China moving ahead of the U.S. in wind and solar power

[uscitizen]

Consider if more homes heated with electric instead of propan and heating oil?

from link below:
Another source of supply of propane is from imports. Imports for the first five months of this year have decreased about 8 percent (about 13 thousand barrels per day) compared to the same period of time one year ago. But compared to the five-year average, propane imports are up by 14 percent (19 thousand barrels per day) over the first five months of this year.

U.S. Propane Imports

We import about 10% of the propane we use.

 

[Modbert]

slavery is making a comeback?

who knew?

Indentured Servitude will be. Speaking of which Del, to cover our debt costs to China, we will be giving you to them for about 10 Pesos. Hope you know how to speak Chinese!

 

[Oddball]

slavery is making a comeback?

who knew?

Indentured Servitude will be. Speaking of which Del, to cover our debt costs to China, we will be giving you to them for about 10 Pesos. Hope you know how to speak Chinese!

You do realize the same things were said about Hong Kong, Japan and Taiwan, don't you?

 

[del]

slavery is making a comeback?

who knew?

Indentured Servitude will be. Speaking of which Del, to cover our debt costs to China, we will be giving you to them for about 10 Pesos. Hope you know how to speak Chinese!

shi wo.

 

[Wry Catcher]

^^^
Stereotype straight out of a psych textbook.

Evidence based classification, Dude. The basis for a hypothesis which each day moves closer and closer to highly probable.
Maybe if you were to (even once) post a substantive message on an important issue facing our nation that was not sarcastic or arrogant, offer an opinion evidence based on which direction our nation ought to go and how, or even offer a rational response to another poster, you might not be so easily pigeonholed.
I suspect talking points are the outer limits of your ability - sad for you.

"Evidence" based upon projection, skippy.

There are few here who are a bigger living stereotype of the pissed off, self-righteous, leftist hack loon than you.

I suggest a 'scrip for a psychotropic, if you already aren't taking them.

Arrogant sarcasm seems to be the best you've got.

 

[Oddball]

And neurotic projection is the best you've got.

P.S.....I wasn't being sarcastic about the psychotropics.

 

[uscitizen]

China used the Yuan when I was over there.

 

[GHook93]

One thing you have to admire about China is that when they want to get something done they do it! Here in America it take years of bickering in Congress and then a half-ass compromise comes out.

Solution for American, kill the senate, less house repres!

 

[Screaming Eagle]

Consider if more homes heated with electric instead of propan and heating oil?

from link below:
Another source of supply of propane is from imports. Imports for the first five months of this year have decreased about 8 percent (about 13 thousand barrels per day) compared to the same period of time one year ago. But compared to the five-year average, propane imports are up by 14 percent (19 thousand barrels per day) over the first five months of this year.

U.S. Propane Imports

We import about 10% of the propane we use.

What should I consider about that? That it would be like totally cool? I don't consider propane imports to be a major problem either as 70% of our imports of propane are from Canada. The remaining 3% isn't all that much to get cracked up about, in my opinion.

If you want people to use more electricity the best way to do that is for it to be cheaper. The way to do that is to build more nuclear plants.

Instead of posting random facts, try making a point. Don't do this: Wouldn't it be great if all the bbq pits in America used all American Kingsford charcoal briquettes instead of propane? Because no one knows why the hell that would be great, or if we should even give a damn, or most importantly how to accomplish it.

 

[uscitizen]

Yep when they catch a company exec poisioning food for profit, he is in deep doodoo.

 

[uscitizen]

Consider if more homes heated with electric instead of propan and heating oil?

from link below:
Another source of supply of propane is from imports. Imports for the first five months of this year have decreased about 8 percent (about 13 thousand barrels per day) compared to the same period of time one year ago. But compared to the five-year average, propane imports are up by 14 percent (19 thousand barrels per day) over the first five months of this year.

U.S. Propane Imports

We import about 10% of the propane we use.

What should I consider about that? That it would be like totally cool? I don't consider propane imports to be a major problem either as 70% of our imports of propane are from Canada. The remaining 3% isn't all that much to get cracked up about, in my opinion.

If you want people to use more electricity the best way to do that is for it to be cheaper. The way to do that is to build more nuclear plants.

