Castro undergoes surgery, hands off power

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    http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/07/31/cuba.castro/index.html

    Apparently people in Miami are going apeshit with celebrations. He'll probably recover, unfortunately.
     
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    Chomping at the bit to start building McDonalds in Cuba eh?
     
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    Yes
     
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    Why we haven't just ended the embargo and flooded Cuba with capitalism is beyond me. Surely it would have ended his regime faster than exploding cigars have!
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Good.. I hope he dies and can finally meet ol' Sparky..
     
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    Now do you know what would be very Ironic? If his brother decides not to hand back power. I mean he just made his brother the cuban dicator. And its not like we are talking about the most honest, good, and decent family in the world. Now that would be interesting to watch.
     
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    Probably not a good thing to hope for. According to cuban papers, His brother is not as "moderate" as Fidel is. So in other words, he's more extreme than Fidel.

    Regardless of what happens, we do need to end the embargo and spread capitalism to those people. They will drop that communist regime so fast it will make their heads spin.
     
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    I don’t think that comunism constitutes the core of the cuban regime.

    What you really have in Cuba is an authocratic regime centered on the “charismatic” persona of Castro.

    I call this regime Castrism.

    Castrism does not rely primarily on brainwashing and is not justified primarily on ideological grounds (socialism).

    Castrism relies, first and foremost, on the “charismatic” father figure provided by Castro.

    Although you also have a much, much bigger personality cult in North Korea, the total indoctrination and brainwashing of the population carried out by the stalinist state allows the replacement of the leaders.

    In North Korea, the state is not “legitimised” by any of its leaders so it can survive their deaths. In Cuba, the state is “legitimised” by Castro.

    In Cuba you have a repressive regime that I call Castrism, but in NK you don’t have Kim-Jongism, you have a full fledged totalitarian state.

    If my theory is right, the scenario presented by Avatar can be immediately discarded.

    By definition, Castrism cannot survive Castro’s death... if my theory is right, the best Raul could hope for is to preside over a transitional government.

    But castrism also means that the instantaneous democratisation of Cuba predicted by insein once the embargo is dropped is a myth.

    Castrism will survive in Cuba as long as Castro is around and I doubt that even the incorporation of Cuba as the 51th american state would change this : )

    But this does not mean I disagree with him...

    The embargo is nothing but a dinosaur of the Cold War, imposed on the american people by the cuban exiled community in Florida.

    Completely counter-productive and probably the biggest obstacle for the democratisation of Cuba after Castro himself : )

    Poor american people... have to put up with a “cucaracha” lobby, as if the jewish one was not bad enough LOL

    The end of the economic sanctions would not bring Castro’s demise but it would smoothen out the transition from Castrism to democracy.
     
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    I'm sure the transition from Castrism towards Raulism will be smooth, seeing as how the alternative would be a bullet in the brain.

    I do wish the embargo would die though. I've responded to Castro myths in other forums, and this is the only crutch his groupies have to stand on. More trade means there are more boats coming and going and it should be easier to smuggle things in (guns) and out (people).
     

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