Change or no change in politics?

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  1. frigidweirdo
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    So, Trump's message "Make America Great Again" is all about CHANGE.

    He wants to CHANGE America so it's different. He wants to change immigration policy, trade policies, foreign policy, war policy, tax policy, LGBT policy, you name it, he's trying to CHANGE it.

    Then when a left winger suggest CHANGE, the right will say "well, if you don't like it, leave".

    Such a post has appeared on the "Canada Just Made Pot Legal - Leftist Emigration Underway" thread.

    So, what is it that they want? Change or not change?

    Or is this a case of compartmentalization.

    On the one hand they want the change they want, and will talk about how great change is, and then the change they don't want, they will talk about how change is really bad!

    And they don't seem to see the contradictions.
     
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    this is idiocy amplified way past stupidity.

    you want changes but you are NOT likely to want MY changes in the same light i likely don't want YOUR changes.

    not sure who shoved your lacy underoos up your ass this am but this is one of your poorest examples of whatever is you're trying to show a good example of.
     
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    The context of "change" is in the sense of dismantling the damaging policies and regulations both foreign and domestic foisted upon the country by Democrats and their Republicans-on-a-leash pets since FDR, in order to put the country back in line with its constitutional mandates.

    It will take awhile.
     
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    Lefties have been whining about politics for a half a century and now that they have a president with a set of balls who isn't going to roll over for bad treaties or open borders all of a sudden they like the status quo
     
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    You didn't say anything other than veiled insults.
     
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    Everyone whines about politics. What do you think you're doing in this post?

    Try responding to what I actually wrote.
     
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    they were far from veiled.
     
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    your own whining about politics is better and more important than someone elses whining about it?
     
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    Amazingly enough and what so few have come to understand about President Trump is that he is a non-partisan non-career politician. Our POTUS is neither republican nor democrat. That's the message. That's the change. No one really saw it coming. No one believed it could be pulled off. No one expected a personality like Donald Trump.

    We're talking drastic reformation here. Draining the swamp. When I voted for Obama in '08 I was full of excitement. Later in '12 I saw how he fought to distance himself and his message from HRC but in the end the old guard welled up and deep stated his entire image. Of course, once the Kool-Aid wore off most us realized he had been old guard establishment from the get go.

    Enter President Trump. Did anyone else grow up with a WWI or WWII vet around the house? Remember how they'd never even warn you once before disciplining you? They didn't care to hear about who did what or why. No. They only spoke in terms of basic right and wrong. I believe our POTUS is just such a man. Either something is right or it's wrong--no in between. No compromising core values.

    That's the change that matters. Everyone knows when they do wrong, see wrong, hear wrong. It's just very difficult to admit it to ourselves. Our president is out to right a whole lot of wrongs, not play old guard political games. He's all out of bubble gum so look out.
     
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    Seems pretty obvious that they want to return/restore America to a time they feel it was great.

    The Left wants to turn it into something different. "Fundamentally transform" it.

    Kind of a clear distinction there.
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