Charlie Hebdo Massacre Should Shame The World's Print Media!

JimofPennsylvan

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The recent murderous rampage at the Paris office of satirical magazine, Charlie Hebdo, over its publication of dispariging images of the prophet Muhammed should give the world two lessons. First, the critics are right that major print media outlets should be ashamed of themselves for their lack of courage and allowing themselves to be cowed by people that would threaten violence for speech that offends the Muslim religion. Major print media outlets throughout the world should form a collective and monitor the Muslim world and when identifiable threats of this nature occurr, the collective should print the threatended speech en masse. This would create the situation where there is so much "threatened" speech distributed throughout the world that these extremists Muslims groups believe justify violence that it would be pointless for them to conduct such violence because it does not make a material difference in the publication of such spech. In America, this collective should include in part the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, the USA Today, the Washington Post, etc.. These media outlets laude and make a big deal about the courage of their individual journalists but how about the management of these media outlets showing courage and standing up for free speech against these Islamic extremist terrorists.

The second lesson from the murder of these twelve people over the publication of disparaging speech of the Muslim faith is that countries throughout the world have to be forced to take a stance, that being, are you for free speech or against free speech. There needs to be an international convention, like the Geneva convention against the mistreatment of prisoners captured in time of war, that all countries throughout the world should be signing on to that stands for the proposition that violence against promulgators of speech no matter how offensive the speech is, even speech on religion, is wrong and prohibited. The speech that is at the genesis of these murders at the offices of Charlie Hebdo are disparaging images of Muhammed first published in the Danish Newspaper Jyllande-Posten and one of the sovereign acts that arose out of this matter is that the country of Saudi Arabia recalled their ambassador from Denmark in protest to this speech. How is the world going to get individual people and groups of people not to overreact to offensive speech when country's like Saudi Arabia overreact. This writer is christian and is offended when speech disparaging Jesus Christ and the Pope is published and so recognizes individuals and governments offense at speech offending a religion but the responsible response is just verbal condemnation of the speech not overreaction.

The world is going to see more badness arising out of the Muslim religion in Western countries unless the people and governments in these Western countries stand up for good in their countries on the subject of the Muslim religion. What is this all about "no go zones" and "sharia courts" for Muslim communities in Western countries. Muslim communities are not countries in and of themselves in Western countries; this is preposterous, absurd, unreasonable and out-of-the-question. These communities are part of a sovereign country and should be subject to the same power of government officials as non-Muslim communities throughout the country; police, fire department personnel, child welfare personnel and the like should have unimpaired access to these communities and people obstructing that access should find themselves in jail it is that simple. A critically important element of a sovereign country is its court system and the laws which guide its operation; it is an egregious off-the-charts violation against the sovereignty of a country to ignore a county's secular laws and just say in these communities we are going to disregard secular law and just apply another law whether it is a specific religion or another entities' law. Besides this alone compelling justification for this prohibition, a fully good country or society is not going to restrict its law to the Koran or Bible or any text limited to a fixed time in history because a fully good country knows that human knowledge and reason grows and progresses over time and that law needs to account for this and grow and change with these advancements. The Muslim religion is a wonderful and beautiful religion and should hold an outstandingly good place in human history ad infinitum but humanity should not allow this religion to hurt human history!
 
Muslims living in France outnumber Christians living in Syria, Iraq...

CIA Estimates: Muslims in France Outnumber Combined, Surviving Christian Populations of Syria, Iraq
January 9, 2015 – Muslims living in France now outnumber the combined, surviving Christian populations of Syria and Iraq, according to estimates published by the CIA in its World Factbook.
There are also more Muslims in France than there are people in Kuwait, or the West Bank, or Gaza. France has a total population of 66,259,012, according to the CIA, with Muslims making up 5 percent to 10 percent of the total. At the lower-end of this range (5 percent), there would be 3,312,951 Muslims in France. At the upper-end (10 percent), there would be 6,625,901. Iraq, according to the CIA World Factbook, has a total population of 32,585,692, with Christians making up 0.8 percent of the total—or about 260,686 individuals.

