China erects 30 story hotel in 15 days

[Sallow]

and then it will go down in 15 minutes during a 5.0 earthquake

They claim it will survive a 9.0.

Still.... as impressive as it looks, i wonder about the Codes and Standards it was actually built to.

Codes?

Standards?

Regulation!

You commie you!

 

[Unkotare]

It's great to break this shit to people that don't live here. But it wasn't Unions. It was the families of the dead that were a drag on construction.

True story.

They wanted to make the place into a graveyard.

Work Stoppage at World Trade Center - RPA Center for Urban Innovation

Hundreds of unionized concrete workers refused to work Monday at the World Trade Center and a smattering of other sites, setting the stage for a possible strike in the coming days.

The work action stopped construction on part of the World Trade Center's 800,000-square-foot transit hub, according to a person familiar with the matter. Some construction tradesmen continued work there Monday, but a prolonged work stoppage could affect all construction that needs concrete to proceed, according to that person.
Construction proceeded at other sites where workers didn't show up Monday, including the new basketball arena at Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn.

It was not known if a strike vote had been scheduled. The contract covering more than 2,000 concrete workers from three local unions expired on June 30. Since then, the concrete workers have been operating without a new contract.

One looming question remains: If the concrete workers do strike, will other trades cross the picket line?

"I don't think any of the other trades will formally authorize a strike," said Louis Coletti, president of the Building Trades Employers' Association, an umbrella group that represents contractors said Monday. "We won't know till tomorrow."

A source familiar with the matter said labor negotiations were proceeding Monday between the Cement and Concrete Workers District Council representing the concrete workers and the Cement League, a contractors' association that represents management.

"The World Trade Center site should not be held as a bargaining chip in these negotiations," Mr. Coletti said. "Despite differences, they should go to work."

The union declined to comment. Cement League officials could not be reached Monday.

Concrete workers also stopped working at One World Trade Center, slated to be a 104-story office tower, according to another person familiar with the matter. But other construction there will be able to continue for about a week or so.

Monday's work stoppage by the concrete workers union will have "no impact on construction of the 9/11 Memorial, which remains on track to open on the tenth anniversary [of the attacks], and minimal impacts on the site's other projects," said Steve Coleman, a spokesman with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

Contractors have been rushing to complete the 9/11 Memorial, and a delay in that opening could result in a public criticism for both sides.

The work stoppage forced about 600 other World Trade Center laborers to be sent home because construction could not proceed without concrete workers, Mr. Coletti added.

More than 100 workers gathered behind a police barricade set up across the street from the main entrance to the World Trade Center PATH station at West Broadway and Vesey Street, said Chris Montalbano, a concrete worker labor steward who works in the World Trade Center's new transportation hub and is also a representative with Local 6A, one of the three unions representing concrete workers.

Monday's gathering was "not really sanctioned or official," Mr. Montalbano said. If a deal is not reached and ratified, he said the workers will form a picket line Tuesday morning--"out in full force" with signs, which were absent Monday.

Unionized construction workers, including concrete workers, have signed cost-reduction deals referred to as project labor agreements for many projects around the city. These agreements generally forbid a strike. The transit hub and One World Trade Center, however, aren't covered by these agreements, so work stoppages are allowed under labor law.

Other sites around the city reported that concrete workers either showed up late for work on Monday or failed to show up at all, according to people familiar with the matter.

It's unclear how many projects were slowed due to the walkout, or how many laborers refused to work.

Concrete workers failed to show up for work at the Cornell-Weill Medical Center, which is covered by a project labor agreement. An arbitration hearing has been scheduled with the Building & Construction Trades Council of Greater New York to resolve the matter, the person said familiar with the matter said. Cornell did not respond to requests for comment.

More than two dozen union contracts expired in June. Most unions have since signed deals. In addition to cement workers, sheet metal workers still need to hammer out a new deal.

The cost of unionized labor has been a central theme in talks between contractors and the concrete workers, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Contractors want the concrete workers to accept 20% less in wages and benefits for residential construction work versus commercial work, the person said. The unions oppose that.

Concrete workers in New York earned $66.58 an hour in base pay and benefits last year, according to the Engineer New-Record, a trade publication.

"We can't afford the strike [because of the economy], but we can't afford to take a 20% pay cut," said Mr. Montalbano, the concrete worker. "If it was up to me, we should freeze our wages until the economy gets better but don't cut our wages."

That's an article from 2011. Since 2008 there's been real progress. Before that families were fighting tooth and nail about the design, memorial..and a whole lot of other nonsense that kept it from getting done. I can see the main building from my apartment.

You?

