Chester Arthur

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    became President when Garfield was assassinated. Arthur never had a Veep. How did he never have a veep? What if he had died in office?
     
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    majority leader of the senate.....
     
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    I think, and I could be wrong here, that before the 25th amendment, the order was VP, then the cabinet secretaries in order of creation of their office. So the Secretary of State would be first in line.

    After the 25th Amendment the order is, VP, Speaker of the House, President Pro Tempore of the Senate, then the cabinet officers in order of the creation of their office.
     
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    ah yes ..... posted without thinking agian .....
     
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    What are you talking about? The Speaker of the House would have stepped up if Arthur had died with no Vice President.
     
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    Good point. I forgot for a moment that there have been changes since then.
     
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    What about the fact that the veep breaks a tie in the senate? has that not always been the case? Why didn't he choose a veep?
     
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    It's ok, I got it wrong anyway. What I said was the law from 1886 to 1947. Prior to 1886, and thus the law when Garfield was killed, was that the VP, then President Pro Tempore, then Speaker of the House. This was the line of succession created in 1792. The Federalists did not want the, then current, Secretary of State to be in line to accede to the presidency. The Secretary of State was Thomas Jefferson.
     
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    I just thought of this, and I'm not sure when this was the case. But it used to be the veep would be granted to the candidate who came in second. Did that happen with arthur and garfield?
     
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    Yes, under Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution, the Vice President is the President of the Senate. He has no vote unless the Senate is equally divided. So yes, it has always been the case.

    I can't help you with the Why question.
     

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