Catholic Bishops Issue Scathing Release Calling Biden‘s Contraception Claim ’Not a Fa

[longknife]

Orgs Filing Suit Against HHS Mandate Debunk Biden's Debate Defense

In a statement released on Friday, the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty announced that some of the leading Catholic institutions in the United States are filing a brief in support of the Becket Fund’s appeal to the D.C. Circuit on behalf of Wheaton College and Belmont Abbey College as they challenge the HHS mandate.

The Becket Fund represents many of the religious institutions and Catholic organizations currently suing the Obama administration over the mandate that requires all employers, including religious institutions, to provide free contraception, sterilization, and abortifacients to all their employees through their health insurance plans. In its press release, the Fund indicates that The Catholic University of America, the Catholic Archbishop of Washington, D.C., and Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C. have all urged the courts, in their brief, to address the violation of religious liberty as presented in the HHS mandate.

According to the Becket Fund, the brief filed by these Catholic institutions “comes less than one day after the Vice President of the United States stated” during his debate with Congressman Paul Ryan:

[L]et me make it absolutely clear. No religious institution—Catholic or otherwise, including Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital—none has to either refer for contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. That is a fact. That is a fact.

“But the facts are exactly the reverse,” asserted Kyle Duncan, General Counsel of the Becket Fund. “Under the mandate, nearly every Catholic hospital, charity, university, and diocese in the United States—along with millions of institutions of other faiths—must refer for, must pay for, and must act as a vehicle for contraception, sterilization, and abortion-inducing drugs. If they do not, they face millions in fines. That is a fact.”

In addition to the Catholic institutions, thirteen states, The Cato Institute, the American Civil Rights Union, The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, The American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists, the American Center for Law and Justice, and the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, among others, have also filed on Friday on behalf of Wheaton and Belmont Abbey colleges.

Currently, there are now over 35 separate lawsuits that challenge the HHS mandate.

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[NYcarbineer]

Classic phoney outrage from the Catholic Church...

...Georgetown University ALREADY provides insurance that covers contraception,

in compliance with a Virginia state mandate, as do many other Catholic run institutions, under various state laws.


Catholic Clergy Raises False Alarms About Obama Birth Control Mandate

 

[Care4all]

Catholic Bishops Correct Joe Biden’s Contraceptive Claims During Debate | Video | TheBlaze.com

With regard to the assault on the Catholic Church, let me make it absolutely clear. No religious institution—Catholic or otherwise, including Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital—none has to either refer contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide,” he said. “That is a fact. That is a fact.”


For all of you Independent Mid-Westerners and New Englanders, let this be a warning that this ticket of Obama/Biden don't have the first clue about any Judeo/Christian value, not one. God was kicked out, boo'd by the entire Democrat Party. This is not the same Democrat Party any longer. It has been hijacked by radical Marxists, Homosexuals.. Remember that when you go to vote..

choose what you wish to believe all you want....but he was not lying about any of those religious institutions having to PAY for birth control....

Insurance companies came to a compromise with the whitehouse aqnd agreed to pay for the cost of birth control coverage if there was any, WITHOUT raising the premiums for the religious social services. (Religious Churches/synagogues/mosques/temples are exempt and have always been exempt and will always be exempt.)

Also, 26 States already have laws in their states that MANDATES birth control coverage from the insurance companies....this was long before "obamacare". Many if not all of these insurance companies in those states, did NOT raise their premiums when they were mandated to have this coverage because they felt there would be no overall cost increase for them....less pregnancies, saved them monies that would be spent, thus covering the cost of birth control and other cost savings by having it avail through their insurance plans.

And as far as your LIE about the Democratic Party ALL booing God....

Let you be judged on judgement day for your lies....and your supposed Christianity and actions, as IN the parable of the sheep and the goats....

AMEN.

 

[daveman]

As compared to the lies that most deeply religious people spout off about, really. Your conviction to "truth" is not subject to question. And the candidate that sat opposite of the Vice-President should not be held to his lies about religion.

Yeah, we get it...Your Lord Obama and his Acolytes can do no wrong.

Sheep.

