Capitalists are warmongers - France now withdrawing from Afg

[Unkotare]

We had NO ABILITY to take the oil.

Ok kid, you wanted to prove you are too ignorant and dim-witted to take seriously? Congratulations, you did it. Come back when you grow up a little.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

We had NO ABILITY to take the oil.

Ok kid, you wanted to prove you are too ignorant and dim-witted to take seriously? Congratulations, you did it. Come back when you grow up a little.

Nah...BaC is most likely a 23-24 year old kid, failed to get a degree in college after finding out that is college is actually hard. He is just now learning that the world is not like Mom&Dad's house....but he wants it to be. As an employer for several decades I know his type. They are spoilt do-nothings that want a job where there is no set schedule, can take a break anytime they want to and Monday's are optional...oh..and their pay is equal to those who have been there for 20 years.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

We had NO ABILITY to take the oil.

Ok kid, you wanted to prove you are too ignorant and dim-witted to take seriously? Congratulations, you did it. Come back when you grow up a little.

:0) Come back?

I never asked for your uber-silly comments in the first place.

Your posts are clownish. You have no recollection of the history, no understanding of the Iraq Oil Law and the macinations behind it, and I doubt that you even know who Chalabi is.

:0)

I have a suggestion .. don't come back.

You're just too damn easy.

:0)

 

[BlackAsCoal]

We had NO ABILITY to take the oil.

Ok kid, you wanted to prove you are too ignorant and dim-witted to take seriously? Congratulations, you did it. Come back when you grow up a little.

Nah...BaC is most likely a 23-24 year old kid, failed to get a degree in college after finding out that is college is actually hard. He is just now learning that the world is not like Mom&Dad's house....but he wants it to be. As an employer for several decades I know his type. They are spoilt do-nothings that want a job where there is no set schedule, can take a break anytime they want to and Monday's are optional...oh..and their pay is equal to those who have been there for 20 years.

FYI for the moron set :0)

BAC is 60 years old, has a degree in Information Technology .. is a DBA who has worked for major corporations .. now has his own business (two) .. and has worked for the US Congress.

Without question BAC has made more money than a group of morons who sit around all day on a website questioning the backgrounds of people they don't know because they are too fucking dumb to keep up.

:0)

 

[bitterlyclingin]

Some things will never change. One of them Euroweenies being Euroweenies, the French being themselves, ie the French.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO725Hbzfls]Neville Chamberlain - Peace in our Time - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Katzndogz]

As heavily muslim as France is, there is no mystery attached to the unwillingness to fight other muslims in Afghanistan.

 

[Newby]

What facts?

The domino effect happened after we got out asses kicked the fuck out of Vietnam????

You're just a guy with a typewriter who couldn't think his way out of a paper bag .. which I just proved.

Post to me when you choose. I'll play with and humiliate you when I choose .. as I just did.

:9)

You can't back up any of your empty-headed propaganda. You really are pretty parthetic.

As for a typewriter, I haven't used a typewriter in the last 25 years, but it is true that I'm grown up enough to remember when they were around. You on the other hand seem to be totally clueless about the reality of the world.

:0) What a fun site.

The Domino Theory was first developed under the presidency of Dwight Eisenhower. It was argued that if the first domino is knocked over then the rest topple in turn. Applying this to South-east Asia Eisenhower argued that if South Vietnam was taken by communists, then the other countries in the region such as Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Burma, Malaysia and Indonesia, would follow.

Eisenhower’s vice-president, Richard Nixon, was a devout follower of this theory. In a speech made in December, 1953, Nixon argued “If Indochina falls, Thailand is put in an almost impossible position. The same is true of Malaya with its rubber and tin. The same is true of Indonesia. If this whole part of South East Asia goes under Communist domination or Communist influence, Japan, who trades and must trade with this area in order to exist must inevitably be oriented towards the Communist regime.”

The Domino Theory was accepted by those who followed Eisenhower: John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon. It was the main justification for sending troops to Vietnam. As one Domino Theory supporter (H. W. Baldwin) said in February, 1965: “Vietnam is a nasty place to fight. But there are no neat and tidy battlefields in the struggle for freedom; there is no 'good' place to die. And it is far better to fight in Vietnam - on China's doorstep - than fight some years hence in Hawaii, on our own frontiers.”

