Census Employment Bubble Bursts

[boedicca]

The cooking of the employment figures with 1.2M temporary Census workers is now over.

Post-recession unemployment 'scariest ever' job chart show its worst than WW2 | Mail Online


And we continue to have the worst post recession jobs recover since WWII.

 

[william the wie]

Expect more decliines

 

[Truthmatters]

Cooking????

how the fuck were they supposed to do the census?

 

[pinqy]

The cooking of the employment figures with 1.2M temporary Census workers is now over.

How is that "cooking?" Are you saying the census workers shouldn't have been counted as employed? And since for many, the census job was part time in addition to their normal job (part or full time), it would only have boosted the employment numbers from the establishment survey (which counts a person with 2 jobs twice), but would not have affected the unemployment rate (which counts each multiple job-holders only once).

Did the Census temporarily add jobs that everyone knew were going away? Sure. But that applies for all temp jobs, too.

 

[boedicca]

Census productivity addressed here:

The Census just added 600,000 more workers for the door to door count.

I’ve discovered that many of our new enumerators, working on the Nonresponse Followup activities of the 2010 Census, are Facebook fans or have looked at my blog, so this is a message to them:

Welcome to the 2010 Census!

You are the heart of the operations for the second half of the census. To everyone you meet as an enumerator, you are also the face of the US Federal government. It’s a big responsibility; you must treat everyone with respect, even though not everyone will treat you with similar respect.

Our “customers” are those who have not yet been counted. You’ll probably meet some people with very little understanding of the census, and some with very deep understanding. Each person will have their own perspective on what we’re asking of them. Listening to what they have to say is an important step for you to effectively communicate our message to them.

You’re probably working in neighborhoods around your own home, but may have assignments in parts that aren’t as familiar to you. One of the interesting things in the job is meeting people you ordinarily would not know. It’s an adventure; remember to enjoy that part of the job.

We are relying on you – to make sure we count everyone once and only once and in the right place. We are asking about the April 1, 2010, composition of the houses you visit. You’ll probably find some complicated situations that aren’t easy applications of the training guidelines. Ask for help when you need it, to make sure we get things right.

According to the Census website, the total field operations for the Census consists of 1.2M people.

Math:

There are approx. 113M households in the U.S. The response rate on the census was 72% ( 2010 Census ), which means 31.6M households need to be visited.

With 1.2M field operations staff, that comes to 26 households to visit person, or 52 if working in teams of two. The door-door phase goes from May through July, 3 months. Assuming 60 workdays (which is what a normal person would work during this time)...well, let's lower it to 52, that means only 1 household visit per team per day.

I don't get it. I suspect there is a minority of Census workers who are quite busy (at least a couple of them are USMB members) while a bunch of them are doing nothing. My guesstimate is that the census is overstaffed by a factor of at least 3X.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/general/116209-census-productivity.html

 

[boedicca]

And here's a link to the cost trends. The 2010 Census cost more than double on a per capita basis adjusted for inflation.

The Cost of the Census | How Much Does it Cost to Take the U.S. Census?

 

[william the wie]

This was not a big secret.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The cooking of the employment figures with 1.2M temporary Census workers is now over.

How is that "cooking?" Are you saying the census workers shouldn't have been counted as employed? And since for many, the census job was part time in addition to their normal job (part or full time), it would only have boosted the employment numbers from the establishment survey (which counts a person with 2 jobs twice), but would not have affected the unemployment rate (which counts each multiple job-holders only once).

Did the Census temporarily add jobs that everyone knew were going away? Sure. But that applies for all temp jobs, too.

not to speak for boedicca...but perhaps what he is referring to was when the census hiring took place, the media had numerous articles on the improved employment numbers - without mentioning the scew from the census additions. At the same time when the census workers began to lose the jobs - the same media outlets when reporting the losses - attributed the loss to the census workers. Make sense?

 

[boedicca]

I don't recalling claiming it was.

The Census was overstaffed by at least 100%.

 

[Truthmatters]

2010 United States Census - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Cost
The Government Accountability Office estimated in 2004 that the cost of the 2010 Census would be over $11 billion.[13] In a detailed report to Congress, it called on the Census Bureau to address cost and design issues.[14]

Lockheed Martin won a six-year, $500 million contract to capture and standardize data for the census. The contract includes systems, facilities, and staffing.[citation needed] Information technology will be about a quarter of the projected $11.3 billion cost of the decennial census.[15] This was the first census to use hand-held computing devices with GPS capability, although they were only used for the address canvassing operation. The Census Bureau chose to conduct the primary operation, Non-Response Follow Up (NRFU), without using the handheld computing devices.[16][17]

In August 2010, Commerce Secretary Gary Locke announced that the census operational costs came in significantly under budget; of an almost $7 billion operational budget:[18]

