"Change", We Should Not Have Believed In..

[Modbert]

One thing that I have observed, is that people who are quick to hurl racial accusations, are often racists themselves.

Wow, how very ignorant.

You're calling me racist? Prove it. However, like everything else you spew, you can't.

 

[cristal]

One thing that I have observed, is that people who are quick to hurl racial accusations, are often racists themselves.

Wow, how very ignorant.

You're calling me racist? Prove it. However, like everything else you spew, you can't.

 

[Modbert]

As usual, all you do is use and not even fully correctly. You fail, go back to the hannity boards or whatever hole you came from.

 

[cristal]

As usual, all you do is use and not even fully correctly. You fail, go back to the hannity boards or whatever hole you came from.

 

[cristal]

As usual, all you do is use and not even fully correctly. You fail, go back to the hannity boards or whatever hole you came from.

And you know what Robert, you need to get fucked.

That is the cause of your problems.

 

[Modbert]

And you know what Robert, you need to get fucked.

That is the cause of your problems.

I would suggest seeing a therapist, but I don't think even one of those could help you.

 

[Xenophon]

Obamabots will never admit they were wrong. They are far too arrogant, closed-minded and intolerant for that. They'll just keep blaming everything on the Bush Administration even though the Democrats have been in control of Congress since 2007 and Obama is pushing many of the same failed policies that Bush introduced.

They are the left version of Bushbots, nothing their side or leader does is wrong, and it's always the other side's fault.

Dems should change thier logo to 'the party of no responsibilty' because they never take any.

 

[Zoom-boing]

I thought I was the only one who noticed his hair...lol. Poor Guy.

I haven't made up my mind about him yet, however, I will say that it does (to some degree) seem like he's in over his head. Even many government officials feel like he's trying to tackle too much at once.

Exactly my point, Bush and Clinton both came in with reasonably brown hair. Now look at them.

Well the thing is Brian, he has to tackle it all at once. I mean there is so much now that Presidents have to deal with that they didn't 40+ years ago. The job is always evolving but the fact he hasn't had a heart attack is a testament alone. Can you imagine having his job? Scary stuff

Ok you two. While being POTUS is stressful, Bush and Clinton are older now, which is primarily the reason for the white hair you see on them now.

Barry is grayer now because during the campaign he colored his hair. (Oh, and before some numbnuts comes in here griping about racism -- 'colored his hair' isn't a racist remark. Get a grip.) He's stopped so the early graying (which happens to most 45+ year olds) is showing. This is all all done via a well orchestrated PR machine. All Presidents do it, to some degree or another. And it works . . . you think he's grayer 'cause he's 'stressed'. Nah, he just stopped applying the Grecian Formula.

And for Robert and cristal:

looser, adjective: free or released from fastening or attachment
Ex: My pants are looser now that I've lost weight.

loser, noun: a person, team, nation, etc., that loses
Ex: Obama is a loser. Ex: McCain is a loser.

If you're going to call someone a loser - or not - get it right. I would have left it alone because I figured it was just a typo. But you two repeated it several times. Just trying to help.

 

[Angel Heart]

No, because if you believe McCain or even Palin could do better then this then you're smoking some serious drugs.

McCain and Palin lost the election, because Obama made promises that he did and could not keep. His soaring rhetoric got him elected. Definitely, not his ability to govern.

At least McCain would have been honest and not promised the farm, when all he could have delivered was one tree.

Therefore, during this past election, I ended up putting my money on the honest guy.

McCain lost the election because he rushed into DC saying he was going to save the day and at the end of the day he voted right along with everyone else for the TARP. Many where sitting on their edge of their seat expecting him to do the right thing and he didn't. He was no different from Obama. That's the problem. We need someone who doesn't push us toward more government control.

 

[WillowTree]

As usual, all you do is use and not even fully correctly. You fail, go back to the hannity boards or whatever hole you came from.

And you know what Robert, you need to get fucked.

That is the cause of your problems.

and risk replication? the pox on you!

 

[Modbert]

And for Robert and cristal:

looser, adjective: free or released from fastening or attachment
Ex: My pants are looser now that I've lost weight.

loser, noun: a person, team, nation, etc., that loses
Ex: Obama is a loser. Ex: McCain is a loser.