Instead of posting random facts, try making a point. Don't do this: Wouldn't it be great if all the bbq pits in America used all American Kingsford charcoal briquettes instead of propane? Because no one knows why the hell that would be great, or if we should even give a damn, or most importantly how to accomplish it.

Umm we import heating oil from that commie Hugo.\\My point is if we generate more alternative electricity and get homes off of heating with petro products and using electricity made from solar, etc. It is much better all around in the long run. Also we use over half of our energy in our homes. We need to insulate, etc making them much more efficient.

 

[uscitizen]

We need to give big tax credits for people to convert from heating oil to efficient electric systems.
Would create jobs too.

 

[Oddball]

We need to give big tax credits for people to convert from heating oil to efficient electric systems.
Would create jobs too.

Yes...We need the tax code for social engineering much more so than raising funds for the day-to-day operations of gubmint.

 

[Wry Catcher]

In 1980 we purchased our current home, a home which was not insulated. Under Carter's leadership a program providing us with a zero interest loan - administered by PG&E - allowed us to fully insulate the walls and ceiling of our home for $17 / month over five years.
A massive government effort to subsidize homeowners to re-roof with solar roof panels would reduce the cost of such materials (supply and demand), provide jobs, and reduce our nations need for nonrenewable energy. It would allow homeowners to 'fill' their green cars with power, power generated during the day and stored in batteries for later use, or at collection stations at their job, or where they park their car to ride an electric train to work. All public buildings should have solar panels on their roofs, new building construction and remodels of older ones too.
Or, we can drill, baby, drill; continue spending $ billions on a military to protect private industry in foreign lands, continue to pollute our air and water and continue to make sarcastic comments when progressive ideas challenge the propaganda we love and respect - for change is real scary. Isn't that right conservatives?

 

[uscitizen]

We need to give big tax credits for people to convert from heating oil to efficient electric systems.
Would create jobs too.

Yes...We need the tax code for social engineering much more so than raising funds for the day-to-day operations of gubmint.

right... Who needs more stinking jobs anyway.

 

[Oddball]

Gubmint doesn't create any added value to anything, therefore cannot "create jobs" in one sector without destroying them in another.

That's only one of the most basic of economic concepts.

 

[uscitizen]

Gubmint doesn't create any added value to anything, therefore cannot "create jobs" in one sector without destroying them in another.

That's only one of the most basic of economic concepts.

so why are you against a tax cut that does directly create jobs in America?

Seems like I recall bush supporters saying tax cuts created jobs...

 

[Oddball]

Tax cuts leave more money in the hands of those who create added value, which has a likelihood of increasing productivity, hence employment.

Taking tax dollars and using them to prop up this or that industry merely takes resources from the productive to fund the less productive....Which would tend to equal a net loss in productivity, and subsequently employment.

 

[uscitizen]

Tax cuts leave more money in the hands of those who create added value, which has a likelihood of increasing productivity, hence employment.

Taking tax dollars and using them to prop up this or that industry merely takes resources from the productive to fund the less productive....Which would tend to equal a net loss in productivity, and subsequently employment.

Man talk about circular lameness.

Tax breaks to insulate and upgrade home energy efficiency directly translates into jobs for the building and HVAC/Electrical industries.

It is much better than giving a hedge fund manager a tax cut as he will just keep his money? To get the energy upgrade tax break the home owner will have to have the work done. Which is labor and materials which is JOBS!

 

[Oddball]

Circular lameness nothing. They're economic concepts that have been accepted for decades, if not centuries.

So-called "targeted" tax breaks only use the force of the tax code to direct money that would've been spent or invested in other sectors of the economy to favored industries....Zero net economic gain....It's a variation on the old and thoroughly debunked "broken window" theory.

If attending a basic economic course at your local community college isn't your cup of tea, there are numerous cogent and easily digested books on the topic.

Good places to start would be here:

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Economics-One-Lesson-Shortest-Understand/dp/0517548232]Amazon.com: Economics in One Lesson: The Shortest and Surest Way to Understand Basic Economics (9780517548233): Henry Hazlitt: Books[/ame]

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Making-Modern-Economics-Lives-Thinkers/dp/0765604809]Amazon.com: The Making of Modern Economics: The Lives and Ideas of the Great Thinkers (9780765604804): Mark Skousen: Books[/ame]