China erects 30 story hotel in 15 days

I would not underestimate the skill or intelligence of the Chinese. We did the same thing with the Japanese.

China and quality are not two words that typically go together.

There was a time when there was no way to disparage a product as much as saying "Made in Japan"

The Chinese have excellent school systems for their best and brightest. One only has to look at our own engineering and science programs to see how many are Chinese or Chinese descent. Their workers are very dedicated and detail oriented. No reason China cannot put out a quality product
 

China is just entering the industrialized era. They are still paying for their mistakes. Look at the buildings they created for the 2008 Olympics and you can see they can be cutting edge on architecture and construction.

Their biggest problem right now is the acceleration of their building projects. Cutting corners always comes with risk.
 
China is graduating an order of magnitude more engineers every year than we are. They are putting out a lot on money on basic research in many fields. And some of their companies are innovative enough that people like Buffet are putting major money into them.

It is very easy to point out the errors and shoddy products in another nation. We did that with Japan, until they ate our lunch in the automotive market.

I would very much like to see an engineering geologist's assessment of that hotel.
 
China is graduating an order of magnitude more engineers every year than we are. They are putting out a lot on money on basic research in many fields. And some of their companies are innovative enough that people like Buffet are putting major money into them.

It is very easy to point out the errors and shoddy products in another nation. We did that with Japan, until they ate our lunch in the automotive market.

I would very much like to see an engineering geologist's assessment of that hotel.

How many Chinese engineers are studying the problem of manmade global warming?
 
Bashing China out of economic insecurity or just plain racism is foolish and ignorant. Chinese folks and American folks share many qualities. We can become very effective allies as China continues to develop and eventually becomes more politically open and democratic. HOWEVER, there is no reason for blind cheerleading and failing to point out the very serious and potentially deadly weaknesses that still exist there - including what is a superficially new and shiny but ultimately inferior infrastructure. Lefties in the US and Europe were beside themselves over China's quickly built and heavily financed high speed rail system until it almost immediately proved to be fatally flawed.
 
China is graduating an order of magnitude more engineers every year than we are. They are putting out a lot on money on basic research in many fields. And some of their companies are innovative enough that people like Buffet are putting major money into them.

It is very easy to point out the errors and shoddy products in another nation. We did that with Japan, until they ate our lunch in the automotive market.

I would very much like to see an engineering geologist's assessment of that hotel.

How many Chinese engineers are studying the problem of manmade global warming?


Lots and lots and lots of folks in China are studying environmental issues.
 
China is graduating an order of magnitude more engineers every year than we are. They are putting out a lot on money on basic research in many fields. And some of their companies are innovative enough that people like Buffet are putting major money into them.

It is very easy to point out the errors and shoddy products in another nation. We did that with Japan, until they ate our lunch in the automotive market.

I would very much like to see an engineering geologist's assessment of that hotel.

How many Chinese engineers are studying the problem of manmade global warming?

http://nationalacademies.org/onpi/06072005.pdf

Climate change is real
There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is
occurring1. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes
to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)2. This warming has already
led to changes in the Earth's climate.

The existence of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere is vital to life on Earth – in their absence average temperatures would be about 30 centigrade degrees lower
than they are today. But human activities are now causing atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases – including carbon dioxide, methane, tropospheric ozone, and nitrous oxide – to rise well above pre-industrial levels. Carbon dioxide levels have increased from 280 ppm in 1750 to over 375 ppm today – higher than any previous levels that can be reliably measured (i.e. in the last 420,000 years). Increasing greenhouse gases are causing temperatures to rise; the Earth’s surface warmed by approximately 0.6 centigrade degrees over the twentieth century. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
(IPCC) projected that the average global surface temperatures will continue to increase to between 1.4 Centigrade degrees and 5.8 centigrade degrees above 1990
levels, by 2100.


Academia Brasiliera de Ciências
Royal Society of Canada,
Chinese Academy of Sciences,
 
Bashing China out of economic insecurity or just plain racism is foolish and ignorant. Chinese folks and American folks share many qualities. We can become very effective allies as China continues to develop and eventually becomes more politically open and democratic. HOWEVER, there is no reason for blind cheerleading and failing to point out the very serious and potentially deadly weaknesses that still exist there - including what is a superficially new and shiny but ultimately inferior infrastructure. Lefties in the US and Europe were beside themselves over China's quickly built and heavily financed high speed rail system until it almost immediately proved to be fatally flawed.

Is it being scrapped, or upgraded and fixed?

I have worked on many rebuilding projects where a company chose the low bid, and the machinery reflected that fact, and had to be rebuilt in order to function in a manner that was profitable.

And still the managers of the company brag about the bargain they made on the machinery, rather than looking at the fact that they paid a time and an half what the good machinery would have cost by the time we fixed it so the machinery would do what was needed. Managers of whatever nationality do this.
 
See what's possible with no unions and no bureaucracies......

:lol: And no regulations, no safety, no pesky shop owners complaining about dust and noise, no landowners that won't sell to you...

Life is fun when your government is Totalitarian..eh?
 
Bashing China out of economic insecurity or just plain racism is foolish and ignorant. Chinese folks and American folks share many qualities. We can become very effective allies as China continues to develop and eventually becomes more politically open and democratic. HOWEVER, there is no reason for blind cheerleading and failing to point out the very serious and potentially deadly weaknesses that still exist there - including what is a superficially new and shiny but ultimately inferior infrastructure. Lefties in the US and Europe were beside themselves over China's quickly built and heavily financed high speed rail system until it almost immediately proved to be fatally flawed.

Which high speed rail system? I rode on the maglev..seemed fine.
 

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