Change In Attack Direction

[Shattered]

If the truth bothers you...feel free not to read it.

We are talking about live born babies here. Out of the womb and alive.


You can try to deflect however you want. Senator Obama lied through his teeth to America.​

Dude.. Your posts are impossible to read.. Your signature's half a page long, centered, and your text is centered on top of that in giant print.

 

[Missourian]

Dude.. Your posts are impossible to read.. Your signature's half a page long, centered, and your text is centered on top of that in giant print.

Heh heh, sorry bout that...fixed it.

 

[jillian]

That " Love thy neighbor " stuff is so corny.

well, it's clear from your posts that you think so.

 

[DiveCon]

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. funny, factcheck.org says that the BS about Obama is just that... BS. But that's meaningless.

And I, personally, have no issues with someone deciding that THEY would never have an abortion. It's all good. But keep the Christian dogma and the anti-choice propaganda away from me.

Thanks.

geee, you didnt read the factchek that he posted, eh?

 

[WillowTree]

factcheck is like Wiki it is all slanted to the left. Don't depend on it. Like Obama it will lie to you.

 

[DiveCon]

factcheck is like Wiki it is all slanted to the left. Don't depend on it. Like Obama it will lie to you.

oh, i know
but when even THEY say Obama is lying, i think i can trust them on that one

 

[elvis]

Quick, deflect away from Obama's record (what little of it there is). ​

From Factcheck.org: Obama and 'Infanticide'

August 25, 2008

The facts about Obama's votes against 'Born Alive' bills in Illinois.

Summary

Anti-abortion activists accuse Obama of "supporting infanticide," and the National Right to Life Committee says he's conducted a "four-year effort to cover up his full role in killing legislation to protect born-alive survivors of abortions." Obama says they're "lying."

At issue is Obama's opposition to Illinois legislation in 2001, 2002 and 2003 that would have defined any aborted fetus that showed signs of life as a "born alive infant" entitled to legal protection, even if doctors believe it could not survive.

Obama opposed the 2001 and 2002 "born alive" bills as backdoor attacks on a woman's legal right to abortion, but he says he would have been "fully in support" of a similar federal bill that President Bush had signed in 2002, because it contained protections for Roe v. Wade.

We find that, as the NRLC said in a recent statement, Obama voted in committee against the 2003 state bill that was nearly identical to the federal act he says he would have supported. Both contained identical clauses saying that nothing in the bills could be construed to affect legal rights of an unborn fetus, according to an undisputed summary written immediately after the committee's 2003 mark-up session....

...Obama campaign statement, June 30: Illinois And Federal Born Alive Infant Protection Acts Did Not Include Exactly The Same Language. The Illinois legislation read, "A live child born as a result of an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law." The Born Alive Infant Protections Act read, "Nothing in this section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being 'born alive' as defined in this section." [SB 1082, Held in Health and Human Services, 3/13/03; Session Sine Die, 1/11/05; BAIPA, Public Law 107-207]

The statement was still on Obama's Web site as of this writing, Aug. 25, long after Obama had accused his detractors of "lying." But Obama's claim is wrong. In fact, by the time the HHS Committee voted on the bill, it did contain language identical to the federal act.




There is more to this article at factcheck.org.

Infanticide​

Maybe this is the reason people are angry at McCain rallies.

 

[Missourian]

Maybe this is the reason people are angry at McCain rallies.

It makes me want to cry.






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[WhiteLion]

You don't really believe anything that any wingnut site called "bornalivetruth.org" says, do you?

It's really a shame that the right wingnuts keep trying to politicize something that isn't polticized anywhere else in the world.

This just in URGENT: Big story about to break, we are one step closer to Rezko giving Obama up to federal prosecutors

URGENT: Big story about to break, we are one step closer to Rezko giving Obama up to federal prosecutors HillBuzz

 

[WhiteLion]

factcheck is like Wiki it is all slanted to the left. Don't depend on it. Like Obama it will lie to you.

Exactly right Willow