Chicken Little...

Israel can't leave something that doesn't exist, of course.
Can you provide a link for your assertion? It seems to me that the world's nations save AIPAC Controlled America's Veto have already defacto recognized Palestine.
The now-dead palestine, or today's palistan, doesn't matter - where're it's borders? Nowhere. Where's it's land? Nowhere. But the world's nations may dream, of course. That's allright. There was a dreamer in the Kremlin too. What the world's nations should be doing is participating in the humanitarian relocation of palistanians from the danger zone, of course.

doc mauser, very german sounding and so apropos.
 
fret not THE COMING OF THE CALIPHATE will end all problems ask erdogan and achmadinejad

after that EVERYONE's GRANDCHILDREN WILL GROW UP
under communism ask kruschev and pol pot
and mao

most of all---DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES and Pax ROMANA
 
"I believe the truth must be stated: The international community is not placing a clear red line for Iran and Iran does not see international resolve to stop its nuclear programme," Netanyahu told his cabinet.
Neither does the international community bother to take care of palistanians by undertaking a coordinated humanitarian transfer of the latter out of and away from the danger zone.

Israel needs to leave Palestine and take its danger zone with it.
There's nowhere else to go, Tinmore. Why would you suddenly demand that people whose families have continuously lived in Israel for thousands of years suddenly be cast out now.
 
Neither does the international community bother to take care of palistanians by undertaking a coordinated humanitarian transfer of the latter out of and away from the danger zone.

Israel needs to leave Palestine and take its danger zone with it.
There's nowhere else to go, Tinmore. Why would you suddenly demand that people whose families have continuously lived in Israel for thousands of years suddenly be cast out now.

Can you post a link of the people who lived there for thousands of years vs. the Muslims?

Share the Land and form somekind of one state Federation or share Jerusalem in a two state solution, or constant war footing?

Its Israel's choice.
 
Are there people here who support the idea that people who have lived in an area of the world for ----PERIOD OF TIME (to be determined) have land rights in that area of the world? The idea that if people LIVED THERE FOR
________ YEARS historically-----then they are the ones with the RIGHTS to that land Anyone of you out there want to state your PARAMETERS?
 
Are there people here who support the idea that people who have lived in an area of the world for ----PERIOD OF TIME (to be determined) have land rights in that area of the world? The idea that if people LIVED THERE FOR
________ YEARS historically-----then they are the ones with the RIGHTS to that land Anyone of you out there want to state your PARAMETERS?

Forget passed generations or a religion, Anyone born in an area has the right to live there, Immigrants born outside the area are tolerated if they conform to the laws of the area
 
Forget passed generations or a religion, Anyone born in an area has the right to live there, ...
Palistanians, booted out of Kuwait and the Saudi Arabia will be happy to read that, of course, together with those, propelled out of Jordan by Hussein.
 
Neither does the international community bother to take care of palistanians by undertaking a coordinated humanitarian transfer of the latter out of and away from the danger zone.

Israel needs to leave Palestine and take its danger zone with it.
There's nowhere else to go, Tinmore. Why would you suddenly demand that people whose families have continuously lived in Israel for thousands of years suddenly be cast out now.

The natives have the right to stay.

The European immigrants not so much.
 
Forget passed generations or a religion, Anyone born in an area has the right to live there, ...
Palistanians, booted out of Kuwait and the Saudi Arabia will be happy to read that, of course, together with those, propelled out of Jordan by Hussein.


The "right" to "LIVE" there. Do all those people who have a "right to live there" have a right to full citizenship "RIGHTS' equal to the other members of the population "born there"?? Today---on rare occassion ----a non muslim is born in saudi arabia Would that person ----if say he were born to a HINDU MOTHER have a right to build a HINDU TEMPLE in Saudi arabia? When I go back to the shariah adherent country in which my husband was born-----with him Will we have the RIGHT to own land? -----or do we already own it since his family had been there for more than 1000 years?
 
The natives have the right to stay. The European immigrants not so much.
Which is why it pays to remember Winnie Churchill "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the jewish population."
The "zionist plantation" was so sweet that major arab illegal immigrants were tearing their camel gearboxes to try and have a piece of it, of course.
 
Are there people here who support the idea that people who have lived in an area of the world for ----PERIOD OF TIME (to be determined) have land rights in that area of the world? The idea that if people LIVED THERE FOR
________ YEARS historically-----then they are the ones with the RIGHTS to that land Anyone of you out there want to state your PARAMETERS?

Interesting thought.

Officially, all the people whose normal residence was inside the borders that were defined in 1922 were considered "natives."

Some would want a cutoff date before that time. How far back would you want to go? 50 years? 100 years? 1000 years? How would that time be determined and why?

Would that cutoff date apply to everyone?
 
Are there people here who support the idea that people who have lived in an area of the world for ----PERIOD OF TIME (to be determined) have land rights in that area of the world? The idea that if people LIVED THERE FOR
________ YEARS historically-----then they are the ones with the RIGHTS to that land Anyone of you out there want to state your PARAMETERS?

Interesting thought.

Officially, all the people whose normal residence was inside the borders that were defined in 1922 were considered "natives."

Some would want a cutoff date before that time. How far back would you want to go? 50 years? 100 years? 1000 years? How would that time be determined and why?

Would that cutoff date apply to everyone?


I am seeking a UNIFORMING PRINCIPLE in order to establish fairness and equity

Obviously---the further back we establish the cutoff date----the more FAIR the distribution of the world's populations would be since so doing would precede INVASIONS.
We have the tools to wit DNA SEQUENCING to establish patterns of migrations A problem does present itself in reference to -----MARRIAGE ---but someting can be "worked out"
 

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