 

[California Girl]

Catholic Bishops Correct Joe Biden’s Contraceptive Claims During Debate | Video | TheBlaze.com

With regard to the assault on the Catholic Church, let me make it absolutely clear. No religious institution—Catholic or otherwise, including Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital—none has to either refer contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide,” he said. “That is a fact. That is a fact.”


For all of you Independent Mid-Westerners and New Englanders, let this be a warning that this ticket of Obama/Biden don't have the first clue about any Judeo/Christian value, not one. God was kicked out, boo'd by the entire Democrat Party. This is not the same Democrat Party any longer. It has been hijacked by radical Marxists, Homosexuals.. Remember that when you go to vote..

choose what you wish to believe all you want....but he was not lying about any of those religious institutions having to PAY for birth control....

Insurance companies came to a compromise with the whitehouse aqnd agreed to pay for the cost of birth control coverage if there was any, WITHOUT raising the premiums for the religious social services. (Religious Churches/synagogues/mosques/temples are exempt and have always been exempt and will always be exempt.)

Also, 26 States already have laws in their states that MANDATES birth control coverage from the insurance companies....this was long before "obamacare". Many if not all of these insurance companies in those states, did NOT raise their premiums when they were mandated to have this coverage because they felt there would be no overall cost increase for them....less pregnancies, saved them monies that would be spent, thus covering the cost of birth control and other cost savings by having it avail through their insurance plans.

And as far as your LIE about the Democratic Party ALL booing God....

Let you be judged on judgement day for your lies....and your supposed Christianity and actions, as IN the parable of the sheep and the goats....

AMEN.

Utter bullshit. And Catholics know it is bullshit.

 

[daveman]

Link?

Certainly!

In response to Ryan’s accurate charge that the HHS Mandate under ObamaCare forces religious institutions to violate their consciences to pay for services their faith opposes, Biden claimed the following:

With regard to the assault on the Catholic Church, let me make it absolutely clear. No religious institution—Catholic or otherwise, including Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital—none has to either refer contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. That is a fact. That is a fact.​

Nothing could be farther from the truth. Indeed, one might ask Biden if Georgetown is not being compelled to pay for contraception, then what exactly was behind the ruckus about Sandra Fluke’s complaints about the university’s refusal to do so. Biden’s claim was not only an offensive falsehood, it was a stupid one since even his liberal supporters know that is what is happening.​

And what did the Catholic Church have to say about it?

This is not a fact. The HHS mandate contains a narrow, four-part exemption for certain "religious employers." That exemption was made final in February and does not extend to "Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital," or any other religious charity that offers its services to all, regardless of the faith of those served.

HHS has proposed an additional "accommodation" for religious organizations like these, which HHS itself describes as "non-exempt." That proposal does not even potentially relieve these organizations from the obligation "to pay for contraception" and "to be a vehicle to get contraception." They will have to serve as a vehicle, because they will still be forced to provide their employees with health coverage, and that coverage will still have to include sterilization, contraception, and abortifacients. They will have to pay for these things, because the premiums that the organizations (and their employees) are required to pay will still be applied, along with other funds, to cover the cost of these drugs and surgeries.​

Biden lied.

I was actually looking for a link to the "Biden says Cathloic bishops support the ACA" claim, as I already stated that both Biden and Ryan are correct about the ACA contraception claim.

Actually, no, Biden is NOT correct. That is undeniable.

 

[daveman]

Classic phoney outrage from the Catholic Church...

...Georgetown University ALREADY provides insurance that covers contraception,

in compliance with a Virginia state mandate, as do many other Catholic run institutions, under various state laws.


Catholic Clergy Raises False Alarms About Obama Birth Control Mandate

Georgetown provides contraception coverage as long as it's to remedy a medical condition and not to prevent pregnancy.

Georgetown University :: Office of Student Affairs :: Student Health Insurance

Q. Are medications to prevent pregnancy or procedures to prevent or terminate pregnancy covered?

A. No, medications and procedures for birth control are not covered. The following notice is required by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act:

NOTICE TO PLAN PARTICIPANTS
The organization that sponsors your health plan has certified that it qualifies for a temporary enforcement safe harbor with respect to the Federal requirement to cover contraceptive services without cost sharing. During this one-year period, coverage under your health plan will not include coverage of contraceptive services.

