China has carrier-killer missile, U.S. admiral says

[MikeK]

Those of you that know me from other forums know that I have been saying this for years - China is the greatest threat to American power than the rest of the world put together.
China has the patience of a saint. They would think nothing of developing a 100 year plan to dominate the world. It wouldn't bother a typical Chinese leader for a second if he never sees the benefit of his lifes work in his lifetime.
Americans on the other hand have zero patience. We actually have "negative" pateince, it doesn't bother a typical American leader for a second knowing he/she is hurting the future to solve an issue today.

I agree completely.

The Chinese civilization has been around for seven thousand years, so they must know something.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's a concern, but you have to wonder what are carriers would be doing there in the first place and what our response would be to having one get hit by ChiCom hardware?

THe ChiComs tested Dubya in April 2001 by commandeering a research plane near Hainan Is., asked Dubya to apologize and then send the plane back it use in crates after the disassembled it. OK. When the shooting started after 9/11 out very first bomb in the war leveled the ChiCom built teleco facility at Kabul.

When the ChiComs complained about the loss of life our response was somewhere between, "Did you thunk we we're kidding?" to "that's what happens when you get cute with us"

If we were at war with the ChiComs we would try to target and smoke as many launch sites and launchers as our Intel could track

 

[Trajan]

Those of you that know me from other forums know that I have been saying this for years - China is the greatest threat to American power than the rest of the world put together.
China has the patience of a saint. They would think nothing of developing a 100 year plan to dominate the world. It wouldn't bother a typical Chinese leader for a second if he never sees the benefit of his lifes work in his lifetime.
Americans on the other hand have zero patience. We actually have "negative" pateince, it doesn't bother a typical American leader for a second knowing he/she is hurting the future to solve an issue today.

its a mindset we have paid dearly ignoringI think Kipling wrote a few lines on that
They sue a circular calender, we use a linear one, in their mindset time and events are cyclical in nature, we run ahead thinking we will run out if it.........

 

[R.C. Christian]

If the Chinese decided tomorrow to invade Taiwan, the U.S. would lose.

 

[Sallow]

Those of you that know me from other forums know that I have been saying this for years - China is the greatest threat to American power than the rest of the world put together.
China has the patience of a saint. They would think nothing of developing a 100 year plan to dominate the world. It wouldn't bother a typical Chinese leader for a second if he never sees the benefit of his lifes work in his lifetime.
Americans on the other hand have zero patience. We actually have "negative" pateince, it doesn't bother a typical American leader for a second knowing he/she is hurting the future to solve an issue today.

its a mindset we have paid dearly ignoringI think Kipling wrote a few lines on that
They sue a circular calender, we use a linear one, in their mindset time and events are cyclical in nature, we run ahead thinking we will run out if it.........

They also have no designs on the entire world. If anything..they would be much happier closing themselves to it.

 

[Sallow]

When the ChiComs complained about the loss of life our response was somewhere between, "Did you thunk we we're kidding?" to "that's what happens when you get cute with us"

I kinda doubt that. There were several British fighters shot down by Americans..as well as British military convoys strafed..by American units.

What was the message to them?

"British rock sucks"?

If anything..that whole episode was a superpower wink wink, nudge nudge. So the Russians could roll Georgia and the Chinese could roll Tibet.

 

[ABikerSailor]

What will Obama do? Likely NOTHING. Perhaps negotiate a new Suicide Time Again Regression Treaty.......


China's military is deploying a new anti-ship ballistic missile that can sink U.S. aircraft carriers, a weapon that specialists say gives Beijing new power-projection capabilities that will affect U.S. support for its Pacific allies.

Adm. Robert F. Willard, commander of the U.S. Pacific Command, disclosed to a Japanese newspaper on Sunday that the new anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM) is now in the early stages of deployment after having undergone extensive testing.

"An analogy using a Western term would be 'initial operational capability (IOC),' whereby I think China would perceive that it has an operational capability now, but they continue to develop it," Adm. Willard told the Asahi Shimbun. "I would gauge it as about the equivalent of a U.S. system that has achieved IOC."

China has carrier-killer missile, U.S. admiral says - Washington Times

Hey Righteous Lemming.........did you actually serve in the Fleet where they have stuff like CIWS, or did you get kicked out on an entry level separation because your stupid asthmatic ass couldn't keep up with the real men you went to boot camp with?

I'm guessing the latter. BTW chump steak, if you'd actually been to the fleet, you'd understand that we've got several layers of protection around each and every carrier battle group.

Try again ya fucking retard. You know NOTHING about the US Navy.

 

[R.C. Christian]

A must read.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/files/2008_RAND_Pacific_View_Air_Combat_Briefing.pdf

 

[JakeStarkey]

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If this is what you have on the president, my republican presidential candidate of the future's chances are slim.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

When the ChiComs complained about the loss of life our response was somewhere between, "Did you thunk we we're kidding?" to "that's what happens when you get cute with us"

I kinda doubt that. There were several British fighters shot down by Americans..as well as British military convoys strafed..by American units.

