Children of Gays Oppose Gay Marriage

[bodecea]

The Court, in New Orleans, La., heard arguments on Jan. 9 as it considers whether to uphold traditional marriage – defined as being between one man and one woman -- in Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi.

B.N. Klein, Robert Oscar Lopez, Dawn Stefanowicz, and Katy Faust all grew up with homosexual parents. All four argued that redefining marriage to include same-sex couples would harm children by depriving them of a mother or father.

In her brief, Dawn Stefanowicz described her experience living in a same-sex household.

“I wasn’t surrounded by average heterosexual couples,” she says in her court brief. “Dad’s partners slept and ate in our home, and they took me along to meeting places in the LGBT communities. I was exposed to overt sexual activities like sodomy, nudity, pornography, group sex, sadomasochism and the ilk.”

“There was no guarantee that any of my Dad’s partners would be around for long, and yet I often had to obey them,” she said. “My rights and innocence were violated.”

“As children, we are not allowed to express our disagreement, pain and confusion,” Stefanowicz explained. “Most adult children from gay households do not feel safe or free to publicly express their stories and life-long challenges; they fear losing professional licenses, not obtaining employment in their chosen field, being cut off from some family members or losing whatever relationship they have with their gay parent(s). Some gay parents have threatened to leave no inheritance, if the children don’t accept their parent’s partner du jour.”

“I grew up with a parent and her partner in an atmosphere in which gay ideology was used as a tool of repression, retribution and abuse,” B.N. Klein wrote of her experience with a lesbian mother. “I have seen that children in gay households often become props to be publicly displayed to prove that gay families are just like heterosexual ones.”

Klein said she was taught that “some Jews and most Christians were stupid and hated gays and were violent,” and that homosexuals were “much more creative and artistic” because they were not repressed and were naturally more ‘feeling.’”

“At the same time I was given the message that if I did not agree (which I did not), I was stupid and damned to a life of punishing hostility from my mother and her partner,” she recounts. “They did this with the encouragement of all their gay friends in the community and they were like a cheering squad. I was only allowed out of my room to go to school. This could go on for weeks.”

“I was supposed to hate everyone based on what they thought of my mother and her partner,” said Klein. “People’s accomplishments did not matter, their personal struggles did not matter, and their own histories were of no consequence. The only thing that mattered was what they thought of gays.”

Robert Oscar Lopez who was also raised by a lesbian mother and her partner, had a different experience which he described as the “best possible conditions for a child raised by a same-sex couple.”

“Had I been formally studied by same-sex parenting ‘experts’ in 1985, I would have confirmed their rosiest estimations of LGBT family life,” Lopez wrote, but then went on to argue against same-sex marriage saying that, “behind these facades of a happy ‘outcome’ lay many problems.”

He describes experiencing a great deal of sexual confusion due to the lack of a father figure in his life. He turned to a life of prostitution with older men as a teenager.

“I had an inexplicable compulsion to have sex with older males,” he recounted, saying he “wanted to have sex with older men who were my father’s age, though at the time I could scarcely understand what I was doing.”

“The money I received for sex certainly helped me financially because it allowed me certain spending money beyond what I earned with my teenage jobs at a pizzeria and in my mother’s [psychiatric] clinic,” he states in the brief. “But the money was not as impactful as the fact that I needed to feel loved and wanted by an older male figure, even if for only as short as a half hour.”

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The glass isn't always half full.

Why did you leave the word "Some" off the beginning of your thread title?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Gay marriage is legal in all 50 states and it isn't going away. Deal with it.

The only people it seems to bother is the religious nutzies...

... and, apparently, the children of gay couples.

Gays have absolutely no business adopting children. None

 

[bodecea]

Gay marriage is legal in all 50 states and it isn't going away. Deal with it.

The only people it seems to bother is the religious nutzies...

... and, apparently, the children of gay couples.

You left the word "some" off again. Intentional?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Gay marriage is legal in all 50 states and it isn't going away. Deal with it.

It's pretend marriage. Deal with it

No, I'm pretty sure it's the real thing.

You guaranteed me Trump would never win...how'd that work out?

You need to get past yourself

SSM marriage is in no sense comparable to traditional marriage....not even in the ballpark

You saying it's not doesn't make it so. Adam and Steve are as married as Adam and Eve. That's a fact you cannot honestly dispute and the law is on their side. Your bigotry is irrelevant.

