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    ROME — The Vatican expressed “shock” on Friday at the raid on Thursday by the Belgian police of church offices in their search for hidden evidence of child sex abuse by priests.

    In a bold and provocative assertion of state over church as anger rises in Europe over abuse by priests, the police not only detained the members of the Belgian Bishops’ Conference for nine hours on Thursday while searching for documents related to sex abuse cases, they also drilled into the tombs of two cardinals in the Brussels Cathedral.

    Vatican Criticizes Raid on Belgian Church Offices - NYTimes.com

    Was the drilling into the tombs of two cardinals necessary?
     
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    The Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) has released this statement:

    This raid is precisely what's needed, not just in Belgium but in other church offices across the globe. Law enforcement officials must stop giving the Catholic hierarchy a 'free pass' when it comes to clergy sex crimes and cover ups. Police and prosecutors need to step up, and promptly and thoroughly investigate allegations against predator priests and corrupt bishops, and use their full powers to gain access to and control over church records that likely document the crimes and cover ups.

    Kids will be safer only when secular authorities stop giving excessive deference to church officials and start doing all that they can to catch, expose, prosecute and jail both child molesting clerics and their complicit colleagues and supervisors.

    We call on all citizens of Belgium - Catholic and non-Catholic - to contact law enforcement with any information or suspicions they may have - however old, small, or seemingly insignificant - so that this can be an effective investigation that results in the imprisonment of those who hurt children and those who enable others to hurt children
    http://blog.beliefnet.com/beliefbea...gian-cardinals-home.html#ixzz0rvGmymRO]Clergy Abuse Investigators Raid Church Headquarters, Cardinal's Home in Belgium - Belief Beat[/url]
     
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    Sky Dancer, the RCC has been running the world's oldest and most prolific child sex abuse ring for decades. If the premises had not been RCC owned, and the cops had opened a closet or safe, would your reaction be different?

    We are never going to get justice for victims or eradicate this evil unless we treat the people involved as suspects and not as idols, authority figures, diplomats or any other form of "better than us" type people.
     
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    I agree with the sentiment expressed in the survivors letter. I don't know that it was necessary to drill into the tombs of two cardinals however. Unless they bury papers with their corpses.
     
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    The Catholic Church is not running sex rings. Get in the real world.
    Many churches of all denominations have swept under the rug abuse all the way to the top and those were not running sex rings either.
    Covering up is different than actively running a sex ring. I know many good Catholics in offices of power and they do not cover this stuff up. I have worked these cases and have seen both sides of the spectrum. Many Catholic dioceses cooperate fully and get help from the Vatican in doing so.
    The Vatican is a large power base with dozens of factions. A generic catchy gimmick phrase is easy to let out but it is totally inacurate as to the total picture.
     
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    Take away the factoid that the premises belonged to the RCC. In a police search of suspects' premises, which containers do you think should be off limits?
     
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    We disagree, Gadawg. In any event, if the cops had grounds to carry out the search, they had an obligation to be thorough.
     
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    So, they're shocked that someone would tell on them?
     
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