Capitalism trashes usable goods openly and daily, DISCUSS

I read your first sentence, "Products are only profitable if they are needed" and laughed at your lack of intelligence on the point, AND THE REASON.

Are you stating that no one would purchase brand new cars for a smaller price? Are you stating no one would purchase food at a smaller price? Are you stating trashing perfectly GOOD goods is acceptable? You seem to be lost and over your head.

Who trashes perfectly GOOD goods? The only instances I've ever heard of doing that were on the orders of the FDR administration. Those numskulls believed the same theories that you've fallen for.

People wouldn't buy things if they didn't want them. What you're trying to tell us is the corporations make a profit on stuff that no one wants.

Idiotic.

Perhaps you could read the OP. Perhaps you could research it. Perhaps you could do work. We all know that won't happen.

I read the OP. I have never seen any evidence of what you claim. You obviously can't respond to anything I post. Why do you even bother participating in this forum?


Without providing bias links I gave you topics to research. It was obvious you didn't want to. It's the reason most Right Wingers were smart enough to back off of this topic early. Watching the small brain try to catch up is fun to watch though.

I don't do homework assignments, moron. The fact that you are trying to assign them means you know you are full of shit.

So you are openly admitting that you do not receive information from sources outside you own. How very cult of you :banana:
 
There must be fifteen types of socialism, Marx's scientific socialism is only one, the USSR tried it and dropped it after a couple of years. Many conservatives today use that scientific socialism, dropped by the USSR, as evidence that socialism leads to communism. I wonder if the Chinese now blame socialism for leading them into capitalism?

Actually, no. There is a very basic definition of Communism, Capitalism and Socialism. There are only variations of Countries that tried them.

Note the MEME that was spreading on social media last year, "I remember when we use to take commies out back and shoot them!". When Communism is simply a Government that owns and runs Industry.

Socialism is when Government owns Industry and the people run it.

Capitalism is when the people own and run Industry.
 
Everyone has seen links to closing grocery stores trashing food in the face of people who need food. We have all seen links to Corporations that spend time to cut clothing before putting it in the trash. Some of us have even seen the unsold NEW CAR GRAVEYARDS.

We have an abundance of goods of all kinds for everyone.

I question why we trash excess.

It's well known they can only keep costs and profits high if the supply is low.

Actually I don't know what you are referring to. Do you have some actual data?

AGAIN..........I GAVE YOU THE TOPICS YOU CAN TYPE INTO A SEARCH ENGINE FOR YOURSELF. Why do I have to do your homework and copy/paste a link?

It shows weakness and exposes followers. Lead yourself, do your own research and stop relying on parties and their media.
 
Are there poor people? Yep!

sure and today there are millions more than ever in history thanks to economic development that allows everyone to sexually reproduce and thanks to liberal, anti-science, ever growing welfare programs the reverse evolution causing the least fit to multiply more than the most fit.

Crazy. Then why does the Catholic church fight against birth control pills in a "science age" that recognizes hormones can sometimes be stronger than the person in 2015? Priests have shown proof of that.:mad:

The science of ignoring human hormones is ignorance with decades of PROOF.
 
Strange how in the more liberal cities grocery stores are not permitted to donate "expired" food to charities for free distribution. Food that commonly is purchased right down to the expiration date and stored by the ultimate consumers for days then eaten with no ill effect. The liberal mantra seems to be you must starve the homeless to ensure they don't eat stale bread.
 
Strange how in the more liberal cities grocery stores are not permitted to donate "expired" food to charities for free distribution. Food that commonly is purchased right down to the expiration date and stored by the ultimate consumers for days then eaten with no ill effect. The liberal mantra seems to be you must starve the homeless to ensure they don't eat stale bread.

Liberal means "More of". More of Government is Liberal and it's not always the Left in fact it's generally the Right.

There are communities that try to grow their own food and live on their own via the sharing of community dinners. Government has been known to show up and shut them down. Because they work for profiteers.

P.S. No link backs your data, I researched it. You seem to be making stuff up and failing even then.
 
Debates like this are like mowing the lawn. A repetitive chore! Trashing perishables is one thing, especially considering the possible liabilities, but thrashing other goods? Oh, I suppose you can find instances of companies thrashing inventory that isn't selling, but that's an example of stupidity not a failure of capitalism. Donating the product and taking the tax deduction, or selling ti at a loss, is what a sensible company would do.

You want utopia? Forget it, it's an imperfect world. Even if we had a truly free market, every problem that exists now would exist then, it would just be ay the lowest levels possible.

I can certainly remember the options for coffee as a kid. Folgers, Maxwell House and various other can brands that were/are essentially swill compared with the brands available today. Same goes for the produce section, and just about everything else. Capitalism made this possible! I'll stick with a market economy thank you very much! Give me the system that produce goods in abundance and improves the quality of life of everyone who participates in it!

Are there poor people? Yep! But we also happen to have the richest poor people in the world and it's no magic trick.

It's actually the other way round: with a free market capitalist system, planned obsolescence and other measures take place because markets are driven by price mechanisms, and with that profit.

Also, much of that is considered wealth is actually credit, i.e., promissory notes drawn against future use of material resources and energy.
 
Are there poor people? Yep!

sure and today there are millions more than ever in history thanks to economic development that allows everyone to sexually reproduce and thanks to liberal, anti-science, ever growing welfare programs the reverse evolution causing the least fit to multiply more than the most fit.