The concerns of the families of victims is not "nonsense."

 

[Toro]

I was in this church.

It took 170 years to build.

I would feel a lot safer in that building.

 

[Toro]

Didn't the Chinese build another building over a few weeks a couple of years ago also?

 

[xotoxi]

I was in this church.

It took 170 years to build.

It was built by union workers who were on strike for 167 of those years.

 

[theliq]

China's 'amazing' construction of a 30-story building in 360 hours - The Week

Amazing efficiency of design

Well so could anyone,being it has a bamboo structural interior,your just viewing an outer cladding.

 

[theliq]

I was in this church.

It took 170 years to build.

It was built by union workers who were on strike for 167 of those years.

yeah but this is a work of ART. just saying

 

[Old Rocks]

An awful lot of silliness here.

Prior to WW2, Lindbergh claimed we had nothing to fear from a Japanese air attack because everyone knew that the Japanese didn't have good enough eyesight to fly high performance aircraft. Prior to WW2, everyone knew the Russians were only capable of creating the crudest type of machinery. Then came the T-34. After WW2, we knew the Russians were not capable of great imagination or science. Then came Sputnik, and the first man in space.

And we all know the history of high tech manufacturing in Japan.

Any people under whatever political system, once they make up their mind to accomplish something, and to work together to do it, are capable of wonders. It is a matter of will, and the acceptance that you have to have knowledge to accomplish such things. Nations that disdain knowledge, accept willfull ignorance as a prefered state of being, soon cease to be a power in the world.

 

[MeBelle]

Didn't the Chinese build another building over a few weeks a couple of years ago also?

Is it still standing?

 

[rightwinger]

Didn't the Chinese build another building over a few weeks a couple of years ago also?

Is it still standing?

They built a wall that stood for some time

 

[Unkotare]

Didn't the Chinese build another building over a few weeks a couple of years ago also?

Is it still standing?

They built a wall that stood for some time

Didn't work as intended though.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Didn't the Chinese build another building over a few weeks a couple of years ago also?

Is it still standing?

They built a wall that stood for some time

Different time, different people. Not at all relevant to today.

 

[NLT]

It's great to break this shit to people that don't live here. But it wasn't Unions. It was the families of the dead that were a drag on construction.

True story.

They wanted to make the place into a graveyard.

Work Stoppage at World Trade Center - RPA Center for Urban Innovation

Hundreds of unionized concrete workers refused to work Monday at the World Trade Center and a smattering of other sites, setting the stage for a possible strike in the coming days.

The work action stopped construction on part of the World Trade Center's 800,000-square-foot transit hub, according to a person familiar with the matter. Some construction tradesmen continued work there Monday, but a prolonged work stoppage could affect all construction that needs concrete to proceed, according to that person.
Construction proceeded at other sites where workers didn't show up Monday, including the new basketball arena at Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn.

It was not known if a strike vote had been scheduled. The contract covering more than 2,000 concrete workers from three local unions expired on June 30. Since then, the concrete workers have been operating without a new contract.

One looming question remains: If the concrete workers do strike, will other trades cross the picket line?

"I don't think any of the other trades will formally authorize a strike," said Louis Coletti, president of the Building Trades Employers' Association, an umbrella group that represents contractors said Monday. "We won't know till tomorrow."

A source familiar with the matter said labor negotiations were proceeding Monday between the Cement and Concrete Workers District Council representing the concrete workers and the Cement League, a contractors' association that represents management.

"The World Trade Center site should not be held as a bargaining chip in these negotiations," Mr. Coletti said. "Despite differences, they should go to work."

The union declined to comment. Cement League officials could not be reached Monday.

Concrete workers also stopped working at One World Trade Center, slated to be a 104-story office tower, according to another person familiar with the matter. But other construction there will be able to continue for about a week or so.

Monday's work stoppage by the concrete workers union will have "no impact on construction of the 9/11 Memorial, which remains on track to open on the tenth anniversary [of the attacks], and minimal impacts on the site's other projects," said Steve Coleman, a spokesman with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

Contractors have been rushing to complete the 9/11 Memorial, and a delay in that opening could result in a public criticism for both sides.

The work stoppage forced about 600 other World Trade Center laborers to be sent home because construction could not proceed without concrete workers, Mr. Coletti added.

More than 100 workers gathered behind a police barricade set up across the street from the main entrance to the World Trade Center PATH station at West Broadway and Vesey Street, said Chris Montalbano, a concrete worker labor steward who works in the World Trade Center's new transportation hub and is also a representative with Local 6A, one of the three unions representing concrete workers.

