Cheney defends Gitmo and Water Boarding

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    ABC News: Exclusive: Cheney Holds Hard-Line Stance

    This guy is the most delusional VP the US has ever had. I don't remember anyone in any administration that has been so blatantly defiant of the feelings of the majority of citizens.

    What is scary is he believes everything that comes from his warped brain.
     
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    Hate to say it, but even the NY Times is agreeing with him regarding Gitmo and rendition.
     
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    I agree with both. Most of all the water boarding!
     
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    I'm finding it interesting that many academics are beginning to find that Obama is going to need to avail himself of many of the issues and tactics he ran against. As we speak the MSM are pounding out articles of why it's necessary, mostly finding fault with Bush, but maintaining the reasoning.
     
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    Cheney is an idiot.

    Most of the foreign fighters who came to Iraq came there because they believed Americans were torturing prisoners.
     
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    B.S--the foreign fighters that came to Iraq to fight Americans--was because Al Queda & other extremists put out the call, not because they felt Americans were torturing Iraqi's. If you wanted to see torture--take a look at one single documentary of how life was with Sadam Husien--DUH!

    Now--what do we do with all of these Al Queda terrorists. Do we put them in American federal prisons, where their life expectancy will be that of a nat? Where they would be beaten, raped & everything else that you could possibly imagine. Or do you believe that we should keep them in a cell 23 hours a day 7 days a week with no human contact what-so-ever? Because to keep them alive that would have to be the structure. American prisoners would put targets on every one of their backs. The next thing: Many of these countries do not want these terrorists back. Some fear certain death if they return to their home countries.

    And yes, I fully agree with Dick Chenney. When it comes to the mastermind of 9/11--who is directly responsible for slaughtering 3000 innocent, unarmed Americans--"regardless if they were democrats or republicans"--this guy deserved everything he got. In fact, waterboarding was much too easy on him.
     
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    "I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Our policy of torture was directly and swiftly recruiting fighters for al-Qaeda in Iraq. The large majority of suicide bombings in Iraq are still carried out by these foreigners. They are also involved in most of the attacks on U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq. It's no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our program of detainee abuse. "

    I'm Still Tortured by What I Saw in Iraq - washingtonpost.com
     
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    A pair of underware on some guys head, does not even compare to the types of torture & murder that Sadam Husien dished out. GITMO--PLEASE! Soccer being played on the field, good warm food, a nice bed along with a copy of the Koran--prayer meetings--living in what is considered a paradise climate,--was much much better than the freezing caves that most of these terrorists came from. Add to that free medical screenings & care the likes of which most Americans never see. If that's what you call torture, then give me some.

    You guys need to realise that Islamic extremists really do exist. They hate, they will do anything to kill--especially Americans & westerners at every single opportunity. They don't need a reason. It's the holy war concept.

    NOPE--the call to come to Iraq was done by none other than Osama Bin Laden along with all his extremist cohurts. NEVER ONCE did OSB say or any other extremist call for the invasion of terrorists/or foreign fighters into Iraq because they believed Americans were torturing Iraqi's.

    That torture comment/concept came only from people/or Americans who think like you--& never once from any Islamic extremist bent on slaughtering innocents. Now, American opinion has influenced our government into another very bad decision by closing GITMO.

    Eventually one of you on this board is going to have to explain--while Osama Bin Laden called for all comrades in arms to head to Iraq, because as he stated: "Iraq is the central front" against the infidels. You will also have to explain that most of these foreign fighters came into Iraq long before the incident at Abu-Graid, where 7 soldiers made the mistake of putting underware on some Iraqi's insurgent's head, taking pictures & sending them around for viewing.

    But most importantly you all will have to explain: Why hundred's of Iraqi's were slaughtered standing in line for security positions or new jobs--when--as you state--these foreign fighters were just there to "protect" Iraqi's from American torture. This happened on a daily basis, if you remember.

    The reason foreign fighters came into the region was to fight the one & only idea they could not stomach. A democracy in the heart of the middle east. Islamic extremists do not believe in freedom. They do not believe citizens have a right to vote. They only believe in radical religious oppression. If anyone gets out of line as to what they believe, they are tortured or killed. Freedom is what they feared most, & they savagely killed thousands of Iraqi's along with Americans & coalition troops to make that point. It had absolutely nothing to do with them thinking we were torturing Iraqi's.
     
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    Sorry to bother you with the facts.

    Go back to ignoring them.
     
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    O.K. then you show me one SINGLE comment from any Islamic extremist that mentions American torture in GITMO or Abu Graid-& for a call to arms to head to Iraq to protect the Iraqi's from the American "torture" machine.

    If you can't--you & your posts are put on my IGNORE list!
     
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