You saying doesn't make it so either. Again...get past yourself

I'm not saying it. The law has in all 50 states. Your side lost. Move on.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

It's pretend marriage. Deal with it

No, I'm pretty sure it's the real thing.

You guaranteed me Trump would never win...how'd that work out?

You need to get past yourself

SSM marriage is in no sense comparable to traditional marriage....not even in the ballpark

You saying it's not doesn't make it so. Adam and Steve are as married as Adam and Eve. That's a fact you cannot honestly dispute and the law is on their side. Your bigotry is irrelevant.

You saying doesn't make it so either. Again...get past yourself

I'm not saying it. The law has in all 50 states. Your side lost. Move on.

You just did say it...but you say a lot and most of it means little.

SSM is pretend marriage...nothing more and nothing less.

 

[bodecea]

Gay marriage is legal in all 50 states and it isn't going away. Deal with it.

The only people it seems to bother is the religious nutzies...

... and, apparently, the children of gay couples.

Gays have absolutely no business adopting children. None

Too late......at least for the most part we know not to leave them in the clutches of religious predators.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Gay marriage is legal in all 50 states and it isn't going away. Deal with it.

The only people it seems to bother is the religious nutzies...

... and, apparently, the children of gay couples.

Gays have absolutely no business adopting children. None

I would argue you have no businesses adopting children and poisoning their minds with hatred and bigotry.

 

[bodecea]

Gay marriage is legal in all 50 states and it isn't going away. Deal with it.

It's pretend marriage. Deal with it

It's as pretend marriage as much as any other marriage is pretend.....particularly those pretend religious marriages.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Gay marriage is legal in all 50 states and it isn't going away. Deal with it.

The only people it seems to bother is the religious nutzies...

... and, apparently, the children of gay couples.

Gays have absolutely no business adopting children. None

I would argue you have no businesses adopting children and poisoning their minds with hatred and bigotry.

Argue it all you want. Your musings mean very little to me.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

SSM is pretend marriage...nothing more and nothing less.

The law and the courts say otherwise, but what ever helps you sleep at night, snowflake.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

SSM is pretend marriage...nothing more and nothing less.

The law and the courts say otherwise, but what ever helps you sleep at night, snowflake.

Depends on who's law....girly boy

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

SSM is pretend marriage...nothing more and nothing less.

The law and the courts say otherwise, but what ever helps you sleep at night, snowflake.

Depends on who's law....girly boy

If you're in the USA and several other nations it's your law and mine.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

SSM is pretend marriage...nothing more and nothing less.

The law and the courts say otherwise, but what ever helps you sleep at night, snowflake.

Depends on who's law....girly boy

If you're in the USA and several other nations it's your law and mine.

Not my law...but keep trying, Nancy Boy

 

[Spare_change]

The Court, in New Orleans, La., heard arguments on Jan. 9 as it considers whether to uphold traditional marriage – defined as being between one man and one woman -- in Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi.

B.N. Klein, Robert Oscar Lopez, Dawn Stefanowicz, and Katy Faust all grew up with homosexual parents. All four argued that redefining marriage to include same-sex couples would harm children by depriving them of a mother or father.

In her brief, Dawn Stefanowicz described her experience living in a same-sex household.

“I wasn’t surrounded by average heterosexual couples,” she says in her court brief. “Dad’s partners slept and ate in our home, and they took me along to meeting places in the LGBT communities. I was exposed to overt sexual activities like sodomy, nudity, pornography, group sex, sadomasochism and the ilk.”

“There was no guarantee that any of my Dad’s partners would be around for long, and yet I often had to obey them,” she said. “My rights and innocence were violated.”

“As children, we are not allowed to express our disagreement, pain and confusion,” Stefanowicz explained. “Most adult children from gay households do not feel safe or free to publicly express their stories and life-long challenges; they fear losing professional licenses, not obtaining employment in their chosen field, being cut off from some family members or losing whatever relationship they have with their gay parent(s). Some gay parents have threatened to leave no inheritance, if the children don’t accept their parent’s partner du jour.”

“I grew up with a parent and her partner in an atmosphere in which gay ideology was used as a tool of repression, retribution and abuse,” B.N. Klein wrote of her experience with a lesbian mother. “I have seen that children in gay households often become props to be publicly displayed to prove that gay families are just like heterosexual ones.”

Klein said she was taught that “some Jews and most Christians were stupid and hated gays and were violent,” and that homosexuals were “much more creative and artistic” because they were not repressed and were naturally more ‘feeling.’”