$650 million was saved in the budget for the door-to-door questioning (a.k.a. NRFU) phase because 72 percent of households returned mailed questionnaires;
$150 million was saved because of lower-than-planned costs in areas including Alaska and tribal lands; and
the $800 million emergency fund ended up not being needed.
Secretary Locke credited the management practices of Census Bureau Director Robert Groves, citing in particular the decision to buy additional advertising in locations where responses lagged, which improved the overall response rate. The agency also has begun to rely more on questioning neighbors or other reliable third parties when a person could not be immediately reached at home, which reduced the cost of follow-up visits. Census data for roughly 22 percent, or more than 1 in 5, of U.S. households that did not reply by mail were based on such outside interviews, Groves said.[18]

 

[Truthmatters]

Costs of the Census; Some Good News - The Director's Blog

 

[boedicca]

The cooking of the employment figures with 1.2M temporary Census workers is now over.

How is that "cooking?" Are you saying the census workers shouldn't have been counted as employed? And since for many, the census job was part time in addition to their normal job (part or full time), it would only have boosted the employment numbers from the establishment survey (which counts a person with 2 jobs twice), but would not have affected the unemployment rate (which counts each multiple job-holders only once).

Did the Census temporarily add jobs that everyone knew were going away? Sure. But that applies for all temp jobs, too.

not to speak for boedicca...but perhaps what he is referring to was when the census hiring took place, the media had numerous articles on the improved employment numbers - without mentioning the scew from the census additions. At the same time when the census workers began to lose the jobs - the same media outlets when reporting the losses - attributed the loss to the census workers. Make sense?

I'm a gal.

The Obama Administration exploited the 1.2M temp census workers to create an illusion of job recovery which was bogus. Now the game has ended, and UE is worsening.

Just as many of us expected.

It could have been prevented if the focus had been on fostering a climate favorable for economic growth by ensuring:

- Low and fair tax rates
- Sound monetary policy
- Restrained spending
- Enforcement of the Rule of Law & a regulatory environment consistent with such

But they chose instead to do the opposite on all fronts.

 

[boedicca]

Costs of the Census; Some Good News - The Director's Blog

I have a policy of not clicking on links for which the poster has provided no commentary on why they are relevant to the discussion.

 

[Truthmatters]

then remain uneducated because you fear a link.

Why the hell are some of you people so damned proud of refusing information?

 

[Truthmatters]

The facts handed you your ass huh boody

 

[boedicca]

then remain uneducated because you fear a link.

Why the hell are some of you people so damned proud of refusing information?

You can't explain why the link is relevaltn. Seems to me you are afraid of it.

The 2010 Census was a bloated mess, costing at least double what it should have. It is a perfect metaphor for Obamanomics in general.

Now, back to the main topic: Obamanomics is an epic fail at job creation.

 

[Truthmatters]

its the census directors blog silly and says so

 

[Truthmatters]

Census productivity addressed here:

The Census just added 600,000 more workers for the door to door count.

I’ve discovered that many of our new enumerators, working on the Nonresponse Followup activities of the 2010 Census, are Facebook fans or have looked at my blog, so this is a message to them:

Welcome to the 2010 Census!

You are the heart of the operations for the second half of the census. To everyone you meet as an enumerator, you are also the face of the US Federal government. It’s a big responsibility; you must treat everyone with respect, even though not everyone will treat you with similar respect.

Our “customers” are those who have not yet been counted. You’ll probably meet some people with very little understanding of the census, and some with very deep understanding. Each person will have their own perspective on what we’re asking of them. Listening to what they have to say is an important step for you to effectively communicate our message to them.

You’re probably working in neighborhoods around your own home, but may have assignments in parts that aren’t as familiar to you. One of the interesting things in the job is meeting people you ordinarily would not know. It’s an adventure; remember to enjoy that part of the job.

We are relying on you – to make sure we count everyone once and only once and in the right place. We are asking about the April 1, 2010, composition of the houses you visit. You’ll probably find some complicated situations that aren’t easy applications of the training guidelines. Ask for help when you need it, to make sure we get things right.

According to the Census website, the total field operations for the Census consists of 1.2M people.

Math:

There are approx. 113M households in the U.S. The response rate on the census was 72% ( 2010 Census ), which means 31.6M households need to be visited.

With 1.2M field operations staff, that comes to 26 households to visit person, or 52 if working in teams of two. The door-door phase goes from May through July, 3 months. Assuming 60 workdays (which is what a normal person would work during this time)...well, let's lower it to 52, that means only 1 household visit per team per day.

I don't get it. I suspect there is a minority of Census workers who are quite busy (at least a couple of them are USMB members) while a bunch of them are doing nothing. My guesstimate is that the census is overstaffed by a factor of at least 3X.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/general/116209-census-productivity.html

Hell this is a link to another of YOUR posts hack




Boody just owned herself

 

[boedicca]

God, you are a blithering idiot TM.

 

[william the wie]

The facts handed you your ass huh boody

TM the census budget is not relevant to cooking employment books.