If you're going to call someone a loser - or not - get it right. I would have left it alone because I figured it was just a typo. But you two repeated it several times. Just trying to help.

Someone finally picked up on it. I was hoping she would but I guess not.

 

[cristal]

No, because if you believe McCain or even Palin could do better then this then you're smoking some serious drugs.

McCain and Palin lost the election, because Obama made promises that he did and could not keep. His soaring rhetoric got him elected. Definitely, not his ability to govern.

At least McCain would have been honest and not promised the farm, when all he could have delivered was one tree.

Therefore, during this past election, I ended up putting my money on the honest guy.

McCain lost the election because he rushed into DC saying he was going to save the day and at the end of the day he voted right along with everyone else for the TARP. Many where sitting on their edge of their seat expecting him to do the right thing and he didn't. He was no different from Obama. That's the problem. We need someone who doesn't push us toward more government control.

No, McCain lost the election, because Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and the MSM, virtually groomed Obama to become President. When Obama ran against Hillary, she was viciously attacked by the press. Because everyone wanted Barry to win.

It did not matter whom Barry went up against, his opponent would have been ripped to shreds by the MSM.

So McCain or any other opponent of Obama, had little to zero chances of ever winning the election.

 

[Modbert]

No, McCain lost the election, because Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and the MSM, virtually groomed Obama to become President. When Obama ran against Hillary, she was viciously attacked by the press. Because everyone wanted Barry to win.

It did not matter whom Barry went up against, his opponent would have been ripped to shreds by the MSM.

So McCain or any other opponent of Obama, had little to zero chances of ever winning the election.

You mean he would of lost to Jesus?

Well actually...



But the first part of your post made me

 

[Old Rocks]

Obama said that he was going to fix it in 6 months. It has been 6 months. Foreclosures are at its worst and over 2 million jobs have been lost, since the stimulus bill was signed.

That my friend is not progress. It is an abject failure.

Now that is a lie. He said he would get legislation passed in six months. That he has done. He also said it take time, and there would still be a lot of pain before we are out of the woods.

You people took eight years totally screwing up this economy, nobody is capable of fixing the last eight years of incompetance and corruption in six months.

 

[Zoom-boing]

And for Robert and cristal:

looser, adjective: free or released from fastening or attachment
Ex: My pants are looser now that I've lost weight.

loser, noun: a person, team, nation, etc., that loses
Ex: Obama is a loser. Ex: McCain is a loser.

If you're going to call someone a loser - or not - get it right. I would have left it alone because I figured it was just a typo. But you two repeated it several times. Just trying to help.

Someone finally picked up on it. I was hoping she would but I guess not.

Yes, I noticed that you just went along with it and then called her a 12 year old. Too bad . . . I kind of thought you'd be the bigger person.

 

[Old Rocks]

Willow, I know you're a fucking idiot so I try not to bother going down to your level of stupidity. Do you even know the way Canadian health care works?No do tell. I asked you a question. Moron

I think you ALL seem to be forgetting a simple fact. The Health Care option on the table at the moment is optional. Of course, if the Canadian Parli member can afford getting treated for something right way then go right ahead.yes, and everybody else can just wait,, til they die,, right? god damn you are DUmb.

However, we're talking about insurance of the nearly 40 million who don't have ANY sort of insurance vs the Canadian health care plan.Insurance that buys you a chance to stand in line while you are dying. DUmmie

And if you seriously think no insurance is better then you are

DUmb.

Silly ass, care sometime to stop the lies?

Myths about Canadian healthcare
Posted by Cory Doctorow, June 27, 2009 1:07 AM | permalink
Rhonda Hackett, a Canadian expat clinical psychologist living in the US, has an editorial in the Denver Post with a good round-up of myths and truths about Canadian health care. I've lived under the Canadian, US, British and Costa Rican health care systems and of the four, I believe that the Canadian one functions best (I'd rank them Canadian, British, Costa Rican and US). My experience with all four includes routine and urgent care. I've had firsthand experience of pre-and post-natal care in Canada, the US and the UK; I've also seen the Canadian, US and UK palliative care system in action.
On the other hand, I believe that the UK system of caring for elderly people is better than the others; Costa Ricans have better services for rural people; and the US has a better culture of retail service (outside of healthcare) than anywhere else I've lived.