“At the same time I was given the message that if I did not agree (which I did not), I was stupid and damned to a life of punishing hostility from my mother and her partner,” she recounts. “They did this with the encouragement of all their gay friends in the community and they were like a cheering squad. I was only allowed out of my room to go to school. This could go on for weeks.”

“I was supposed to hate everyone based on what they thought of my mother and her partner,” said Klein. “People’s accomplishments did not matter, their personal struggles did not matter, and their own histories were of no consequence. The only thing that mattered was what they thought of gays.”

Robert Oscar Lopez who was also raised by a lesbian mother and her partner, had a different experience which he described as the “best possible conditions for a child raised by a same-sex couple.”

“Had I been formally studied by same-sex parenting ‘experts’ in 1985, I would have confirmed their rosiest estimations of LGBT family life,” Lopez wrote, but then went on to argue against same-sex marriage saying that, “behind these facades of a happy ‘outcome’ lay many problems.”

He describes experiencing a great deal of sexual confusion due to the lack of a father figure in his life. He turned to a life of prostitution with older men as a teenager.

“I had an inexplicable compulsion to have sex with older males,” he recounted, saying he “wanted to have sex with older men who were my father’s age, though at the time I could scarcely understand what I was doing.”

“The money I received for sex certainly helped me financially because it allowed me certain spending money beyond what I earned with my teenage jobs at a pizzeria and in my mother’s [psychiatric] clinic,” he states in the brief. “But the money was not as impactful as the fact that I needed to feel loved and wanted by an older male figure, even if for only as short as a half hour.”

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The glass isn't always half full.

Why did you leave the word "Some" off the beginning of your thread title?

If you are so insecure in your position that you feel a qualifier is necessary in order to assuage your wounded perception of reality, you're probably not going to understand that the title of threads is written in order to attract readers to the subject. For the best example ---- see www.cnn.com and watch the actual connectivity between the headline and the story content.

Their article, in the first three paragraphs, said this:

Washington (CNN)The FBI rejected a recent White House request to publicly knock down media reports about communications between Donald Trump's associates and Russians known to US intelligence during the 2016 presidential campaign, multiple US officials briefed on the matter tell CNN.

But a White House official said late Thursday that the request was only made after the FBI indicated to the White House it did not believe the reporting to be accurate.

White House officials had sought the help of the bureau and other agencies investigating the Russia matter to say that the reports were wrong and that there had been no contacts, the officials said. The reports of the contacts were first published by The New York Times and CNN on February 14.

The headline???

FBI refused White House request to knock down recent Trump-Russia stories

See how it's done? And, you wonder why CNN was blocked from WH press briefings?

 

[bodecea]

Gay marriage is legal in all 50 states and it isn't going away. Deal with it.

The only people it seems to bother is the religious nutzies...

Well, you know. They aren't happy unless they are: a) forcing others to follow their rules or b) crying persecution because they aren't allowed to force others to follow their rules.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

SSM is pretend marriage...nothing more and nothing less.

The law and the courts say otherwise, but what ever helps you sleep at night, snowflake.

Depends on who's law....girly boy

If you're in the USA and several other nations it's your law and mine.

Not my law...but keep trying, Nancy Boy

Sure it is. I suppose you could always renounce your citizenship.

 

[bodecea]

The Court, in New Orleans, La., heard arguments on Jan. 9 as it considers whether to uphold traditional marriage – defined as being between one man and one woman -- in Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi.

B.N. Klein, Robert Oscar Lopez, Dawn Stefanowicz, and Katy Faust all grew up with homosexual parents. All four argued that redefining marriage to include same-sex couples would harm children by depriving them of a mother or father.

In her brief, Dawn Stefanowicz described her experience living in a same-sex household.

“I wasn’t surrounded by average heterosexual couples,” she says in her court brief. “Dad’s partners slept and ate in our home, and they took me along to meeting places in the LGBT communities. I was exposed to overt sexual activities like sodomy, nudity, pornography, group sex, sadomasochism and the ilk.”

“There was no guarantee that any of my Dad’s partners would be around for long, and yet I often had to obey them,” she said. “My rights and innocence were violated.”

“As children, we are not allowed to express our disagreement, pain and confusion,” Stefanowicz explained. “Most adult children from gay households do not feel safe or free to publicly express their stories and life-long challenges; they fear losing professional licenses, not obtaining employment in their chosen field, being cut off from some family members or losing whatever relationship they have with their gay parent(s). Some gay parents have threatened to leave no inheritance, if the children don’t accept their parent’s partner du jour.”