Syria, according to the World Factbook, has a population of 17,951,639, with Christians making up 10 percent of the total—or about 1,795,164 individuals. The combined population of approximately 2,055,850 Christians who live in Syria and Iraq, according to the CIA World Factbook, is less than the minimum of 3,312,951 Muslims who live in France. Even if the number of Muslims in France is at the low-end estimate of 5 percent (3,312,951), those Muslims outnumber the combined Christian population of Syria by about 1,257,101 individuals, or about 61 percent.

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A ransacked church on April 14, 2014, in the ancient Syrian village of Maaloula, where they speak Aramaic, the language Christ spoke.

For every 3 Muslims in France there are fewer than 2 Christians in Syria and Iraq. At the low-end range of 3,312,951, the Muslims living in France outnumber the entire populations of Oman (3,219,775), Kuwait (2,742,711), the West Bank (2,731,052), Qatar (2,123,160), the Gaza Strip (1,816,379), Bahrain (1,314,089), Djibouti (810,179). At the upper-end range (6,625,901), there are more Muslims in France than there are people in Libya (6,244,174), Lebanon (5,882,562), and the United Arab Emirates (5,628,805).

The Christian populations of Iraq and Syria have been declining. “[W]hile there has been voluntary relocation of many Christian families to northern Iraq, recent reporting indicates that the overall Christian population may have dropped by as much as 50 percent since the fall of the Saddam HUSSEIN regime in 2003, with many fleeing to Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon,” said the CIA, based on a 2010 estimate. “In Syria, as in much of the Middle East, the Christian presence is becoming a shadow of its former self. After three years of civil war, hundreds of thousands fled the country desperate to escape the ongoing violence perpetrated by the government and extremist groups alike,” says the State Department's 2013 International Religious Freedom Report.

CIA Estimates: Muslims in France Outnumber Combined, Surviving Christian Populations of Syria, Iraq | CNS News

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Paris attack rallies Islamic extremists, may boost support
Jan 10,`15 -- The militant chatter spread like wildfire. Within minutes of news breaking about the deadly terror attack on a Paris newspaper this week, supporters of extremist Islamic groups extolled the suspects in the massacre as "lions of the caliphate" and praised the killings on social media.
Loyalists of al-Qaida and the Islamic State group alike described the assault on Charlie Hebdo's offices that killed 12 people as revenge for the French satirical publication's mockery of Islam's Prophet Muhammad and France's military involvement in Muslim countries. Brothers Cherif and Said Kouachi became icons in the terror-sphere. Many militant supporters organized under the Arabic hashtag (hash)Parisattack and (hash)Parisisburning, with some calling the newspaper assault a holy attack by the "lions of the Khalifa,"or caliphate.

Over and over, Twitter users who identified with the Islamic State group or al-Qaida posted pictures and videos of a black-clad gunman - presumably one of the brothers - shooting a French policeman in the head as he lay on a Paris sidewalk before fleeing the scene in a getaway car. "Watch how a brother kills a French policeman," some wrote. Others described the slaughter at Charlie Hebdo as a "heroic" and "joyous" event. The Kouachi brothers' military-style assault - and their death as "martyrs" in a hail of bullets on Friday after police raided the building where they had holed up with a hostage north of Paris - undoubtedly resonates with extremists' repeated calls for attacks in France, echoing chilling images from their slick propaganda videos.

Though it is impossible to gauge in any tangible way the effect the attack will have on recruitment by extremist groups - and there is no evidence so far that it is mobilizing large numbers of would-be jihadis - experts believe the perceived professionalism of the brothers' assault and their subsequent showdown with police could rally more supporters to militant ranks. "It is that quality to such operations that helps recruitment," said Aymenn al-Tamimi, a U.K-based expert on Syrian and Iraqi militant groups. The obviously well-planned attack in the heart of Paris serves "as an example to would-be operatives," he said.

