'Children Must be Taught to Hate'... Or No?

[hvywgt250]

We hear this all the time from the liberals "children are color blind... you have to be taught to hate..."

Eh, not so much.

Do kids prefer playmates of same ethnicity?

You are looking for any excuse and justification to hate, aren't you? What is wrong with you? Sorry, I just think it is so stupid to sit here and look for expert opinions as to why are supposed to hate, because children hate. Get a fucking life.

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In his book: Why We Hate, Author Rush W. Dozer, Jr. writes the following:


SCIENTIFIC INSIGHTS INTO THE

NATURE OF OUR EMOTIONS



HATE IS THE NUCLEAR WEAPON of the mind. Its detonation can blow apart the social order and plunge nations into war and genocide. It shatters relationships, leading people who once loved each other into bitterness, violence, even murder. Blasts of hate sweep away civility and tolerance, spurring individuals to commit acts of savagery and pitting group against group in combat that can grow vicious and deadly. Hate poisons the workplace. It warps the minds of children, who are defenseless against its destructive influence, and this allows it to reproduce itself generation after generation. Hate can undermine our health by stressing the heart, raising the blood pressure, suppressing the immune system, and damaging the brain. As self-hatred, it can insidiously create a negative self-perception that robs life of its pleasure, leading to depression and even suicide.

In the name of hate, human beings carry out the most shocking and repulsive acts imaginable. These unspeakable acts go by many different names: oppression, torture, genocide--and terrorism. What the entire world witnessed on September 11, 2001, was only the latest horrific episode of hate-inspired violence. Like all such acts, hate-filled terrorism emerges from primitive areas of the human brain buried deep the more recently evolved layers and from years of cultural conditioning that pits groups in an us-versus-them battle for survival.

Over the past five centuries, hate has periodically ravaged Western civilization, leading to bloodier and bloodier conflicts. At the end of the Renaissance, wars of religion ripped Europe apart. At the end of the Enlightenment, the Napoleonic Wars spread across large parts of the globe. The twentieth century was disfigured by seventy-five years of ferocious hot and cold world wars that began in Sarajevo on June 28, 1914, with a terrorist's assassination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand and his wife, Sophis, of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and did not end until the Berlin Wall fell on November 9, 1989. Now, after a lull of fewer than twelve years, this hideous cycle may be starting agin. It is not enough to root hatred out of the caves of Afghanistan, we must root it out of the human mind.

 

[editec]

Children take on the attitudes, the likes or dislikes, the prejudices or the favoritisms of the community around them without anyone having to "teach" them to love or hate

Racism seems a pretty universal human failing though. Leave some eastern europeans alone and all of a sudden they can tell eachother apart and we are there policing the place.

Yes, ethnocentrism is built into the human character, without doubt.

And taken in small doses loving ones ethnic or tribe or culture is a good thing.

Taken to extremes however, such love of ones people (however you define your people) turns out to be a bad thing.

 

[William Joyce]

Yes, ethnocentrism is built into the human character, without doubt.

And taken in small doses loving ones ethnic or tribe or culture is a good thing.

Taken to extremes however, such love of ones people (however you define your people) turns out to be a bad thing.

I'll grant there's a spectrum between "good" ethnocentrism and "bad" ethnocentrism.

I think what we should all strive for is the right balance.

But right now, the balance is WAY out of whack. The meter is set so that NO part of ethnocentrism is accepted -- except for anyone who isn't white. We are in seriously bizarre territory right now with political correctness. Whites are ashamed to find themselves in a group. They need to have a non-white person in there to "color it up" and feel good. No other group is like that. You never hear a group of Hispanics say, "You know, we just aren't legitimate until we have a few whites in here..."

 

[William Joyce]

We hear this all the time from the liberals "children are color blind... you have to be taught to hate..."

Eh, not so much.

Do kids prefer playmates of same ethnicity?

I believe "racism" is natural. A process of evolution. An attempt to help pass on if not our genes then the genetics of those most like us.

We also have a healthy fear of the unknown in us.

IMO like murdering a man competing with you for substinance, racism is something we should use our brains to outgrow. Then again we are not that far ahead of the monkeys.

Now William, tell them it isnt so and you did not post this because you are racist or are saying racism is ok.

I mean if you are do not be shy or lie about it. If so, just admit it and say you tell your kids racism is one of your failing.