“I grew up with a parent and her partner in an atmosphere in which gay ideology was used as a tool of repression, retribution and abuse,” B.N. Klein wrote of her experience with a lesbian mother. “I have seen that children in gay households often become props to be publicly displayed to prove that gay families are just like heterosexual ones.”

Klein said she was taught that “some Jews and most Christians were stupid and hated gays and were violent,” and that homosexuals were “much more creative and artistic” because they were not repressed and were naturally more ‘feeling.’”

“At the same time I was given the message that if I did not agree (which I did not), I was stupid and damned to a life of punishing hostility from my mother and her partner,” she recounts. “They did this with the encouragement of all their gay friends in the community and they were like a cheering squad. I was only allowed out of my room to go to school. This could go on for weeks.”

“I was supposed to hate everyone based on what they thought of my mother and her partner,” said Klein. “People’s accomplishments did not matter, their personal struggles did not matter, and their own histories were of no consequence. The only thing that mattered was what they thought of gays.”

Robert Oscar Lopez who was also raised by a lesbian mother and her partner, had a different experience which he described as the “best possible conditions for a child raised by a same-sex couple.”

“Had I been formally studied by same-sex parenting ‘experts’ in 1985, I would have confirmed their rosiest estimations of LGBT family life,” Lopez wrote, but then went on to argue against same-sex marriage saying that, “behind these facades of a happy ‘outcome’ lay many problems.”

He describes experiencing a great deal of sexual confusion due to the lack of a father figure in his life. He turned to a life of prostitution with older men as a teenager.

“I had an inexplicable compulsion to have sex with older males,” he recounted, saying he “wanted to have sex with older men who were my father’s age, though at the time I could scarcely understand what I was doing.”

“The money I received for sex certainly helped me financially because it allowed me certain spending money beyond what I earned with my teenage jobs at a pizzeria and in my mother’s [psychiatric] clinic,” he states in the brief. “But the money was not as impactful as the fact that I needed to feel loved and wanted by an older male figure, even if for only as short as a half hour.”

------------------------------------------------------------------
The glass isn't always half full.

Why did you leave the word "Some" off the beginning of your thread title?

If you are so insecure in your position that you feel a qualifier is necessary in order to assuage your wounded perception of reality, you're probably not going to understand that the title of threads is written in order to attract readers to the subject. For the best example ---- see www.cnn.com and watch the actual connectivity between the headline and the story content.

Their article, in the first three paragraphs, said this:

Washington (CNN)The FBI rejected a recent White House request to publicly knock down media reports about communications between Donald Trump's associates and Russians known to US intelligence during the 2016 presidential campaign, multiple US officials briefed on the matter tell CNN.

But a White House official said late Thursday that the request was only made after the FBI indicated to the White House it did not believe the reporting to be accurate.

White House officials had sought the help of the bureau and other agencies investigating the Russia matter to say that the reports were wrong and that there had been no contacts, the officials said. The reports of the contacts were first published by The New York Times and CNN on February 14.

The headline???

FBI refused White House request to knock down recent Trump-Russia stories

See how it's done? And, you wonder why CNN was blocked from WH press briefings?

So, nice dodge on your part. Are you always this dishonest with the English language?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

SSM is pretend marriage...nothing more and nothing less.

The law and the courts say otherwise, but what ever helps you sleep at night, snowflake.

Depends on who's law....girly boy

If you're in the USA and several other nations it's your law and mine.

Not my law...but keep trying, Nancy Boy

Sure it is. I suppose you could always renounce your citizenship.

Or to view it as a pretend marriage. Which it is.

 

[Spare_change]

Gay marriage is legal in all 50 states and it isn't going away. Deal with it.

The only people it seems to bother is the religious nutzies...

Well, you know. They aren't happy unless they are: a) forcing others to follow their rules or b) crying persecution because they aren't allowed to force others to follow their rules.

UBS

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The law and the courts say otherwise, but what ever helps you sleep at night, snowflake.

Depends on who's law....girly boy

If you're in the USA and several other nations it's your law and mine.

Not my law...but keep trying, Nancy Boy

Sure it is. I suppose you could always renounce your citizenship.

Or to view it as a pretend marriage. Which it is.

You can view it anyway you want, but that won't make it true.