What was the message to them?

"British rock sucks"?

If anything..that whole episode was a superpower wink wink, nudge nudge. So the Russians could roll Georgia and the Chinese could roll Tibet.

Did you miss the part about the first bomb of the Afghan Campaign hittign the ChiCom built and staffed Telco facility?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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If this is what you have on the president, my republican presidential candidate of the future's chances are slim.

Why do you feel the need to highlight your candidate would be a "republican" Jake?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Why would you ask such a question, since you are not a Republican, CrusaderFrank. I notice you ran like a scared skunk on the other thread. Wise, son, very wife.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Why would you ask such a question, since you are not a Republican, CrusaderFrank. I notice you ran like a scared skunk on the other thread. Wise, son, very wife.

What other thread?

 

[R.C. Christian]

Too bad an otherwise important thread has devolved to this mud sling.

 

[uscitizen]

Hopefully they work as well as everything else China produces...

It's originally a Russian development. The technology was sold to Iran, which in turn sold it to China. It is a fearsome, ship-killing missile for which there is no available countermeasure.

It's called the Sunburn and is not new but has been around for several years. What makes it so dangerous is it flies faster than the speed of sound, carries an enormous payload (powerful enough to sink a carrier) and it follows a sensor-maintained flight path no higher than six feet above the surface of the water, which makes it undetectable by conventional radar. And it costs less than a low-grade fighter plane to produce.

We'd better hope that a countermeasure for this weapon is developed soon, because it conceivably could render our Naval warfare capability totally useless.

While it's probably a problem..I am reasonably sure counter measures are being worked on as we speak.

And while the Russians make some pretty good gear..most of it pale in comparison to American made gear.

America is number1!
America is number1!

 

[JWBooth]

This story is at least 6 months old.

 

[JWBooth]

This story is at least 6 months old.

Or more...

September - China needs carrier-killer missile: press | Missiles & Bombs News at DefenseTalk

August - Chinese 'Carrier-Killer' Missile Could Reshape Sea Combat - FoxNews.com

April 2009 - New Concerns Over Chinese 'Carrier-Killer'

 

[Sallow]

When the ChiComs complained about the loss of life our response was somewhere between, "Did you thunk we we're kidding?" to "that's what happens when you get cute with us"

I kinda doubt that. There were several British fighters shot down by Americans..as well as British military convoys strafed..by American units.

What was the message to them?

"British rock sucks"?

If anything..that whole episode was a superpower wink wink, nudge nudge. So the Russians could roll Georgia and the Chinese could roll Tibet.

Did you miss the part about the first bomb of the Afghan Campaign hittign the ChiCom built and staffed Telco facility?

It very well might have been a real accident..

Like this:

BBC NEWS | UK | RAF Tornado downed by US missile

 

[Sallow]

It's originally a Russian development. The technology was sold to Iran, which in turn sold it to China. It is a fearsome, ship-killing missile for which there is no available countermeasure.

It's called the Sunburn and is not new but has been around for several years. What makes it so dangerous is it flies faster than the speed of sound, carries an enormous payload (powerful enough to sink a carrier) and it follows a sensor-maintained flight path no higher than six feet above the surface of the water, which makes it undetectable by conventional radar. And it costs less than a low-grade fighter plane to produce.

We'd better hope that a countermeasure for this weapon is developed soon, because it conceivably could render our Naval warfare capability totally useless.

While it's probably a problem..I am reasonably sure counter measures are being worked on as we speak.

And while the Russians make some pretty good gear..most of it pale in comparison to American made gear.

America is number1!
America is number1!

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

And your solution for stopping the Chinese?

......Seriously?

Use your damn head. We have pledged to defend Taiwan against immoral, unwarranted, Chi-com military aggression.

The Chi-coms have pledged to retake Taiwan BY FORCE if it doesn't come back on it's own.

Now THINK....................................................

So, this thread has gone from new anti-ship ballistic missile that can sink U.S. aircraft carriers to defending Taiwan against China's obsession with Taiwan. So you're suggesting a pre-emptive strike on China because they developed an anti-ship missile. Correct?

Let's put the brakes on them words in my mouth dude, mmm k?

I never said that. Your last post was insanely vague. That being, anyone who's even remotely informed knows that Taiwan is @ the center of our usual diplomatic iciness with China. Like I said, they've pledged to retake Taiwan, we've pledged to stop them. IF they follow thru, they'll likely be a war, and that, yes, is ultimately the only way to stop China from what it really, obviously wants, Taiwan, Asia, the world.

But their new missle? I know we can develop successful counter measures. We've never met a weapon, system, etc. that we couldn't beat.......but Obama's mind boggling weakness is definitely impeding that.........