Change the Constitution to Embrace Sharia, per Rauf!

[AllieBaba]

RAUF WRITES:

"People asked me right after the 9/11 attack as to why do movements with political agendas carry [Islamic] religious names? Why call it ‘Muslim Brotherhood’ or ‘Hezbollah (Party of Allah)’ or ‘Hamas’ or ‘Islamic Resistance Movement’? I answer them this—that the trend towards Islamic law and justice begins in religious movements,because secularism had failed to deliver what the Muslim wants, which is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

He said “ The only law that the Muslim needs exists already in the Koran and the Hadith.”

From an article titled “Sharing The Essence Of Our Beliefs” by Feisal Abdul Rauf, Al-Ghad Newspaper in Jordan, 5/9/2009 ÌÑíÏÉ ÇáÛÏ - ÇáÊÔÇÑß Ýí ÌæåÑ ãÚÊÞÏÇÊäÇ

 

[american chaos]

Claim to be in power but let your brother rule? Dictators of a feather is probably from the same family?

I dont know, what is it?

 

[AllieBaba]

You will note it's in Arabic. He doesn't write this shit in English.

"Abdul Rauf: First and foremost, we need to understand what Shariah requires from us. Second, we need to be a part of a larger group that is capable to give advice [to the government] as is done by lobbies in the West. Thirdly: We become an institutional group to provide benevolent needs in the society."

"The only law that the Muslim needs exists already in the Koran and the Hadith.”

"...how do we call for the principles and standards that the prophet (peace be upon him) used to build the Islamic state in Medina [Arabia]?



an Islamic state can be established in more than just in a single form or mold; it can be established through a kingdom or a democracy. The important issue is to establish the general fundamentals of [Islamic] Shariah that are required to govern. It is known that there are sets of standards that are accepted by [Muslim] scholars to organize the relationships between government and the governed."

"Rauf states: So we advise that when there is a problem in the relationship between state and religious institutions in the form of the question you just asked, that people need to use peaceful means to advise the governors and government institutions and use peaceful means that are available to send their message out to the masses.



And we also suggest to the governors and political institutions to consult [Muslim] religious institutions and [Muslim] personalities in the field so as to assure their decision making to reflect the spirit of Shariah."

(Translated verbatim, From Rauf’s interview on Hadielislam.com)

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[AllieBaba]

In is own words:

But it is important that we understand what is meant by Shariah law. Islamic law is about God's law, and it is not that far from what we read in the Declaration of Independence about "the Laws of Nature and Nature's God." The Declaration says "men are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights; that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

At the core of Shariah law are God's commandments, revealed in the Old Testament and revised in the New Testament and the Quran. The principles behind American secular law are similar to Shariah law - that we protect life, liberty and property, that we provide for the common welfare, that we maintain a certain amount of modesty. What Muslims want is to ensure that their secular laws are not in conflict with the Quran or the Hadith, the sayings of Muhammad.

Where there is a conflict, it is not with Shariah law itself but more often with the way the penal code is sometimes applied. Some aspects of this penal code and its laws pertaining to women flow out of the cultural context. The religious imperative is about justice and fairness. If you strive for justice and fairness in the penal code, then you are in keeping with moral imperative of the Shariah.

In America, we have a Constitution that created a three-branch form of government - legislative, executive and judiciary. The role of the judiciary is to ensure that the other two branches comply with the Constitution. What Muslims want is a judiciary that ensures that the laws are not in conflict with the Quran and the Hadith. Just as the Constitution has gone through interpretations, so does Shariah law.

The two pieces of unfinished business in Muslim countries are to revise the penal code so that it is responsive to modern realities and to ensure that the balance between the three branches of government is not out of kilter.

Rather than fear Shariah law, we should understand what it actually is.


Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf: What Shariah Law Is All About

 

[AllieBaba]

By golly, that sounds WONDERFUL! Let's throw over the Constitution and replace it with the Koran and Haddiths! After all, this Rauf guy says that's the best thing to do and he's a SAINT!

 

[AllieBaba]

Then we can be just like these other civilized countries, where wonderful men like Rauf have established and maintain sharia...

Cuz you know, if you just UNDERSTAND it, it's great!

Countries that embrace sharia:

1. Chechnya
2. Gambia
3. Aceh
4. West Java
5. Afghanistan
6. Iran
7. Pakistan
8. Saudi Arabi
9. Nigeria
10. Sudan
11. Iraq (prior to 2003)
12. Egypt
13. Buhrain
14. Azerbaijan

Wow, those countries are examples of peace and happiness, let's fall in as the esteemed imam says we should!

 

[Jarhead]

It is the same as comparing the Constitution to the Bible.

We in America are guided in principle by faith and in law by the constitution.

Based on what he said, it appears he is saying that the US should be guided in both by the Karan.

Or am I misunderstanding what he said?

 

[boedicca]

Gee whiz. What a celebration of the separation of Church and State.

 

[AllieBaba]

Shall we wait for our pro-terror friends to come by and say the source is suspect?

Of course the source is Rauf, but they'll just say he didn't really say that, that it's somebody impersonating him. Or that he meant to say something else.

 

[boedicca]

I expect we'll get the "it was edited or quoted out of context" lame excuse.

 

[AllieBaba]

Lol.
After all, I don't "vet" my sources.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

So, tell me where Rauf says that we should "change the constitution to embrace sharia"?

Cause I don't see that at all.

 

[Jarhead]

So, tell me where Rauf says that we should "change the constitution to embrace sharia"?

Cause I don't see that at all.

