Cardinal Carlo Martini says Church '200 years behind'

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    Cardinal Carlo Martini says Church '200 years behind'



    Italian Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini has described the Roman Catholic Church as being "200 years behind" the times.

    The cardinal died on Friday, aged 85.

    Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera has published his last interview, recorded in August, in which he said: "The Church is tired... our prayer rooms are empty."

    Martini, once tipped as a future pope, urged the Church to recognise its errors and to embark on a radical path of change, beginning with the Pope.

    Thousands of people have been filing past his coffin at Milan's cathedral, where he was archbishop for more than 20 years.

    The cardinal, who had retired from the post in 2002, suffering from Parkinson's Disease, is to be buried on Monday.
    'Old culture'

    Martini, a popular figure with liberal stances on many issues, commanded great respect from both Pope John Paul II and his successor Pope Benedict XVI.


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    "The child sex scandals oblige us to undertake a journey of transformation," Cardinal Martini says, referring to the child sex abuse that has rocked the Catholic Church in the past few years.

    He was not afraid, our correspondent adds, to speak his mind on matters that the Vatican sometimes considered taboo, including the use of condoms to fight Aids and the role of women in the Church.


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    He is correct, of course.
     
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    too bad they chose the Pope they did - but have been making the same mistake for centuries ...
     
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    Somehow the left is trying to turn Cardinal Martini into some sort of a radical liberal saint. Maybe it's a desperate last ditch effort by the left to try to split the Catholic Church regarding the abortion issue. Martini called for a greater responsibility of the Catholic Church in acknowledging the corrupt practice of homosexual pedophile priests. That's a rather conservative outlook. Martini also suggested that the Catholic Church allow condoms in certain instances including the event of one spouse in a marriage having AIDS. Martini also cautioned that the Church should not openly condone the use of condoms. All those issues are conservative.
     
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    And now he is awaiting the resurrection. Which all Christian Churches are still far ahead of the curve on.
     
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    Well, the Church has a longer track record than its detractors.
     
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    The Church is eternal. It is not meant to be in line with fleeting fashions.
     
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    Where is this written? And who decides that?
     
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    More like 500 years.
     
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    The Roman Catholic Church is losing ground in the First World and hoping to gain ground in the third world.

    Personally I doubt they're going to get enough new members to save the RC chuch in the longer run.

    The RC Churches international child molestation sex conspiracy was, I think, the straw that is breaking this camels back.
     

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