Catholics And The Abortion Vote

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    Democratic Strategists Issue Memo on Loss of White Catholics




    I suppose we can take this with a grain of salt, but still interesting.
     
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    yawn. SSDD.
     
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    Democrats just don't get it do they? You can't speak both sides of your mouth on this one. You can't on the one hand promote abstinence and the other encouraging them to be promiscious by giving them false assurances that they can do it "safely". Nor can you say you are in favor of choice and then rob innocent children of their choices.

    In fact, without consequences to actions there are no choices. By trying to eliminate the consequences you are in effect trying to eliminate choice. But you can only pretend there aren't consequenses to justify bad choices for so long. Eventually, bad choices will leave you miserable and alone.

    Pro lifers are pro choice as well. That's what the left doesn't understand. The pro life crowd is in favor of the right choice. Life. If you refuse to choose between whats right and whats wrong then whats the point of having a choice? Can you really be pro choice if you dont exercise that choice? If you are so in favor of choice let the American people choose rather than forcing it on the public through the acts of power hungry judges. Evil wins when good men do nothing.
     
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    I agree Avatar, but the Democrats are getting away with it to some extent with people who just WANT to believe you can have it both ways....shame :trolls:
     
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    I assume they thought that those denying the Eucharist would be seen as "intolerant." They just don't get it that many people are actually intelligent enough to see through their rhetoric. They really cannot see that people actually disagree with their point of view. Amazing.
     
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    Why do you think that it is wise to keep children ignorant of all things sexual until they are married? It's perfectly fine to suggest abstinence as a strategy to avoid unwanted pregnancy and disease, but if you think that the best policy is to avoid telling kids the dangers involved and the steps needed to avoid the dangers, then you need to have your head examined.

    No, let the individual choose within guidelines. What an individual does with their body is none of your business. As noone is busting down anyone's door and dragging them off for a forced abortion, your argument holds no water.
     
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    On what planet is teaching teens to be responsible by refraining from sexual activities outside marriage keeping them ignorant? It's quite the opposite of ignorant. In order to be responsible you have to have knowledge. Why do you want to give them a condom and keeping them ignorant of the dangers involved in sex when its misused?

    I have no problem letting people do what they want with their own body. The problem is abortion has nothing to do with doing what you want with your own body. its about killing an another person because you were irresponsible with your own body. You made your choice when you put yourself in a position to become pregnant.

    Let the people decide whether we should allow abortion or not. What exactly are you afraid of? I understand you might not like the Democratic process, but the people have a right to make their own laws. And btw contrary to what you are trying to assert, it definately is my business to protect those who are innocent. It definately is my business to stand up for what's right. It definately is my business to see my tax money doesn't go to murdering children. I definately is my business to encourage people to be responsible because no man or woman is an island. The actions of individuals effect society as a whole. and as part of society I have a right and responsibility to advocate for making society better.

    I must admit it's always a good sign when the only argument the opposition has is to try argue that I don't have a right to voice my opinion. When people have to silence their opponents from speaking out, that means they know they are on the losing end of the argument and can't defend their position. Beauty is you can't silence the opposition. That's the beauty of the United States. God bless America.

    Oh and btw, the abortions by their very support of abortion have dictated that their movement will die out. No movement can survive more than a generation or two when you are actively killing the people who are likely to replace you in the population.
     
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    You're the one who said that you can't teach abstinence and contraception together, not me.


    As long as it's something you agree with.... :blah2:

    Notice I added within guidelines...I think a woman should be able to have an abortion for whatever reason within the first trimester...after that she should carry to term unless her life is in danger.

    Quote me once where I said anything to support this bullshit statement. Just because you disagree with my stand is no excuse for you to start making up your own ideas of my ideologies.

    All those rights and you're still wrong!

    I must admit that it's always a good sign when the only argument the opposition has it to accuse me of trying to shut them up....:blah2: :blah2:

    Agreed, kinda.

    Too ridiculous to dignify a response!
     

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