Myth: Taxes in Canada are extremely high, mostly because of national health care.
In actuality, taxes are nearly equal on both sides of the border. Overall, Canada's taxes are slightly higher than those in the U.S. However, Canadians are afforded many benefits for their tax dollars, even beyond health care (e.g., tax credits, family allowance, cheaper higher education), so the end result is a wash. At the end of the day, the average after-tax income of Canadian workers is equal to about 82 percent of their gross pay. In the U.S., that average is 81.9 percent.
Myth: Canada's health care system is a cumbersome bureaucracy.
The U.S. has the most bureaucratic health care system in the world. More than 31 percent of every dollar spent on health care in the U.S. goes to paperwork, overhead, CEO salaries, profits, etc. The provincial single-payer system in Canada operates with just a 1 percent overhead. Think about it. It is not necessary to spend a huge amount of money to decide who gets care and who doesn't when everybody is covered.
Myths about Canadian healthcare - Boing Boing


Myth: Canada's government decides who gets health care and when they get it.While HMOs and other private medical insurers in the U.S. do indeed make such decisions, the only people in Canada to do so are physicians. In Canada, the government has absolutely no say in who gets care or how they get it. Medical decisions are left entirely up to doctors, as they should be.

There are no requirements for pre-authorization whatsoever. If your family doctor says you need an MRI, you get one. In the U.S., if an insurance administrator says you are not getting an MRI, you don't get one no matter what your doctor thinks — unless, of course, you have the money to cover the cost.

Myth: There are long waits for care, which compromise access to care.There are no waits for urgent or primary care in Canada. There are reasonable waits for most specialists' care, and much longer waits for elective surgery. Yes, there are those instances where a patient can wait up to a month for radiation therapy for breast cancer or prostate cancer, for example. However, the wait has nothing to do with money per se, but everything to do with the lack of radiation therapists. Despite such waits, however, it is noteworthy that Canada boasts lower incident and mortality rates than the U.S. for all cancers combined, according to the U.S. Cancer Statistics Working Group and the Canadian Cancer Society. Moreover, fewer Canadians (11.3 percent) than Americans (14.4 percent) admit unmet health care needs.
Debunking Canadian health care myths - The Denver Post

 

[Meister]

Obama said that he was going to fix it in 6 months. It has been 6 months. Foreclosures are at its worst and over 2 million jobs have been lost, since the stimulus bill was signed.

That my friend is not progress. It is an abject failure.

Now that is a lie. He said he would get legislation passed in six months. That he has done. He also said it take time, and there would still be a lot of pain before we are out of the woods.

You people took eight years totally screwing up this economy, nobody is capable of fixing the last eight years of incompetance and corruption in six months.

Talk about lies Old Rocks. For the love of God, why don't you be honest.

 

[Modbert]

Yes, I noticed that you just went along with it and then called her a 12 year old. Too bad . . . I kind of thought you'd be the bigger person.

You'd get my comments if you're from Rhode Island. Loser comes out as Looser by many at times.

I also called her a twelve year old because only twelve year olds use such unwitty insults.

 

[concept]

Willow, I know you're a fucking idiot so I try not to bother going down to your level of stupidity. Do you even know the way Canadian health care works?No do tell. I asked you a question. Moron

I think you ALL seem to be forgetting a simple fact. The Health Care option on the table at the moment is optional. Of course, if the Canadian Parli member can afford getting treated for something right way then go right ahead.yes, and everybody else can just wait,, til they die,, right? god damn you are DUmb.

However, we're talking about insurance of the nearly 40 million who don't have ANY sort of insurance vs the Canadian health care plan.Insurance that buys you a chance to stand in line while you are dying. DUmmie

And if you seriously think no insurance is better then you are

DUmb.

Silly ass, care sometime to stop the lies?

Myths about Canadian healthcare
Posted by Cory Doctorow, June 27, 2009 1:07 AM | permalink
Rhonda Hackett, a Canadian expat clinical psychologist living in the US, has an editorial in the Denver Post with a good round-up of myths and truths about Canadian health care. I've lived under the Canadian, US, British and Costa Rican health care systems and of the four, I believe that the Canadian one functions best (I'd rank them Canadian, British, Costa Rican and US). My experience with all four includes routine and urgent care. I've had firsthand experience of pre-and post-natal care in Canada, the US and the UK; I've also seen the Canadian, US and UK palliative care system in action.
On the other hand, I believe that the UK system of caring for elderly people is better than the others; Costa Ricans have better services for rural people; and the US has a better culture of retail service (outside of healthcare) than anywhere else I've lived.