That does take place, except not in the way that most expect.
 
There must be fifteen types of socialism, Marx's scientific socialism is only one, the USSR tried it and dropped it after a couple of years. Many conservatives today use that scientific socialism, dropped by the USSR, as evidence that socialism leads to communism. I wonder if the Chinese now blame socialism for leading them into capitalism?

Actually, no. There is a very basic definition of Communism, Capitalism and Socialism. There are only variations of Countries that tried them.

Note the MEME that was spreading on social media last year, "I remember when we use to take commies out back and shoot them!". When Communism is simply a Government that owns and runs Industry.

Socialism is when Government owns Industry and the people run it.

Capitalism is when the people own and run Industry.

There are actually different types of each, such that there are Communist groups that don't involve government, socialism from which private enterprise profits, and capitalist systems wholly or partly owned by the state.
 
Strange how in the more liberal cities grocery stores are not permitted to donate "expired" food to charities for free distribution. Food that commonly is purchased right down to the expiration date and stored by the ultimate consumers for days then eaten with no ill effect. The liberal mantra seems to be you must starve the homeless to ensure they don't eat stale bread.

Liberal means "More of". More of Government is Liberal and it's not always the Left in fact it's generally the Right.

There are communities that try to grow their own food and live on their own via the sharing of community dinners. Government has been known to show up and shut them down. Because they work for profiteers.

P.S. No link backs your data, I researched it. You seem to be making stuff up and failing even then.

Liberal views can also involve the opposite.
 
There must be fifteen types of socialism, Marx's scientific socialism is only one, the USSR tried it and dropped it after a couple of years. Many conservatives today use that scientific socialism, dropped by the USSR, as evidence that socialism leads to communism. I wonder if the Chinese now blame socialism for leading them into capitalism?


Socialism is socialism is socialism. The only difference between the system that have been tried is how serious the government was about implementing it. If it was very serious, then a lot of people died. If it's only mildly serious, then a lot of people go on unemployment and the economy stagnates.
 
There must be fifteen types of socialism, Marx's scientific socialism is only one, the USSR tried it and dropped it after a couple of years. Many conservatives today use that scientific socialism, dropped by the USSR, as evidence that socialism leads to communism. I wonder if the Chinese now blame socialism for leading them into capitalism?

Actually, no. There is a very basic definition of Communism, Capitalism and Socialism. There are only variations of Countries that tried them.

Note the MEME that was spreading on social media last year, "I remember when we use to take commies out back and shoot them!". When Communism is simply a Government that owns and runs Industry.

Socialism is when Government owns Industry and the people run it.

Capitalism is when the people own and run Industry.

There are actually different types of each, such that there are Communist groups that don't involve government, socialism from which private enterprise profits, and capitalist systems wholly or partly owned by the state.

In reality, there is not such thing as Communism that doesn't involve government. I have no idea what "socialism from which private enterprise profits" is supposed to mean. There shouldn't be any private enterprise under socialism. A so-called "capitalist systems wholly or partly owned by the state" is socialism.

You're just playing word games here.
 
Everyone has seen links to closing grocery stores trashing food in the face of people who need food. We have all seen links to Corporations that spend time to cut clothing before putting it in the trash. Some of us have even seen the unsold NEW CAR GRAVEYARDS.

We have an abundance of goods of all kinds for everyone.

I question why we trash excess.

It's well known they can only keep costs and profits high if the supply is low.

Actually I don't know what you are referring to. Do you have some actual data?

AGAIN..........I GAVE YOU THE TOPICS YOU CAN TYPE INTO A SEARCH ENGINE FOR YOURSELF. Why do I have to do your homework and copy/paste a link?

It shows weakness and exposes followers. Lead yourself, do your own research and stop relying on parties and their media.

I don't read the liberal blogs you do and that isn't where I do my "research." What you did is throw out sweeping, vague accusations. Grocery stores are local. You provided no stats. Why did clothing stores throw away the clothing? I keep a tab open to constantly search people's claims before questioning, but vague, unquantified sweeping claims aren't what I'm interested in researching on my own to see if I can turn your vapor into an actual argument
 
, planned obsolescence and other measures take place.

of course thats 100% stupid and liberal. If one product is designed to obsolesce a competitor can sell one that is designed to last and bankrupt the former. This is Econ 101 which you discover when you get to college.
 
Everyone has seen links to closing grocery stores trashing food in the face of people who need food. We have all seen links to Corporations that spend time to cut clothing before putting it in the trash. Some of us have even seen the unsold NEW CAR GRAVEYARDS.

We have an abundance of goods of all kinds for everyone.

I question why we trash excess.

It's well known they can only keep costs and profits high if the supply is low.

the government must control all human activity.

It's the only way
 
, planned obsolescence and other measures take place.

of course thats 100% stupid and liberal. If one product is designed to obsolesce a competitor can sell one that is designed to last and bankrupt the former. This is Econ 101 which you discover when you get to college.

The term "planned obsolescence" is just another way of saying it isn't designed to last forever. If it was designed to last forever, no one could afford to buy it. Inventing terms that make normal business practice seem like a crime is a favored commie propaganda technique. The people who throw these terms around are commie propagandist with no love for capitalism or the United States. They are the enemies of every productive hard working American.
 

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