As a result of this theory 58,183 American soldiers died in Vietnam. Vietnamese losses were far greater – more than 1.3 million soldiers and a further 4 million civilians killed or wounded. In fact, because of the use of chemical warfare, people are still dying as a result of this war. This death and destruction cost the American taxpayer $165 billion.

It is now 30 years since American troops were forced to retreat from Vietnam. Was the Domino Theory correct? Did those other countries “fall to the communists”? Are the Americans fighting the communists in Hawaii?

What happened to Vietnam after the Americans left? What is Vietnam like 30 years after becoming a united country ruled by communists?

Well, the communists are still in control. The Vietnamese people seem to be very happy with its government. Despite calling itself communist it has pursued a capitalist economy. It has an annual growth-rate of more than 7%. It had doubled gross domestic product per head since 1995. In the years following the end of the war over 85% lived in poverty. Today that figure is down to 15%.

The main way that Vietnam has done this is by encouraging foreign investment. Much of this money has come from the United States. (Ironically, the main economic reason for fighting the war was the fear that a communist Vietnam would prevent foreign investment.) In the first four months of this year foreign investment tripled to $2.1bn from the same period in 2004. Foreign investors want to use Vietnam as an export base because of its cheap, skilled labour.

The Vietnamese people have welcomed the investment of foreign capital. A recent poll in Vietnam’s Youth Magazine showed that Bill Gates was seven times more respected than any member of the Politburo of the Vietnamese Communist Party.

I wonder what the American public thinks about this situation. Do they believe their sacrifice was worthwhile?

Does anyone still believe in the Domino Theory?

The answer .. ONLY really dumb ass people.

Sounds like you just made a good argument for capitalism, what I highlighted in red, glad you're finally starting to make sense, even if it's only in a paragraph or two that you copied from somewhere else.

 

[Claudette]

Everyone can keep up with you.

Your a self proclaimed socialist who has made loads of money from capitalism it seems.

Guess capitalism can't be that bad then can it??

Of course if your that disenchanted with capitalism you can always give your money away to the more deserving.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Ok kid, you wanted to prove you are too ignorant and dim-witted to take seriously? Congratulations, you did it. Come back when you grow up a little.

Nah...BaC is most likely a 23-24 year old kid, failed to get a degree in college after finding out that is college is actually hard. He is just now learning that the world is not like Mom&Dad's house....but he wants it to be. As an employer for several decades I know his type. They are spoilt do-nothings that want a job where there is no set schedule, can take a break anytime they want to and Monday's are optional...oh..and their pay is equal to those who have been there for 20 years.

FYI for the moron set :0)

BAC is 60 years old, has a degree in Information Technology .. is a DBA who has worked for major corporations .. now has his own business (two) .. and has worked for the US Congress.

Without question BAC has made more money than a group of morons who sit around all day on a website questioning the backgrounds of people they don't know because they are too fucking dumb to keep up.

:0)

I expected you to say nothing else.
Another internets self-made $millionaire.

 

[Newby]

Ok kid, you wanted to prove you are too ignorant and dim-witted to take seriously? Congratulations, you did it. Come back when you grow up a little.

Nah...BaC is most likely a 23-24 year old kid, failed to get a degree in college after finding out that is college is actually hard. He is just now learning that the world is not like Mom&Dad's house....but he wants it to be. As an employer for several decades I know his type. They are spoilt do-nothings that want a job where there is no set schedule, can take a break anytime they want to and Monday's are optional...oh..and their pay is equal to those who have been there for 20 years.

FYI for the moron set :0)

BAC is 60 years old, has a degree in Information Technology .. is a DBA who has worked for major corporations .. now has his own business (two) .. and has worked for the US Congress.

Without question BAC has made more money than a group of morons who sit around all day on a website questioning the backgrounds of people they don't know because they are too fucking dumb to keep up.

:0)

Your age explains quite a bit. And congrats, another black american that 'the man' and racism didn't keep down. Be careful, you're blowing the myth that black americans can't succeed in the U.S. because it's just too racist.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

You can't back up any of your empty-headed propaganda. You really are pretty parthetic.

As for a typewriter, I haven't used a typewriter in the last 25 years, but it is true that I'm grown up enough to remember when they were around. You on the other hand seem to be totally clueless about the reality of the world.

