scam.

Communists are vastly overrated.

China is no communist than we are full blown capitalists. How do you over rate a nation that is advancing as fast as China?

Engineering in China from best Engineering universities of China in English Medium, Engineering Program and Engineering Course at Top Engineering University in China best Engineering College in China and best Engineering Institute in China. Admission

The best and brightest in China don't go into "engineering", but into "business". We've known this for a long time. I'm not saying that only dumb Chinese go into engineering. There are plenty of smart ones there.

But the Chinese understand diversity. That's why they are attracting foreign students and sending students to this country. Diversity leads to more ideas and a broader range of understanding. It's not all about race.

Colleges scour China for top students - The Boston Globe

But make no mistake. China is a communist country. One that has learned from the mistakes of the USSR. We tend to see communism through the lens of the USSR.

There is no vote in China. No free speech. No say in the government. Any insurrection is put down swiftly with aggression. The government is involved in every aspect of business. By paying Chinese workers 51 cents an hour, there is plenty of money to pay off the Chinese government AND make a stellar profit.

The US brought down the USSR through economic warfare. China learned from that and, with the help of the greedy right wing, is kicking our asses.