One if my failings is not listening enough to my mother. Always want to get off the phone too quick. Will probably have to work on that the rest of my life.

William?

What I am saying is that 99 percent of what we call "racism" is TOTALLY HEALTHY, NATURAL, GOOD, BLESSED BY THE LORD, EVOLUTIONARILY CREATED, and SWEET ICE CREAM.

Seriously.

I am not suggesting that there be wanton violence toward other groups. I believe we actually SHOULD strive for co-existence, but in racially separate lands, the way it was for EONS before slavery.

The "multiracialism" of America is a doomed project. It is basically our version of Soviet communism. Communism didn't work because they were trying to force an ideal on human nature that human nature wouldn't accept. Result?

Total failure.

The free market proved to work better because it took a fuller accounting for the immovables of human nature.

That isn't to say that the free market doesn't have extremes that should be curbed. It does. I support a lot of them, including some type of welfare.

But on race, we're essentially trying to live like communists.

It will break.

"Racism" is no more something we'll grow out of than the need for food and the desire for sex.

But as you see, sex and food are also drives we've managed to curb a little.

But nobody suggests trying to GET RID of these things altogether.

Hope this makes sense.

 

[Toronado3800]

We hear this all the time from the liberals "children are color blind... you have to be taught to hate..."

Eh, not so much.

Do kids prefer playmates of same ethnicity?

I believe "racism" is natural. A process of evolution. An attempt to help pass on if not our genes then the genetics of those most like us.

We also have a healthy fear of the unknown in us.

IMO like murdering a man competing with you for substinance, racism is something we should use our brains to outgrow. Then again we are not that far ahead of the monkeys.

Now William, tell them it isnt so and you did not post this because you are racist or are saying racism is ok.

I mean if you are do not be shy or lie about it. If so, just admit it and say you tell your kids racism is one of your failing.

One if my failings is not listening enough to my mother. Always want to get off the phone too quick. Will probably have to work on that the rest of my life.

William?

What I am saying is that 99 percent of what we call "racism" is TOTALLY HEALTHY, NATURAL, GOOD, BLESSED BY THE LORD, EVOLUTIONARILY CREATED, and SWEET ICE CREAM.

Seriously.

I am not suggesting that there be wanton violence toward other groups. I believe we actually SHOULD strive for co-existence, but in racially separate lands, the way it was for EONS before slavery.

The "multiracialism" of America is a doomed project. It is basically our version of Soviet communism. Communism didn't work because they were trying to force an ideal on human nature that human nature wouldn't accept. Result?

Total failure.

The free market proved to work better because it took a fuller accounting for the immovables of human nature.

That isn't to say that the free market doesn't have extremes that should be curbed. It does. I support a lot of them, including some type of welfare.

But on race, we're essentially trying to live like communists.

It will break.

"Racism" is no more something we'll grow out of than the need for food and the desire for sex.

But as you see, sex and food are also drives we've managed to curb a little.

But nobody suggests trying to GET RID of these things altogether.

Hope this makes sense.

What do you believe are the differences in the races William? How many races do you believe in? Are Jews seperate from Germans? Blacks from Native Americans? Chinese from Hawaiians?

What do you think the differences are and why?

 

[Toronado3800]

Once again, dont be shy. I will confess in August of 45 I would have displayed the power of nuclear bombs over at least one German city then given the whole country to Stalin once I allowed the Jews to leave.

 

[Wiseacre]

The power to hate, like the power to love, is taught. No baby is born hating something or someone, it's a learned response to that which is unfamiliar and perhaps dangerous. One might say that we have an instinct to be cautious in the company of strangers, especially those who are different in some way. That might be genetic, but how we express or deal with it is taught.

 

[xsited1]

'Children Must be Taught to Hate'... Or No?

Kids have to be taught to be good. Some more than others. Everyone with kids knows that.

Good doesn't make any sense. They have to be taught how to get along with people, and not to be selfish.
...

So they have to be taught to be good.

 

[William Joyce]

What do you believe are the differences in the races William? How many races do you believe in? Are Jews seperate from Germans? Blacks from Native Americans? Chinese from Hawaiians?

What do you think the differences are and why?

I do believe that races exist. We understand this on a purely observational level -- nobody has trouble figuring out that O.J. Simpson is "black" and Chris Matthews is "white". But it also exists on a genetic level -- in other words, it's not just "skin color", as we so often hear.