Q. Are medications to prevent pregnancy covered when prescribed for treatment of a covered sickness?

A. Yes, your health care provider can document the medical necessity and a medical override for non-contraceptive reasons may allow for insurance coverage. To purchase such medications with your Pharmacy Card, ask providers outside of the GU Student Health Center (SHC) to complete the Medication Override Form and fax it to Gallagher Koster Insurance Agency, 617-479-0860. Note: The SHC will submit the Medication Override for you.​

The Catholic Church doesn't need some arrogant asshole liberal to dictate to it when it should be outraged.

I know you feel you have that authority, but tough shit. You don't.

 

[AmyNation]

Certainly!

In response to Ryan’s accurate charge that the HHS Mandate under ObamaCare forces religious institutions to violate their consciences to pay for services their faith opposes, Biden claimed the following:

With regard to the assault on the Catholic Church, let me make it absolutely clear. No religious institution—Catholic or otherwise, including Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital—none has to either refer contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. That is a fact. That is a fact.​

Nothing could be farther from the truth. Indeed, one might ask Biden if Georgetown is not being compelled to pay for contraception, then what exactly was behind the ruckus about Sandra Fluke’s complaints about the university’s refusal to do so. Biden’s claim was not only an offensive falsehood, it was a stupid one since even his liberal supporters know that is what is happening.​

And what did the Catholic Church have to say about it?

This is not a fact. The HHS mandate contains a narrow, four-part exemption for certain "religious employers." That exemption was made final in February and does not extend to "Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital," or any other religious charity that offers its services to all, regardless of the faith of those served.

HHS has proposed an additional "accommodation" for religious organizations like these, which HHS itself describes as "non-exempt." That proposal does not even potentially relieve these organizations from the obligation "to pay for contraception" and "to be a vehicle to get contraception." They will have to serve as a vehicle, because they will still be forced to provide their employees with health coverage, and that coverage will still have to include sterilization, contraception, and abortifacients. They will have to pay for these things, because the premiums that the organizations (and their employees) are required to pay will still be applied, along with other funds, to cover the cost of these drugs and surgeries.​

Biden lied.

I was actually looking for a link to the "Biden says Cathloic bishops support the ACA" claim, as I already stated that both Biden and Ryan are correct about the ACA contraception claim.

Actually, no, Biden is NOT correct. That is undeniable.

Except that it's being denied, and I already posted a link about it. We could go back and forth and continue to posts links, some that say Im right, and some that say you're right.

However I'm still interested in a link to Joe Biden claiming Catholic bishops support the ACA.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Classic phoney outrage from the Catholic Church...

...Georgetown University ALREADY provides insurance that covers contraception,

in compliance with a Virginia state mandate, as do many other Catholic run institutions, under various state laws.


Catholic Clergy Raises False Alarms About Obama Birth Control Mandate

Georgetown provides contraception coverage as long as it's to remedy a medical condition and not to prevent pregnancy.

Georgetown University :: Office of Student Affairs :: Student Health Insurance

Q. Are medications to prevent pregnancy or procedures to prevent or terminate pregnancy covered?

A. No, medications and procedures for birth control are not covered. The following notice is required by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act:

NOTICE TO PLAN PARTICIPANTS
The organization that sponsors your health plan has certified that it qualifies for a temporary enforcement safe harbor with respect to the Federal requirement to cover contraceptive services without cost sharing. During this one-year period, coverage under your health plan will not include coverage of contraceptive services.

Q. Are medications to prevent pregnancy covered when prescribed for treatment of a covered sickness?

A. Yes, your health care provider can document the medical necessity and a medical override for non-contraceptive reasons may allow for insurance coverage. To purchase such medications with your Pharmacy Card, ask providers outside of the GU Student Health Center (SHC) to complete the Medication Override Form and fax it to Gallagher Koster Insurance Agency, 617-479-0860. Note: The SHC will submit the Medication Override for you.​

The Catholic Church doesn't need some arrogant asshole liberal to dictate to it when it should be outraged.

