CDC: Guns Save Lives

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    Narrative Fail.

    Study from a few years ago, funny how the left ignores science and goes with emotions.

    Majority of gun related deaths are from suicide. And as I posted in another thread, psychologists are saying the dramatic increase in suicides is due to people not having God in their lives and feeling their lives have no purpose.

    CDC Study: Use of Firearms for Self-Defense is ‘Important Crime Deterrent’
     
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    You can see it from the liberal posters who visit this web site. They are miserable wretches, and try to demean the rest of US who believe in the higher power. Those miscreants insult us as Rubes, because We the People hold onto our God and Guns, which prevents them from achieving their wet dream of total subjugation to a tyrannical government who gives them just enough to keep them voting for those that keep them miserable and poor.

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    If you would have taken the 10 minutes necessary to look at the report yourself you would know this is fake news.

    First, it was not a report or a study but a paper laying out the research priorities relating to reducing gun violence.

    Second, this paper makes no conclusions at all. It does though specifically state that more research is needed to determine the effectiveness of guns for self defense.

    As a gun owner and a 2nd Amendment advocate, I hate people who spread fake news as it undermines legit discussions on the topic


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    One other thing, Guns don't save people..People with guns, save people.
    Can save a person.................By itself can not save a person...
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    Guns take live, funny how some ignore reality.
     
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    Plastic forks, bathrooms, and buckets take lives too.
     
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    Sorry dufus, the report is done.

    https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1#ii

    1. Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker:
    “Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was ‘used’ by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies.”

    2. Defensive uses of guns are common:
    “Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year…in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.”

    3. Mass shootings and accidental firearm deaths account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths, and both are declining:
    “The number of public mass shootings of the type that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School accounted for a very small fraction of all firearm-related deaths. Since 1983 there have been 78 events in which 4 or more individuals were killed by a single perpetrator in 1 day in the United States, resulting in 547 victims and 476 injured persons.” The report also notes, “Unintentional firearm-related deaths have steadily declined during the past century. The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.”

    4. “Interventions” (i.e, gun control) such as background checks, so-called assault rifle bans and gun-free zones produce “mixed” results:
    “Whether gun restrictions reduce firearm-related violence is an unresolved issue.” The report could not conclude whether “passage of right-to-carry laws decrease or increase violence crime.”

    5. Gun buyback/turn-in programs are “ineffective” in reducing crime:
    “There is empirical evidence that gun turn in programs are ineffective, as noted in the 2005 NRC study Firearms and Violence: A Critical Review. For example, in 2009, an estimated 310 million guns were available to civilians in the United States (Krouse, 2012), but gun buy-back programs typically recover less than 1,000 guns (NRC, 2005). On the local level, buy-backs may increase awareness of firearm violence. However, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for example, guns recovered in the buy-back were not the same guns as those most often used in homicides and suicides (Kuhn et al., 2002).”

    6. Stolen guns and retail/gun show purchases account for very little crime:
    “More recent prisoner surveys suggest that stolen guns account for only a small percentage of guns used by convicted criminals. … According to a 1997 survey of inmates, approximately 70 percent of the guns used or possess by criminals at the time of their arrest came from family or friends, drug dealers, street purchases, or the underground market.”

    7. The vast majority of gun-related deaths are not homicides, but suicides:
    “Between the years 2000-2010 firearm-related suicides significantly outnumbered homicides for all age groups, annually accounting for 61 percent of the more than 335,600 people who died from firearms related violence in the United States.”
     
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    Why then do mass murderers not choose to use plastic forks, bathrooms and buckets in lieu of guns?
     
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    Because they use trucks, and gallons of gasoline to do their crimes. Both methods I list here have greater death numbers than any gun crime BTW.
     
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    True, T. McVeigh comes to mind, but for every McVeigh and Randolph (Olympic bomber), many more mass shooting occur. McVeigh killed many more than each of the mass killings by guns, but the quantity and number of events and victims is far and away greater than these two outliars.
     

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