On Friday, after the Kouachi brothers were killed, a member of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula - the militant group's Yemen-based affiliate - confirmed to The Associated Press that it had coordinated the Paris attack. Speaking on condition of anonymity, the member told the AP that the group's leadership, "directed the operations and they have chosen their target carefully." Both al-Qaida and the Islamic State group potentially stand to benefit from the bloodshed. For IS militants, it is a welcome "success" in global jihad, or holy war, as they struggle to maintain momentum in the face of U.S.-led airstrikes targeting their positions in Syria and Iraq, where the Islamic State group seized large swaths of territory last year, declaring an Islamic caliphate and imposing their own radical version of Islamic law, or Sharia.

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France is in a very difficult spot. They have 5 million Muslims living in their country, along with a huge list of 5 thousand of them that are on watch lists.

What I don't understand is a French citizen, being able to go over to fight with terrorists and then being allowed back into the country? Or any other country for that matter. If they want to go to Syria, let them, but shred their passports and make them stay in Syria for the rest of their lives. They never come back. That's the only way anyone can stop them from committing more horrific acts of terrorism against innocent people.

As far as the opt's statement, every newspaper in Europe posted those cartoons of Mohammad after the Paris attack. Instead of 60k seeing these cartoons, millions upon millions of people have seen them worldwide. One could say that the purpose in massacring these 12 people was an epic fail for the terrorists cause. No one is afraid, they're pissed.

It's gotten to a point where immigration, school visas, of Muslims into other countries has got to stop. They do not integrate well into western societies, and no one can tell the difference between a good Muslim and a bad one.

I think after this attack in France that's where immigration policy (World Wide) is headed.
 
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There was nothing Voltairean in the humor of Charlie Hebdo, but its mockery of religious orthodoxy, among Christians as well as Muslims, expressed an anticlerical spirit that goes far back in French history. As the news of the massacre sank in, I kept thinking of Voltaire and calling up his famous grin—lips curled and lower jaw stuck out, as if to defy anyone who might dare to pull a punch.

It was not always an adequate defense. In his last years, Voltaire was overwhelmed with horror at atrocities committed by French courts, particularly the case of Jean Calas, a Protestant who was tortured and executed after being wrongly convicted for the suicide of his son, who had converted to Catholicism. The Calas Affair became the centerpiece in Voltaire’s campaign to crush l’infâme—intolerance, ignorance, injustice, and especially persecution perpetrated by the Church and state. At the height of his fury, if I remember correctly, Voltaire wrote a letter to d’Alembert, his main philosophic ally in Paris, stating, “This is not a time for laughter.”

Laughter against terror: an uneven match. On the day after the massacre, I asked a man who sells newspapers near my Paris apartment when he had sold his last Charlie Hebdo. “Within an hour of the event,” he said. He never kept many copies in his kiosk: “It had a peculiar kind of reader.” Would it survive? “Of course,” he said. “Otherwise, they would have won.” In fact, the survivors on the staff are already preparing next Wednesday’s editions from offices loaned to them by Libération. They will print a million copies.

Laughter and Terror by Robert Darnton NYRblog The New York Review of Books
 
The problem with any potential international conference on free speech is that if it was truly international, it would be used for a purpose diametrically opposed to promoting free speech by all those who simply do not believe in the concept. Just take a look at how the U.N. Human Rights Council is made up of so many vile racists who use their influence to promote ethnic hatred, and it becomes pretty obvious how the politics of any such conference would actually work.

You either limit the invitees to those from places that practice free speech, thus limiting the potential for it being undermined, but serving no real purpose other than preaching to the choir, or you invite everybody and watch all the representatives of Islamic states , tin pot dictatorships and tribal states make a mockery of the very process.
 

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