:0) What a fun site.

The Domino Theory was first developed under the presidency of Dwight Eisenhower. It was argued that if the first domino is knocked over then the rest topple in turn. Applying this to South-east Asia Eisenhower argued that if South Vietnam was taken by communists, then the other countries in the region such as Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Burma, Malaysia and Indonesia, would follow.

Eisenhower’s vice-president, Richard Nixon, was a devout follower of this theory. In a speech made in December, 1953, Nixon argued “If Indochina falls, Thailand is put in an almost impossible position. The same is true of Malaya with its rubber and tin. The same is true of Indonesia. If this whole part of South East Asia goes under Communist domination or Communist influence, Japan, who trades and must trade with this area in order to exist must inevitably be oriented towards the Communist regime.”

The Domino Theory was accepted by those who followed Eisenhower: John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon. It was the main justification for sending troops to Vietnam. As one Domino Theory supporter (H. W. Baldwin) said in February, 1965: “Vietnam is a nasty place to fight. But there are no neat and tidy battlefields in the struggle for freedom; there is no 'good' place to die. And it is far better to fight in Vietnam - on China's doorstep - than fight some years hence in Hawaii, on our own frontiers.”

As a result of this theory 58,183 American soldiers died in Vietnam. Vietnamese losses were far greater – more than 1.3 million soldiers and a further 4 million civilians killed or wounded. In fact, because of the use of chemical warfare, people are still dying as a result of this war. This death and destruction cost the American taxpayer $165 billion.

It is now 30 years since American troops were forced to retreat from Vietnam. Was the Domino Theory correct? Did those other countries “fall to the communists”? Are the Americans fighting the communists in Hawaii?

What happened to Vietnam after the Americans left? What is Vietnam like 30 years after becoming a united country ruled by communists?

Well, the communists are still in control. The Vietnamese people seem to be very happy with its government. Despite calling itself communist it has pursued a capitalist economy. It has an annual growth-rate of more than 7%. It had doubled gross domestic product per head since 1995. In the years following the end of the war over 85% lived in poverty. Today that figure is down to 15%.

The main way that Vietnam has done this is by encouraging foreign investment. Much of this money has come from the United States. (Ironically, the main economic reason for fighting the war was the fear that a communist Vietnam would prevent foreign investment.) In the first four months of this year foreign investment tripled to $2.1bn from the same period in 2004. Foreign investors want to use Vietnam as an export base because of its cheap, skilled labour.

The Vietnamese people have welcomed the investment of foreign capital. A recent poll in Vietnam’s Youth Magazine showed that Bill Gates was seven times more respected than any member of the Politburo of the Vietnamese Communist Party.

I wonder what the American public thinks about this situation. Do they believe their sacrifice was worthwhile?

Does anyone still believe in the Domino Theory?

The answer .. ONLY really dumb ass people.

Sounds like you just made a good argument for capitalism, what I highlighted in red, glad you're finally starting to make sense, even if it's only in a paragraph or two that you copied from somewhere else.

Of course I copied it from somewhere else .. erred by not posting the link as I always do.

The Vietnamese use elements of capitalism .. but they are far from being a capitalist society.

There are good arguments for some elements of capitalism. My argument is against unfettered capitalism .. when the plutocracy takes over your government .. an argument I've made many times.

If nothing I say makes sense to you .. that doesn't matter. Perhaps you can find justification for the Vietnam War or can demonstrate the evil of the domino effect.

Perhaps you can even demonstrate how capitalists are not warmongers.

Wonder what stops you.

 

[Newby]

:0) What a fun site.

The Domino Theory was first developed under the presidency of Dwight Eisenhower. It was argued that if the first domino is knocked over then the rest topple in turn. Applying this to South-east Asia Eisenhower argued that if South Vietnam was taken by communists, then the other countries in the region such as Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Burma, Malaysia and Indonesia, would follow.

Eisenhower’s vice-president, Richard Nixon, was a devout follower of this theory. In a speech made in December, 1953, Nixon argued “If Indochina falls, Thailand is put in an almost impossible position. The same is true of Malaya with its rubber and tin. The same is true of Indonesia. If this whole part of South East Asia goes under Communist domination or Communist influence, Japan, who trades and must trade with this area in order to exist must inevitably be oriented towards the Communist regime.”