Myth: Taxes in Canada are extremely high, mostly because of national health care.
In actuality, taxes are nearly equal on both sides of the border. Overall, Canada's taxes are slightly higher than those in the U.S. However, Canadians are afforded many benefits for their tax dollars, even beyond health care (e.g., tax credits, family allowance, cheaper higher education), so the end result is a wash. At the end of the day, the average after-tax income of Canadian workers is equal to about 82 percent of their gross pay. In the U.S., that average is 81.9 percent.
Myth: Canada's health care system is a cumbersome bureaucracy.
The U.S. has the most bureaucratic health care system in the world. More than 31 percent of every dollar spent on health care in the U.S. goes to paperwork, overhead, CEO salaries, profits, etc. The provincial single-payer system in Canada operates with just a 1 percent overhead. Think about it. It is not necessary to spend a huge amount of money to decide who gets care and who doesn't when everybody is covered.
Myths about Canadian healthcare - Boing Boing


Myth: Canada's government decides who gets health care and when they get it.While HMOs and other private medical insurers in the U.S. do indeed make such decisions, the only people in Canada to do so are physicians. In Canada, the government has absolutely no say in who gets care or how they get it. Medical decisions are left entirely up to doctors, as they should be.

There are no requirements for pre-authorization whatsoever. If your family doctor says you need an MRI, you get one. In the U.S., if an insurance administrator says you are not getting an MRI, you don't get one no matter what your doctor thinks — unless, of course, you have the money to cover the cost.

Myth: There are long waits for care, which compromise access to care.There are no waits for urgent or primary care in Canada. There are reasonable waits for most specialists' care, and much longer waits for elective surgery. Yes, there are those instances where a patient can wait up to a month for radiation therapy for breast cancer or prostate cancer, for example. However, the wait has nothing to do with money per se, but everything to do with the lack of radiation therapists. Despite such waits, however, it is noteworthy that Canada boasts lower incident and mortality rates than the U.S. for all cancers combined, according to the U.S. Cancer Statistics Working Group and the Canadian Cancer Society. Moreover, fewer Canadians (11.3 percent) than Americans (14.4 percent) admit unmet health care needs.
Debunking Canadian health care myths - The Denver Post

I can see you've never experienced it.

I have, my parents, who are older now have to deal with all the time and the health care is shit.

So quote your articles all day long lib, you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Soaring]

I thought I was the only one who noticed his hair...lol. Poor Guy.

I haven't made up my mind about him yet, however, I will say that it does (to some degree) seem like he's in over his head. Even many government officials feel like he's trying to tackle too much at once.

Exactly my point, Bush and Clinton both came in with reasonably brown hair. Now look at them.

Well the thing is Brian, he has to tackle it all at once. I mean there is so much now that Presidents have to deal with that they didn't 40+ years ago. The job is always evolving but the fact he hasn't had a heart attack is a testament alone. Can you imagine having his job? Scary stuff

Ok you two. While being POTUS is stressful, Bush and Clinton are older now, which is primarily the reason for the white hair you see on them now.

Barry is grayer now because during the campaign he colored his hair. (Oh, and before some numbnuts comes in here griping about racism -- 'colored his hair' isn't a racist remark. Get a grip.) He's stopped so the early graying (which happens to most 45+ year olds) is showing. This is all all done via a well orchestrated PR machine. All Presidents do it, to some degree or another. And it works . . . you think he's grayer 'cause he's 'stressed'. Nah, he just stopped applying the Grecian Formula.

And for Robert and cristal:

looser, adjective: free or released from fastening or attachment
Ex: My pants are looser now that I've lost weight.

loser, noun: a person, team, nation, etc., that loses
Ex: Obama is a loser. Ex: McCain is a loser.

If you're going to call someone a loser - or not - get it right. I would have left it alone because I figured it was just a typo. But you two repeated it several times. Just trying to help.

Why is it that folks who spell looser to mean loser are ignorant in my eyes? I used to have a boss who spelled loser as looser. Can't they see the difference? Or is it just ignorance? Even after spelling out the difference, they still spell one who does not suceed as a looser. Go figure.