"What Muslims want is a judiciary that ensures that the laws are not in conflict with the Quran and the Hadith"

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Pelosi had it a*s-backwards. They should investigate where most of the funding for this Mosque is coming from instead. I would guess that most of the cash is coming from those Muslim nations mentioned on that earlier list of Muslim nations that support Sharia Law. Just follow the money.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

So, tell me where Rauf says that we should "change the constitution to embrace sharia"?

Cause I don't see that at all.

"What Muslims want is a judiciary that ensures that the laws are not in conflict with the Quran and the Hadith"

Then they should stay in whatever Godforsaken shithole they live in and they can stone people, amputate limbs and behead till their little hearts are content!

 

[LibocalypseNow]

This same Imam made some pretty awful remarks right after 911 as well. Maybe Pelosi should investigate him instead? Hmm?

 

[Modbert]

So wait, where did he say change the Constitution? It looks like to me he wants to change laws in these Muslim countries to be more fair.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/opinion/17dalrymple.html?_r=2&src=me&ref=general

Feisal Abdul Rauf of the Cordoba Initiative is one of America’s leading thinkers of Sufism, the mystical form of Islam, which in terms of goals and outlook couldn’t be farther from the violent Wahhabism of the jihadists. His videos and sermons preach love, the remembrance of God (or “zikr&#8221 and reconciliation. His slightly New Agey rhetoric makes him sound, for better or worse, like a Muslim Deepak Chopra. But in the eyes of Osama bin Laden and the Taliban, he is an infidel-loving, grave-worshiping apostate; they no doubt regard him as a legitimate target for assassination.

For such moderate, pluralistic Sufi imams are the front line against the most violent forms of Islam. In the most radical parts of the Muslim world, Sufi leaders risk their lives for their tolerant beliefs, every bit as bravely as American troops on the ground in Baghdad and Kabul do. Sufism is the most pluralistic incarnation of Islam — accessible to the learned and the ignorant, the faithful and nonbelievers — and is thus a uniquely valuable bridge between East and West.

While the West remains blind to the divisions and distinctions within Islam, the challenge posed by the Sufi vision of the faith is not lost on the extremists. This was shown most violently on July 2, when the Pakistani Taliban organized a double-suicide bombing of the Data Darbar, the largest Sufi shrine in Lahore, Pakistan’s second-largest city. The attack took place on a Thursday night, when the shrine was at its busiest; 42 people were killed and 175 were injured.

 

[Jarhead]

So wait, where did he say change the Constitution? It looks like to me he wants to change laws in these Muslim countries to be more fair.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/opinion/17dalrymple.html?_r=2&src=me&ref=general

Feisal Abdul Rauf of the Cordoba Initiative is one of America’s leading thinkers of Sufism, the mystical form of Islam, which in terms of goals and outlook couldn’t be farther from the violent Wahhabism of the jihadists. His videos and sermons preach love, the remembrance of God (or “zikr”) and reconciliation. His slightly New Agey rhetoric makes him sound, for better or worse, like a Muslim Deepak Chopra. But in the eyes of Osama bin Laden and the Taliban, he is an infidel-loving, grave-worshiping apostate; they no doubt regard him as a legitimate target for assassination.

For such moderate, pluralistic Sufi imams are the front line against the most violent forms of Islam. In the most radical parts of the Muslim world, Sufi leaders risk their lives for their tolerant beliefs, every bit as bravely as American troops on the ground in Baghdad and Kabul do. Sufism is the most pluralistic incarnation of Islam — accessible to the learned and the ignorant, the faithful and nonbelievers — and is thus a uniquely valuable bridge between East and West.

While the West remains blind to the divisions and distinctions within Islam, the challenge posed by the Sufi vision of the faith is not lost on the extremists. This was shown most violently on July 2, when the Pakistani Taliban organized a double-suicide bombing of the Data Darbar, the largest Sufi shrine in Lahore, Pakistan’s second-largest city. The attack took place on a Thursday night, when the shrine was at its busiest; 42 people were killed and 175 were injured.

In America, we have a Constitution that created a three-branch form of government - legislative, executive and judiciary. The role of the judiciary is to ensure that the other two branches comply with the Constitution. What Muslims want is a judiciary that ensures that the laws are not in conflict with the Quran and the Hadith. Just as the Constitution has gone through interpretations, so does Shariah law.

 

[Modbert]

In America, we have a Constitution that created a three-branch form of government - legislative, executive and judiciary. The role of the judiciary is to ensure that the other two branches comply with the Constitution. What Muslims want is a judiciary that ensures that the laws are not in conflict with the Quran and the Hadith. Just as the Constitution has gone through interpretations, so does Shariah law.

Nice try.

In America, we have a Constitution that created a three-branch form of government - legislative, executive and judiciary. The role of the judiciary is to ensure that the other two branches comply with the Constitution. What Muslims want is a judiciary that ensures that the laws are not in conflict with the Quran and the Hadith. Just as the Constitution has gone through interpretations, so does Shariah law.

The two pieces of unfinished business in Muslim countries are to revise the penal code so that it is responsive to modern realities and to ensure that the balance between the three branches of government is not out of kilter.

Also, I'm pretty sure Christians have strived for laws that don't go against the bible. Or does outlawing Abortion (it's not in the bible though) or Gay Marriage not protested by Christians because it goes against their faith?

What the Muslims want in their own countries is no different then what Christians want here in America in many cases. It's also no different then what many other religions want. This is no surprise at this point.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

As usual,Pelosi has things a*s-backwards. Instead of investigating good people who oppose this Mosque being built,she should investigate this Imam and just where all the money is coming from to build it. Hmm?