The Domino Theory was accepted by those who followed Eisenhower: John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon. It was the main justification for sending troops to Vietnam. As one Domino Theory supporter (H. W. Baldwin) said in February, 1965: “Vietnam is a nasty place to fight. But there are no neat and tidy battlefields in the struggle for freedom; there is no 'good' place to die. And it is far better to fight in Vietnam - on China's doorstep - than fight some years hence in Hawaii, on our own frontiers.”

As a result of this theory 58,183 American soldiers died in Vietnam. Vietnamese losses were far greater – more than 1.3 million soldiers and a further 4 million civilians killed or wounded. In fact, because of the use of chemical warfare, people are still dying as a result of this war. This death and destruction cost the American taxpayer $165 billion.

It is now 30 years since American troops were forced to retreat from Vietnam. Was the Domino Theory correct? Did those other countries “fall to the communists”? Are the Americans fighting the communists in Hawaii?

What happened to Vietnam after the Americans left? What is Vietnam like 30 years after becoming a united country ruled by communists?

Well, the communists are still in control. The Vietnamese people seem to be very happy with its government. Despite calling itself communist it has pursued a capitalist economy. It has an annual growth-rate of more than 7%. It had doubled gross domestic product per head since 1995. In the years following the end of the war over 85% lived in poverty. Today that figure is down to 15%.

The main way that Vietnam has done this is by encouraging foreign investment. Much of this money has come from the United States. (Ironically, the main economic reason for fighting the war was the fear that a communist Vietnam would prevent foreign investment.) In the first four months of this year foreign investment tripled to $2.1bn from the same period in 2004. Foreign investors want to use Vietnam as an export base because of its cheap, skilled labour.

The Vietnamese people have welcomed the investment of foreign capital. A recent poll in Vietnam’s Youth Magazine showed that Bill Gates was seven times more respected than any member of the Politburo of the Vietnamese Communist Party.

I wonder what the American public thinks about this situation. Do they believe their sacrifice was worthwhile?

Does anyone still believe in the Domino Theory?

The answer .. ONLY really dumb ass people.

Sounds like you just made a good argument for capitalism, what I highlighted in red, glad you're finally starting to make sense, even if it's only in a paragraph or two that you copied from somewhere else.

Of course I copied it from somewhere else .. erred by not posting the link as I always do.

The Vietnamese use elements of capitalism .. but they are far from being a capitalist society.

There are good arguments for some elements of capitalism. My argument is against unfettered capitalism .. when the plutocracy takes over your government .. an argument I've made many times.

If nothing I say makes sense to you .. that doesn't matter. Perhaps you can find justification for the Vietnam War or can demonstrate the evil of the domino effect.

Perhaps you can even demonstrate how capitalists are not warmongers.

Wonder what stops you.

The Vietnam War is history, you really need to move on. Is your argument really that only capitalists are war mongers? Since you seem to be such a fan of history, one would think you would know better than to come to that conclusion.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Nah...BaC is most likely a 23-24 year old kid, failed to get a degree in college after finding out that is college is actually hard. He is just now learning that the world is not like Mom&Dad's house....but he wants it to be. As an employer for several decades I know his type. They are spoilt do-nothings that want a job where there is no set schedule, can take a break anytime they want to and Monday's are optional...oh..and their pay is equal to those who have been there for 20 years.

FYI for the moron set :0)

BAC is 60 years old, has a degree in Information Technology .. is a DBA who has worked for major corporations .. now has his own business (two) .. and has worked for the US Congress.

Without question BAC has made more money than a group of morons who sit around all day on a website questioning the backgrounds of people they don't know because they are too fucking dumb to keep up.

:0)

Your age explains quite a bit. And congrats, another black american that 'the man' and racism didn't keep down. Be careful, you're blowing the myth that black americans can't succeed in the U.S. because it's just too racist.

You're blowing the myth that black people even claim that.

Is the US racist?

Absolutely.

African-Americans have been in this country since 1619 .. and have only been relatively free for 48 years.

Math is a wonderful thing.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Blacks still arent free from tyranny and oppression in many ways..........

More reparations are needed lol

 

[Katzndogz]

War is not the best way to settle divisive issues. It is the best way of avoiding having divisive issues settled for you.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Sounds like you just made a good argument for capitalism, what I highlighted in red, glad you're finally starting to make sense, even if it's only in a paragraph or two that you copied from somewhere else.