Monday's gathering was "not really sanctioned or official," Mr. Montalbano said. If a deal is not reached and ratified, he said the workers will form a picket line Tuesday morning--"out in full force" with signs, which were absent Monday.

Unionized construction workers, including concrete workers, have signed cost-reduction deals referred to as project labor agreements for many projects around the city. These agreements generally forbid a strike. The transit hub and One World Trade Center, however, aren't covered by these agreements, so work stoppages are allowed under labor law.

Other sites around the city reported that concrete workers either showed up late for work on Monday or failed to show up at all, according to people familiar with the matter.

It's unclear how many projects were slowed due to the walkout, or how many laborers refused to work.

Concrete workers failed to show up for work at the Cornell-Weill Medical Center, which is covered by a project labor agreement. An arbitration hearing has been scheduled with the Building & Construction Trades Council of Greater New York to resolve the matter, the person said familiar with the matter said. Cornell did not respond to requests for comment.

More than two dozen union contracts expired in June. Most unions have since signed deals. In addition to cement workers, sheet metal workers still need to hammer out a new deal.

The cost of unionized labor has been a central theme in talks between contractors and the concrete workers, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Contractors want the concrete workers to accept 20% less in wages and benefits for residential construction work versus commercial work, the person said. The unions oppose that.

Concrete workers in New York earned $66.58 an hour in base pay and benefits last year, according to the Engineer New-Record, a trade publication.

"We can't afford the strike [because of the economy], but we can't afford to take a 20% pay cut," said Mr. Montalbano, the concrete worker. "If it was up to me, we should freeze our wages until the economy gets better but don't cut our wages."

That's an article from 2011. Since 2008 there's been real progress. Before that families were fighting tooth and nail about the design, memorial..and a whole lot of other nonsense that kept it from getting done. I can see the main building from my apartment.

You?

No thank god, I was stationed in Bayonne NJ in the early 80's close enough to NYC to fucking hate it, Still do. Whats your one room cock roach infested studio costing ya a month?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Concrete workers in New York earned $66.58 an hour in base pay and benefits last year, according to the Engineer New-Record, a trade publication.

That is absolutely outrageous. And New Yorkers wonder why they have to pay out the ass for services and why their state has started to stagnate.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Yup.

That's the one.

Shanghai

I haven't been there since they opened it. Looks like fun, though.

It was..until it blew up causing my firey and untimely death..

Naw..that didn't happen. And Hangzhou is pretty fucking native. Glad I didn't have to use the bathroom..

hangzhou is also pretty fucking pretty.

 

[rightwinger]

Is it still standing?

They built a wall that stood for some time

Didn't work as intended though.

Yes it did.....it still attracts tourists

 

[ekrem]

China's 'amazing' construction of a 30-story building in 360 hours - The Week

Amazing efficiency of design

There is no way in hell I'm going into that building.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Really fast-built Chinese rail system.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVwqmoSDbGQ]Aging Infrastructure in the United States - Bridge Collapse - Minnesota 2005 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Sallow]

Work Stoppage at World Trade Center - RPA Center for Urban Innovation

That's an article from 2011. Since 2008 there's been real progress. Before that families were fighting tooth and nail about the design, memorial..and a whole lot of other nonsense that kept it from getting done. I can see the main building from my apartment.

You?

The concerns of the families of victims is not "nonsense."

Call it what you want.

It delayed construction for years. The site was cleaned up and ready to be built on in weeks. Had there been no "concerns" the job would be done by now.

 

[ekrem]

China and quality are not two words that typically go together.

Engineers Give U.S. Infrastructure a 'D' Grade, $2.2 Trillion Price Tag

"In 2009, all signs point to an infrastructure that is poorly maintained, unable to meet current and future demands, and in some cases, unsafe," the engineers warn.
(...)
graded D or D-, including:
aviation, dams, hazardous waste, inland waterways, levees, roads, schools, transit and wastewater.

Nation's crumbling infrastructure endangers our future - TheHill.com
Engineers Give U.S. Infrastructure a 'D' Grade, $2.2 Trillion Price Tag

 

[Sallow]

Work Stoppage at World Trade Center - RPA Center for Urban Innovation

That's an article from 2011. Since 2008 there's been real progress. Before that families were fighting tooth and nail about the design, memorial..and a whole lot of other nonsense that kept it from getting done. I can see the main building from my apartment.

You?

No thank god, I was stationed in Bayonne NJ in the early 80's close enough to NYC to fucking hate it, Still do. Whats your one room cock roach infested studio costing ya a month?

Well it runs about 3K a month.



And it's got 2 rooms..2 floors..2 bathrooms and a terrace.