I know you feel you have that authority, but tough shit. You don't.

Stop being an asshole.

Georgetown University spokeswoman said that it offers employees "access" to outside health insurance plans that cover contraception and abortion, but that the school's own insurance plan excludes those services. This way, Georgetown can comply with Virginia and Maryland's state mandates (the health plans are licensed in those states as well as D.C.)

 

[daveman]

I was actually looking for a link to the "Biden says Cathloic bishops support the ACA" claim, as I already stated that both Biden and Ryan are correct about the ACA contraception claim.

Actually, no, Biden is NOT correct. That is undeniable.

Except that it's being denied, and I already posted a link about it. We could go back and forth and continue to posts links, some that say Im right, and some that say you're right.

The ones that say you're right are wrong. Biden screwed up.

However I'm still interested in a link to Joe Biden claiming Catholic bishops support the ACA.

Hyperbole on my part.

 

[daveman]

Classic phoney outrage from the Catholic Church...

...Georgetown University ALREADY provides insurance that covers contraception,

in compliance with a Virginia state mandate, as do many other Catholic run institutions, under various state laws.


Catholic Clergy Raises False Alarms About Obama Birth Control Mandate

Georgetown provides contraception coverage as long as it's to remedy a medical condition and not to prevent pregnancy.

Georgetown University :: Office of Student Affairs :: Student Health Insurance

Q. Are medications to prevent pregnancy or procedures to prevent or terminate pregnancy covered?

A. No, medications and procedures for birth control are not covered. The following notice is required by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act:

NOTICE TO PLAN PARTICIPANTS
The organization that sponsors your health plan has certified that it qualifies for a temporary enforcement safe harbor with respect to the Federal requirement to cover contraceptive services without cost sharing. During this one-year period, coverage under your health plan will not include coverage of contraceptive services.

Q. Are medications to prevent pregnancy covered when prescribed for treatment of a covered sickness?

A. Yes, your health care provider can document the medical necessity and a medical override for non-contraceptive reasons may allow for insurance coverage. To purchase such medications with your Pharmacy Card, ask providers outside of the GU Student Health Center (SHC) to complete the Medication Override Form and fax it to Gallagher Koster Insurance Agency, 617-479-0860. Note: The SHC will submit the Medication Override for you.​

The Catholic Church doesn't need some arrogant asshole liberal to dictate to it when it should be outraged.

I know you feel you have that authority, but tough shit. You don't.

Stop being an asshole.

Sorry. I didn't know you had the exclusive franchise.

Georgetown University spokeswoman said that it offers employees "access" to outside health insurance plans that cover contraception and abortion, but that the school's own insurance plan excludes those services. This way, Georgetown can comply with Virginia and Maryland's state mandates (the health plans are licensed in those states as well as D.C.)

Hey, genius, that's the employee plan. I posted the student plan -- you know, the one Sandra Fluke liked about.

Nevertheless, Georgetown's insurance does not cover contraception and abortion. Your quote proves that.

You know how you like to pretend you're smart?

You're not.

 

[EriktheRed]

Catholic Bishops Correct Joe Biden’s Contraceptive Claims During Debate | Video | TheBlaze.com

With regard to the assault on the Catholic Church, let me make it absolutely clear. No religious institution—Catholic or otherwise, including Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital—none has to either refer contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide,” he said. “That is a fact. That is a fact.”


For all of you Independent Mid-Westerners and New Englanders, let this be a warning that this ticket of Obama/Biden don't have the first clue about any Judeo/Christian value, not one. God was kicked out, boo'd by the entire Democrat Party. This is not the same Democrat Party any longer. It has been hijacked by radical Marxists, Homosexuals.. Remember that when you go to vote..

choose what you wish to believe all you want....but he was not lying about any of those religious institutions having to PAY for birth control....

Insurance companies came to a compromise with the whitehouse aqnd agreed to pay for the cost of birth control coverage if there was any, WITHOUT raising the premiums for the religious social services. (Religious Churches/synagogues/mosques/temples are exempt and have always been exempt and will always be exempt.)