Of course I copied it from somewhere else .. erred by not posting the link as I always do.

The Vietnamese use elements of capitalism .. but they are far from being a capitalist society.

There are good arguments for some elements of capitalism. My argument is against unfettered capitalism .. when the plutocracy takes over your government .. an argument I've made many times.

If nothing I say makes sense to you .. that doesn't matter. Perhaps you can find justification for the Vietnam War or can demonstrate the evil of the domino effect.

Perhaps you can even demonstrate how capitalists are not warmongers.

Wonder what stops you.

The Vietnam War is history, you really need to move on. Is your argument really that only capitalists are war mongers? Since you seem to be such a fan of history, one would think you would know better than to come to that conclusion.

I don't need to do anything but what I want to post. Vietnam is not the only argument I've made .. and for a modern-day illustration of the warmongering of the capitalist West, look no further than Libya. That piracy was so blatant that the rest of the world has reacted .. which includes France and the ousting of its warmonger-in-chief Sarkozy .. and includes the muting of NATO and its inability to gather forces to attack Syria.

Currently, we are droning planet earth looking for ghosts and attacking Pakistan and Africa .. with Iran next on the bullseye.

I challenge you to counter my conclusions. I'm thinking you're an intelligent poster.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Haha...60 years old.
You write like a 19 year old kid. Your mannerisms also shout young man.
If a person still claims to be a socialist at age 60 - then he is either a teacher, a gumnent overpaid bureaucrat or someone still living in the 70's....or a combination of all 3.
Any self made business owner would in no way want socialism in which you could never have that great company you "own"

 

[Big Fitz]

I agree with the OP.

But I disagree with NG's take on King Tut's face. I'm tired of people of history being painted with such rose colored glasses. Did they have Noxema and Skin Toners and shit back then? lol.

History and forensic science are a wonderful thing. Guess what's in your past? :0)

So's Photoshop. And?

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Nah...BaC is most likely a 23-24 year old kid, failed to get a degree in college after finding out that is college is actually hard. He is just now learning that the world is not like Mom&Dad's house....but he wants it to be. As an employer for several decades I know his type. They are spoilt do-nothings that want a job where there is no set schedule, can take a break anytime they want to and Monday's are optional...oh..and their pay is equal to those who have been there for 20 years.

FYI for the moron set :0)

BAC is 60 years old, has a degree in Information Technology .. is a DBA who has worked for major corporations .. now has his own business (two) .. and has worked for the US Congress.

Without question BAC has made more money than a group of morons who sit around all day on a website questioning the backgrounds of people they don't know because they are too fucking dumb to keep up.

:0)

I expected you to say nothing else.
Another internets self-made $millionaire.

I'm sure you sit on this site everyday talking about what other people you don't know don't have or what they have not accomplished.

That's what unaccomplished people do.

:0)

 

[Newby]

FYI for the moron set :0)

BAC is 60 years old, has a degree in Information Technology .. is a DBA who has worked for major corporations .. now has his own business (two) .. and has worked for the US Congress.

Without question BAC has made more money than a group of morons who sit around all day on a website questioning the backgrounds of people they don't know because they are too fucking dumb to keep up.

:0)

Your age explains quite a bit. And congrats, another black american that 'the man' and racism didn't keep down. Be careful, you're blowing the myth that black americans can't succeed in the U.S. because it's just too racist.

You're blowing the myth that black people even claim that.

Is the US racist?

Absolutely.

African-Americans have been in this country since 1619 .. and have only been relatively free for 48 years.

Math is a wonderful thing.

Some black people do still claim it, in spite of a black american president.

So, you're not 'free' yet, yet you have a good education, a successful career, the American dream, own your own business, etc... I'm sure your children and grandchildren have the same, if not better, opportunities than their white counterparts. There are also quite a few racist black folk as well, it does go both ways. And in addition to that it's to many so called 'black leaders' benefit to keep racism alive, isn't it? And that's why they do so.

And again, history is your friend, slavery has been around since the beginning of man on Earth, and skin color for the majority of man's existence didn't have anything to do with who was enslaved. Look at it honestly instead of thru the tunnel of american slavery over the last two centuries.