A race is essentially a very large extended genetic family. They evolved in geographically isolated areas (isolated FROM OTHER RACES, not isolated physically, like an island, although the two concepts are interrelated) over a period of thousands of years to develop similar physical and mental traits.

Plenty has been written on this: Race, Evolution and Behavior by J. Philippe Rushton is a good example, "Race" by John Baker is another, and "Race: The Reality of Human Differences" by Sarich and Miele is another. The three "biggies" racially are Caucasian, Asian and African, as these men discuss it. Others are subsets or clinal populations or recent creations like Hispanic (mix of Asian and some white).

Jews are a Caucasian subset that has developed in genetic isolation over many centuries, to the point that you do see intra-group loyalty, out-group hostility, common physical and mental traits, etc.

Blacks, for instance, have lower IQ's than whites, and I believe this is evolutionary: white evolved in colder northern climates where they needed long-term thinking and brain power to survive, so, they got smarter. Blacks always had fruits right there, year round, so they never had to develop the strength to think far into the future. Northern Asians, by contrast, evolved in even colder climates, so they ended up with higher IQ's than whites.

The problem for integration is obvious: insist on "equality" for two unequal groups, and disaster is the result.

My basic motivation is the realization that the white racial group (European/Caucasian) is being out-bred, out-muscled and out-thought. America is being overrun with non-whites, who have basically tricked us into feeling sorry for them. We're giving up our nation and race on grounds that make no sense. We've been convinced that we whites are the "bad guys" and that we must hand over the keys to the kingdom WE built. We've stopped having children the world over. We should make a stand, is my belief. Not because of "hate" or irrational fear, but because every group rightfully and naturally should defend itself and make a life for itself in this world.

No other group is denied this right. Jews may, blacks may, Asians may... why not whites?

 

[José]

Originally posted by William Joyce
I do believe that races exist. We understand this on a purely observational level -- nobody has trouble figuring out that O.J. Simpson is "black" and Chris Matthews is "white". But it also exists on a genetic level -- in other words, it's not just "skin color", as we so often hear.

A race is essentially a very large extended genetic family. They evolved in geographically isolated areas (isolated FROM OTHER RACES, not isolated physically, like an island, although the two concepts are interrelated) over a period of thousands of years to develop similar physical and mental traits.

Plenty has been written on this: Race, Evolution and Behavior by J. Philippe Rushton is a good example, "Race" by John Baker is another, and "Race: The Reality of Human Differences" by Sarich and Miele is another. The three "biggies" racially are Caucasian, Asian and African, as these men discuss it. Others are subsets or clinal populations or recent creations like Hispanic (mix of Asian and some white).

Jews are a Caucasian subset that has developed in genetic isolation over many centuries, to the point that you do see intra-group loyalty, out-group hostility, common physical and mental traits, etc.

Blacks, for instance, have lower IQ's than whites, and I believe this is evolutionary: white evolved in colder northern climates where they needed long-term thinking and brain power to survive, so, they got smarter. Blacks always had fruits right there, year round, so they never had to develop the strength to think far into the future. Northern Asians, by contrast, evolved in even colder climates, so they ended up with higher IQ's than whites.

The problem for integration is obvious: insist on "equality" for two unequal groups, and disaster is the result.

My basic motivation is the realization that the white racial group (European/Caucasian) is being out-bred, out-muscled and out-thought. America is being overrun with non-whites, who have basically tricked us into feeling sorry for them. We're giving up our nation and race on grounds that make no sense. We've been convinced that we whites are the "bad guys" and that we must hand over the keys to the kingdom WE built. We've stopped having children the world over. We should make a stand, is my belief. Not because of "hate" or irrational fear, but because every group rightfully and naturally should defend itself and make a life for itself in this world.

No other group is denied this right. Jews may, blacks may, Asians may... why not whites?

Make up your mind, Joyce:

Blacks have lower IQ's than whites... non-whites tricked whites into feeling sorry for them

Blacks have lower IQ's than whites... non-whites tricked whites into feeling sorry for them

Blacks have lower IQ's than whites... non-whites tricked whites

Blacks have lower IQ's than whites... non-whites tricked whites

Blacks have lower IQ's than whites... non-whites tricked whites

 

[brono921]

"Hate" comes into it when you FORCE groups together

Then, by your reckoning, affirmative action is bad?

 

[High_Gravity]

Jose makes a good point, if Blacks have lower IQ's how could they trick whites into anything?