Celebrate, boys, you have won

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    Well, I suppose I should be angry at the continued lies concerning the e-mails, the continued displays of absolute ignorance passing here as wisdom. But there is no use in it.

    I just finished reading the Copenhagen Diagnosis. We are not going to make it. Don't worry about a 2 degree C increase. Can it be held to 4? More likely going to be at least 6 degrees C.

    When the tipping points kick in, it will not be just one at a time, with nice predictable effects, it will be a cascade effect. And no one has any real idea of what will result. One such point has probably already been passed concerning the North Polar Ice.

    So go ahead and have your big and little orgasms all over yourselves about hacked e-mails. Go ahead and denigrate all the scientists that have tried to warn you about what is coming down the road. It no longer matters. You have succeeded. We are going to find out just how much a PETM type event impacts a civilization that has nearly seven billion humans in it.
     
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    yay for common sense !:woohoo:
     
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    http://www.grist.org/article/2009-11-10-we-have-met-the-deniers-and-they-are-us/

    The reality we’re denying? We’re denying that we’ve put so much carbon into the atmosphere already that positive feedback loops are well on their way to amplification hell.[1] We’re denying that time lags between carbon emissions and their effects are frighteningly relevant, and that the disastrous effects we’re seeing now are from emissions of 30 years ago. We’re denying that non-linear responses of physical systems cannot be calculated and therefore are perilously ignored. We’re denying that our consumption and waste have far exceeded planetary capacity, possibly irreparably so.[2]

    We’re denying reality because we’re not talking about it; we’re invoking fantasies and free lunches instead.[3]

    Why do we act like this? Because just like the skeptics, we are inordinately fond of our cushy lives. Because we don’t want to give up our privileged, well-stocked existences any more than the skeptics do (and enter the realms of unthinkable thoughts, to wit, go back to the jungles? the caves? the starving, thirsting millions—or is that billions?—never, never, never, not us). Because in our heart of hearts, we want the skeptics to be right. We are brothers and sisters. And so we join them.

    But our denial is much, much worse, because we are the ones presumably advocating for action on global climate disruption. And when we fall short, who’s left to do the job?

    Here’s an example, in a note from a friend of mine and fellow climate campaigner:
     
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    Scientists who do not fully participate in the scientific process are more aptly called charlatans. We are to believe their hysterical claims about tipping points when they have been deceptive about everything else?
     
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    No worries, the democraps will pass plenty of other shitty legislation........:clap2:
     
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    Earth will find it's own balance and ya know what ? That balance just may not include humans which is really all you care about.
     
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    Charlatans driven by vain arrogance and their own greed.
     
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    [youtube]fIRb8TigJ28[/youtube]
     
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    The great climate change science scandal - Times Online

    Read the whole article and weep, Old Rocks. The scam is over.
     
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    The great climate change science scandal - Times Online

    Summed up quite nicely.
     

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