Chicago woman denied citizenship for her kids....

[ABikerSailor]

A couple of weeks ago, I started a thread on the personhood bill and what kind of effect it would have on American citizens who got invitro fertilization outside of the US, and what kind of problems a person might encounter.

Guess what................it's happened for real........................

A pair of twin girls may have come from the womb of a Chicago native, but in the eyes of the government, they are children without a country.

Ellie Lavi, an American citizen living in Israel, wanted her children to be American as well, despite the fact that they were born in Israel. But her twin daughters, Maya and Shira, now 2 ½ years old, are unable to gain status as U.S. citizens. Lavi, a single mother in her 40s, used a donor sperm and egg from a clinic in Israel to conceive her children through in-vitro fertilization. Now, the U.S. State Department is refusing to grant citizenship to her children because she is unable to prove that any of the donors are American citizens.

“I have been embarrassed, humiliated, horrified, ashamed,’’ Lavi told NBC News.

When Lavi went to the U.S. Embassy in Israel to register her children, she said she was asked over a loudspeaker in a crowded room by an embassy official how she conceived the children.

“It’s an outrageous question,’’ she said, recalling the experience. She later left the embassy in tears after more questioning.

Children adopted by U.S. citizens or born to foreign citizens in the U.S. are granted status as Americans. However, as Lavi was informed, children born to Americans overseas through in-vitro fertilization are denied American citizenship unless a donor can be proved to be a U.S. citizen. The laws were created to prevent people from fraudulently attaining status as Americans.

“They are my kids, I carried them for nine months, but they can’t be American,’’ Lavi said. “U.S. policy is not keeping up with the technology. That’s essentially what the issue is.’’

Born to American mom, in-vitro twins denied citizenship - TODAY News - TODAY.com

It seems that if she had been married to the donor, and it had been her egg, she could have been considered a US citizen born abroad of US parents, but because the egg and sperm were donated by foreign citizens, even though she carried the child to term in HER body, unless she files for adoption status, her children have no country.

Discuss...............

 

[chanel]

Why is she living in Israel? Why would she have in vitro with no husband? If she loves the U.S. So much, why isn't she here? Sounds to me that she wants it all. She should have had her "American children" in America with an American father. Ignorance of the law is no defense.
I think it's a good law.

 

[uscitizen]

I feel sorry for her(?) children. She sounds a bit wacko to me.

 

[007]

I feel sorry for her(?) children. She sounds a bit wacko to me.

Children are born to idiot parents every minute of every day.

The thing that morons don't understand is that just because you're stupid doesn't mean that somebody is going to give you a break.... oh wait a minute... damn... that's what liberals do. I guess that's why so many democrats live in slums and trailer parks, don't work, don't have any money, have arrest warrants out for them, are illegal aliens, vote illegally, and the list is endless. The dregs of society is made up of people that refer to themselves as "liberal, progressives, socialists, democrats and communists." America's trash.

 

[Artevelde]

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[Unkotare]

It seems that if she had been married to the donor, and it had been her egg, she could have been considered a US citizen born abroad of US parents, but because the egg and sperm were donated by foreign citizens, even though she carried the child to term in HER body, unless she files for adoption status, her children have no country.

Discuss...............

What do you mean "have no country"? Wouldn't they be Israeli citizens?

 

[chanel]

Lavi does have one option to get citizenship for her daughters – by living in America for six months and completing the paperwork there. But Lavi and her children still live in Israel, and what she believes is an automatic right

Fertility treatments also are free in Israel, so they are used more frequently, according to a report by USA Today. Many pregnant Americans living overseas come back to the United States to give birth in order to ensure their children are Americans, or they lie to officials at overseas embassies, the founder of Parents Via Egg Donation told USA Today.

Options. Choices. And consequences.

No sympathy.

 

[Unkotare]

Lavi does have one option to get citizenship for her daughters – by living in America for six months and completing the paperwork there. But Lavi and her children still live in Israel, and what she believes is an automatic right

Fertility treatments also are free in Israel, so they are used more frequently, according to a report by USA Today. Many pregnant Americans living overseas come back to the United States to give birth in order to ensure their children are Americans, or they lie to officials at overseas embassies, the founder of Parents Via Egg Donation told USA Today.

Options. Choices. And consequences.

No sympathy.

Sorta sounds like you've got a beef with American women who give birth abroad.

 

[California Girl]

Her children are Israeli. The over dramatic 'children without a country' is just a sad attempt to heartstring people.

 

[ABikerSailor]

It seems that if she had been married to the donor, and it had been her egg, she could have been considered a US citizen born abroad of US parents, but because the egg and sperm were donated by foreign citizens, even though she carried the child to term in HER body, unless she files for adoption status, her children have no country.

Discuss...............

What do you mean "have no country"? Wouldn't they be Israeli citizens?

In vitro happened in Israel, and they were born here in the US.

 

[Si modo]

It seems that if she had been married to the donor, and it had been her egg, she could have been considered a US citizen born abroad of US parents, but because the egg and sperm were donated by foreign citizens, even though she carried the child to term in HER body, unless she files for adoption status, her children have no country.

Discuss...............

What do you mean "have no country"? Wouldn't they be Israeli citizens?

In vitro happened in Israel, and they were born here in the US.

No, they were born in Israel.

From your link: "... despite the fact that they were born in Israel. ...."

 

[ABikerSailor]

What do you mean "have no country"? Wouldn't they be Israeli citizens?

In vitro happened in Israel, and they were born here in the US.

No, they were born in Israel.

From your link: "... despite the fact that they were born in Israel. ...."

Thanks for the correction, I misunderstood and thought they were born here.

 

[Si modo]

In vitro happened in Israel, and they were born here in the US.

No, they were born in Israel.

From your link: "... despite the fact that they were born in Israel. ...."

Thanks for the correction, I misunderstood and thought they were born here.

No prob, I did too. I have little doubt that was the intent of the writer, too.

 

[syrenn]

To bad so sad for her....and her kids. They were not born in America. She should learn about how anchor babies work.