Carter,Clinton, Obama more of the same!

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    This country spends more on health care than any other nation--$160 billion this year, almost nine percent of our Gross National Product. We have the finest medical facilities and highly skilled, dedicated health professionals. Yet many of our people still lack adequate medical care, and the cost of care is rising so rapidly it jeopardizes our health goals and our other important social objectives.

    I am transmitting to the Congress two major pieces of legislation to improve our health care system: The Hospital Cost Containment Act of 1977 to hold
    Jimmy Carter: Health Care Legislation Message to the Congress.


    The Clinton health plan required each US citizen and permanent resident alien to become enrolled in a qualified health plan and forbade their disenrollment until covered by another plan. It listed minimum coverages and maximum annual out-of-pocket expenses for each plan. It proposed the establishment of corporate "regional alliances" of health providers to be subject to a fee-for-service schedule. People below a certain set income level were to pay nothing. The act listed funding to be sent to the states for the administration of this plan, beginning at $13.5 billion in 1993 and reaching $38.3 billion in 2003
    Clinton health care plan of 1993 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Making sure every American has access to high quality health care is one of the most important challenges of our time. The number of uninsured Americans is growing, premiums are skyrocketing, and more people are being denied coverage every day. A moral imperative by any measure, a better system is also essential to rebuilding our economy -- we want to make health insurance work for people and businesses, not just insurance and drug companies.
    The SolutionReform the health care system:
    We will take steps to reform our system by expanding coverage, improving quality, lowering costs, honoring patient choice and holding insurance companies accountable.

    Promote scientific and technological advancements:
    We are committed to putting responsible science and technological innovation ahead of ideology when it comes to medical research. We believe in the enormous capacity of American ingenuity to find cures for diseases that continue to extinguish too many lives and cause too much suffering every year.

    Improve preventative care:
    In order to keep our people healthy and provide more efficient treatment we need to promote smart preventative care, like cancer screenings and better nutrition, and make critical investments in electronic health records, technology that can reduce errors while ensuring privacy and saving lives.

    Organizing for America | BarackObama.com | Health Care


    I thought it worth seeing every democrats healthcare proposal that has been in office over the past 30 or so years. I frankly am not surprised that the social engineering through healthcare has come up as it's not something new for the democrats. It would be nice to see however, this social engineering cease and someone actually address the real issues that cause healthcare costs to rise rather than attempting to fix the system through congressional editcs.
     
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    Well said. Tip of the hat for such a wise and truthful statement.
     
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    All three ran on the "change" mantra as well....
     
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    What I found really interesting especially on the Clinton proposal were the parallels on the "mandate" issue and the very idea that one can somehow drive down cost through Govt. mandates. It does sound very familier , not only with the healthcare legislation but with the cap and trade bill as well.
     
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    Yes, Clinton had the good fortune of having much more power over fiscal matters than any other President before or since. Gramm-Rudman, line-item veto and a paygo with real teeth. All of those, taken away from him and all future Presidents, by the courts late in Clinton's last term.

    Unfortunate but true.

    I give Clinton credit for obeying the law, and the law was, you have to have a balanced budget.
     
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    here is another article showing the similarities between the reagan and clinton years.
    Whose Economy Was Best?

    Geez I think I have heard Obama say the same thing Clinton did about cleaning out the government.
     
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    Do you read articles before you post them? This one says,
    Which argument are you on?

    This thread is actually about the similarities between the three President's health care plans, not the economy.
     
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    Luissa , don't get me wrong here, this thread is not one to call into question the Clinton years, in fact of all the recent presidents at least Clinton was smart enough to recognize that you pay down the deficit and control spending in order to promote a strong economy. Thats something I give Clinton a whole lot of credit for. As for the healthcare issue, the purpose of this thread was to show that the democrat line on healthcare has not changed much over the last 30 years and to show that this is basically a social engineering project rather than one that would really address the issue of cost controls that would actually bring down the costs of healthcare and make it more affordable for everyone.
     
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    That wasn't one of his core principles. It's one that was forced on him, by law. He might have learned something from that experience however. I give him credit for obeying the law.
     

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