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LOL that was actually funny
but you have not "hurt" me one iota
as you have already been told, i couldnt care less if the Russian put in a missile defense in Venezuala, in fact, i hope they dolisten dude. weapons are weapons despite what they are intended to be used for. a SAM like the patriot CAN shoot more than an ICBM out of the sky. It's an aggressive move by a nation that has been showing the world all about how "defense" = first strikes for the last 8 years. If I were russia, hell if I were CHAVEZ, i'd be doing this same thing. Only, ID be putting a "missile defense" in cuba. You want another cold war? Looks like you are going to get one.
LOLMore evidence supporting my thesis that you are a fucking moron.
as you have already been told, i couldnt care less if the Russian put in a missile defense in Venezuala, in fact, i hope they do
it will just spend more of there resources to do so
a defensive missile system, yeswould you say the same thing about missiles in Cuba?
bullshit
never happened
that moron CVhavez claimed it did but it didnt
are you actually that fucking brain dead you dont know he uses bullshit like that to get his 15 minutes of fame?
BBC News said:Military pressure forced Chavez from power
Business leader Pedro Carmona has been sworn in as Venezuela's caretaker president at the request of the armed forces after Hugo Chavez was ousted from office.
The interim government has promised to hold presidential elections within a year but Latin American leaders have refused to recognise the new regime.
The Guardian said:Meanwhile, in the streets of Caracas, thousands of demonstrators supporting Mr Chavez - or opposed to the way he was ousted - took over state TV to demand his return. Police fired water cannon and teargas. Agency reports claimed that dozens died in the violence.
The Observer said:The failed coup in Venezuela was closely tied to senior officials in the US government, The Observer has established. They have long histories in the 'dirty wars' of the 1980s, and links to death squads working in Central America at that time.
Washington's involvement in the turbulent events that briefly removed left-wing leader Hugo Chavez from power last weekend resurrects fears about US ambitions in the hemisphere.
It also also deepens doubts about policy in the region being made by appointees to the Bush administration, all of whom owe their careers to serving in the dirty wars under President Reagan.
One of them, Elliot Abrams, who gave a nod to the attempted Venezuelan coup, has a conviction for misleading Congress over the infamous Iran-Contra affair.
The Bush administration has tried to distance itself from the coup. It immediately endorsed the new government under businessman Pedro Carmona. But the coup was sent dramatically into reverse after 48 hours.
Now officials at the Organisation of American States and other diplomatic sources, talking to The Observer, assert that the US administration was not only aware the coup was about to take place, but had sanctioned it, presuming it to be destined for success.
The visits by Venezuelans plotting a coup, including Carmona himself, began, say sources, 'several months ago', and continued until weeks before the putsch last weekend. The visitors were received at the White House by the man President George Bush tasked to be his key policy-maker for Latin America, Otto Reich.
Reich is a right-wing Cuban-American who, under Reagan, ran the Office for Public Diplomacy. It reported in theory to the State Department, but Reich was shown by congressional investigations to report directly to Reagan's National Security Aide, Colonel Oliver North, in the White House.
North was convicted and shamed for his role in Iran-Contra, whereby arms bought by busting US sanctions on Iran were sold to the Contra guerrillas and death squads, in revolt against the Marxist government in Nicaragua.
Reich also has close ties to Venezuela, having been made ambassador to Caracas in 1986. His appointment was contested both by Democrats in Washington and political leaders in the Latin American country. The objections were overridden as Venezuela sought access to the US oil market.
Reich is said by OAS sources to have had 'a number of meetings with Carmona and other leaders of the coup' over several months. The coup was discussed in some detail, right down to its timing and chances of success, which were deemed to be excellent.
Again, who the hell cares if they have a DEFENSE Shield? Unless we decide to nuke them, it wouldnt even be used.
listen dude. weapons are weapons despite what they are intended to be used for. a SAM like the patriot CAN shoot more than an ICBM out of the sky. It's an aggressive move by a nation that has been showing the world all about how "defense" = first strikes for the last 8 years. If I were russia, hell if I were CHAVEZ, i'd be doing this same thing. Only, ID be putting a "missile defense" in cuba. You want another cold war? Looks like you are going to get one.
so, because some anti-American people accuse us of it, automatically we are guiltyCouldn't expect any less from a Brave Defenders of the State, to spit doctrine with no back up. Here's the Contemporary History Class of the Day.
BBC News | AMERICAS | Interim Venezuelan president sworn in
Chavez rises from very peculiar coup | World news | The Guardian
Venezuela coup linked to Bush team | World news | The Observer
To be honest, I've never even heard of anyone disputing there WAS a coup.
so, because some anti-American people accuse us of it, automatically we are guilty
Oh, yeah, I forgot that sources are unimportant.
So how about some of that Real American Government or Media sources that can come save the day by denying there was ever a coup? Can you show me that? C'mon, one link. It can even be Fox News.
In either case, I don't understand why you'd be so incredulous. There's ample precedent for this, as I'm sure a real American Patriot like you would know, right? Crusades in Nicaragua, coups in Chile, imposing a military regime on Guatemala, are you going to deny ALL of these things and ignore anything that says otherwise? Well, congratulations, you've just been promoted to People's Commissar!
Do you simply not want to face the reality of RUSSIA in this equation?
i'm not denying there was a coup, but i dont buy the claim that we had anything to do with itOh, yeah, I forgot that sources are unimportant.
So how about some of that Real American Government or Media sources that can come save the day by denying there was ever a coup? Can you show me that? C'mon, one link. It can even be Fox News.
In either case, I don't understand why you'd be so incredulous. There's ample precedent for this, as I'm sure a real American Patriot like you would know, right? Crusades in Nicaragua, coups in Chile, imposing a military regime on Guatemala, are you going to deny ALL of these things and ignore anything that says otherwise? Well, congratulations, you've just been promoted to People's Commissar!
Commies are to be killed...not given the reins of government.
so, you think Bush was wrong on that, the same as i didyeah, that's why Bush said (kgb)Putin's eyes showed he had a good soul....
Commies are to be killed...not given the reins of government.
You're right- Democracy be damned. If 'we' don't like 'em, you can't choose 'em! That's how you spread democratic values around the world! = D
i'm not denying there was a coup, but i dont buy the claim that we had anything to do with it
you DO know Chavez had his goons shooting people in the street if they were suspected they would be voting for his opposition
ya know, that does kinda make enemies
and i'm sick of this country being blamed for everything wrong in the world
if you stub your toe, its NOT our falt