Also, 26 States already have laws in their states that MANDATES birth control coverage from the insurance companies....this was long before "obamacare". Many if not all of these insurance companies in those states, did NOT raise their premiums when they were mandated to have this coverage because they felt there would be no overall cost increase for them....less pregnancies, saved them monies that would be spent, thus covering the cost of birth control and other cost savings by having it avail through their insurance plans.

And as far as your LIE about the Democratic Party ALL booing God....

Let you be judged on judgement day for your lies....and your supposed Christianity and actions, as IN the parable of the sheep and the goats....

AMEN.

Utter bullshit. And Catholics know it is bullshit.

That's why they're all turning against the President in droves like you predicted, right?

 

[California Girl]

choose what you wish to believe all you want....but he was not lying about any of those religious institutions having to PAY for birth control....

Insurance companies came to a compromise with the whitehouse aqnd agreed to pay for the cost of birth control coverage if there was any, WITHOUT raising the premiums for the religious social services. (Religious Churches/synagogues/mosques/temples are exempt and have always been exempt and will always be exempt.)

Also, 26 States already have laws in their states that MANDATES birth control coverage from the insurance companies....this was long before "obamacare". Many if not all of these insurance companies in those states, did NOT raise their premiums when they were mandated to have this coverage because they felt there would be no overall cost increase for them....less pregnancies, saved them monies that would be spent, thus covering the cost of birth control and other cost savings by having it avail through their insurance plans.

And as far as your LIE about the Democratic Party ALL booing God....

Let you be judged on judgement day for your lies....and your supposed Christianity and actions, as IN the parable of the sheep and the goats....

AMEN.

Utter bullshit. And Catholics know it is bullshit.

That's why they're all turning against the President in droves like you predicted, right?

He's not exactly winning over Catholics... the bc, late term/partial birth abortion, gay marriage things... not exactly a big 'yay' from Catholics.

 

[EriktheRed]

Utter bullshit. And Catholics know it is bullshit.

That's why they're all turning against the President in droves like you predicted, right?

He's not exactly winning over Catholics... the bc, late term/partial birth abortion, gay marriage things... not exactly a big 'yay' from Catholics.

That's not the way you were putting things when you first brought this up. What you very arrogantly slammed yours truly for daring to question earlier this year hasn't come to pass.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If the Catholic Church thinks this is a scandal,

why doesn't it just throw some money at it and sweep it under the rug?

 

[daveman]

If the Catholic Church thinks this is a scandal,

why doesn't it just throw some money at it and sweep it under the rug?

Because the government has decided the First Amendment is worthless.

Naturally, you, like that drooling idiot Biden, laugh about it.

 

[Ernie S.]

he claimed this month that his budget plan, which slashes antipoverty programs, was inspired by the moral teachings of his Catholic faith.

The latest criticism comes in a letter released Tuesday and signed by nearly 90 faculty members and priests at Georgetown, the Jesuit university in Washington, in advance of Mr. Ryan’s visit there on Thursday

“Your budget appears to reflect the values of your favorite philosopher, Ayn Rand, rather than the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” says the letter, which the faculty members sent to Mr. Ryan along with a copy of the Vatican’s Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church — “to help deepen your understanding of Catholic social teaching.”

Georgetown Faculty Latest to Chide Ryan - NYTimes.com

They sent him a copy of the Vatican’s Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church. Ryan hates the poor. Most Republicans hate the poor. Many Republicans ARE poor but aren't smart enough to know they are the very people Ryan hates. How do we know he hates poor people? Because of his love of Ayn Rand.

No one hates the poor. We may hate that they ARE poor...
The difference is Conservatives have a different idea of how to fix poverty.
We would like to put them to work, Liberals want to keep them dependent.

 

[EriktheRed]

Utter bullshit. And Catholics know it is bullshit.

That's why they're all turning against the President in droves like you predicted, right?

He's not exactly winning over Catholics... the bc, late term/partial birth abortion, gay marriage things... not exactly a big 'yay' from Catholics.

Poll: Majority Of Catholics Favor Obama, Oppose Abortion As Top Issue | TPM LiveWire