Capitalist or Labor?

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    Are you a capitalist? Or, are you labor?

    If you are a capitalist you make all your money from interest and or dividends.

    If you produce goods or services for a fee, you are labor.

    We have been fooled into thinking that labor only means those who wear a “blue collar”. There is no third category called management. Management is simply a division of labor. Sales is labor, design is labor, engineering is labor, etc. Even the costs of raw materials are only a reflection of the cost of the labor required to produce them.

    True there are highly skilled divisions of labor like doctors, or lawyers, but they too are labor, they provide a service for a fee.

    What is the point? The point is that all labor can be devalued. This is the aim of the capitalist. That is the only way more profits can be derived from a product without raising the price.

    How can labor be devalued? By over abundance, hence the out-sourcing of jobs to countries with large unemployed populations and / or in the case of the US, importing that unemployed population. Think your job as an engineer is safe because of your education? Think again, plans can be sent electronically to India where engineers with the same level of education as you will do the work for a third of what you charge.

    When one understands this fact it is easy to see that policies of the last thirty years have led to the decline in the middle class which is now clearly evident.

    This is a prime reason that the capitalists are sitting on their huge piles of cash. The more unemployed workers there are the lower the cost of labor will go. There is also the added benefit (to the capitalist) that keeping the unemployment rate high weakens President Obama and the Democrats. If all goes right for the capitalists the Republican party which is wholly owned by the wealthy and the corporations will be back in power in November. Then they will begin hiring people again, at a lower wage of course, and the Republicans can claim it all because of their tax breaks for the rich.

    We must have policies that support labor, We must not be fooled anymore by the RepubliCON agenda of tax give-a-ways to the wealthy. It is time to understand what Abraham Lincoln understood when he said "Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”

    It is time to understand and vote your own interests.
     
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    Why ? If the repugnantcunts get their tax breaks it'll give them more cashola to set up shop in Bangladesh and make cheaper flags for their constituents to fly above their trailers.
     
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    Hmm, no predictable right wing rant about how I hate America?

    Obviously, the right wingers have never understood what a capitalist is.
     
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    small business owners are capitalists.

    Some of the poorest, hardest working people in America are capitalists. Like your paper boy, the guy I see bicycling around town with tools strapped on his bike doing lawn care. Like the street people collecting cans along side the highway.

    Furthermore capitalism demands that you actually HAVE money with which to invest in the means of production. Not that you BORROW money for that purpose.

    When the Federal reserve was founded it virtually guaranteed that almost all true capitalists would be bankers who were gifted with the privilege of creating money from thin air via fractional reserve banking to lend or invest as they choose.

    But overall excellent rant. I agree.
     
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    I am surprised tht post did not get more reaction.

    I can only conclude that there is agreement on this post.
     
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    The division of the workers into Blue collar and White collar has duped the white collar workers into thinking that they had more in common with the owners than the blue collar workers.

    I think that this is changing. Blue & White collar workers are getting alng better than ever, and most working class (extended) families are comprised of a mixture of both.

    You're either an employee or an owner, that's all there is to it.
     
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    Hmm, my post along the same lines was moved to the Romper room. Consider your prestige and seniority at USMB to be impeccable.

    I find it interesting to see Lincoln faced with the same challenges we face today.
     
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    Yes, you could lump the investors & stockholders in with capitalists. A teller is probably a labor.
     
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    I was going to respond to the OP until the end when you turned it into a partisan hack rant
     
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    One problem. If you are labor, you would not have a nice good paying job to produce those goods and services in. With out some Capitalism to create wealth and pay the bills. :)
     
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