Capitalism Guarantees Rising Inequality

I don't really care about other countries.

Just compare the "poor" in the US to the rest of the world and you have to come to the conclusion that our system is better for poor people.

Right...fuck income inequality because our poor have microwaves! We win!

And electricity and running water and food to eat........a hell of a lot more food than what is considered poor in third world, non-capitalist countries.
How do you know how much food the poor in the US have?
Are you speaking from personal experience?
Our system exploits the rest of the world, especially its poor; that explains why the poor in this country have roofs over their heads (sometimes) and running water (usually). What you seem indifferent to is how inequality is rising and not falling in this country.
 
[MENTION=22031]georgephillip[/MENTION]
What can you not get through your thick head?
There is no failure of capitalism. At the same time, there is no real failure in history of socialism either.
The failure stems from corruption. Capitalism and the free market system has completely and totally improved societies across the globe.
What has changed - is not capitalism, but rather the corruption thereof.
And what is there about WDSE's that are corruption-proof??
Capitalism IS corruption.
 
[MENTION=22031]georgephillip[/MENTION]
What can you not get through your thick head?
There is no failure of capitalism. At the same time, there is no real failure in history of socialism either.
The failure stems from corruption. Capitalism and the free market system has completely and totally improved societies across the globe.
What has changed - is not capitalism, but rather the corruption thereof.
And what is there about WDSE's that are corruption-proof??
Capitalism IS corruption.

Ohhhhhhhh...I see.
I didn't know I was talking to a devout idealist...and as with all devout idealist...facts are optional. :lalala:
 
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I'll try again.

Clearly there are people here who are more than willing to point out what they perceive to be the evils of capitalism.

So, and I'm sure you've thought this through, what precisely would you like to see? Let's get specific here, with ideas and/or examples of the following:

  • New regulations you'd like to see on business
  • Specific marginal income tax rates
  • Macro comparisons with other countries
  • Constitutional amendments, if any
  • New culturally-oriented laws, if any
  • Any other specifics of any kind

Let's take full advantage of this forum, and of the anonymity provided by the internet, and really get into the nuts & bolts of what you'd really like to see. You don't like capitalism, great. Take the reins, what, precisely, is your answer for America?

And by the way, it would be great if you could identify potential problems with each idea, so that we can all understand that you've thought it through and recognize red flags that we would need to consider and address upon implementation.

Thanks.

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Well golly batman, you got me. I'm just a poor stupid election worker and not an economist, but even a poor stupid fucking election worker can see that the income inequality in this country is unsustainable. This moron also knows that we've had this kind of inequality before. What did we do then?

No, you can't see it. You are just regurgitating what you've been told by the media and politicians that you like. Learn the difference.

They can't see it. Something that simple is way beyond their comprehension. Its sad.
 
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I'll try again.

Clearly there are people here who are more than willing to point out what they perceive to be the evils of capitalism.

So, and I'm sure you've thought this through, what precisely would you like to see? Let's get specific here, with ideas and/or examples of the following:

  • New regulations you'd like to see on business
  • Specific marginal income tax rates
  • Macro comparisons with other countries
  • Constitutional amendments, if any
  • New culturally-oriented laws, if any
  • Any other specifics of any kind

Let's take full advantage of this forum, and of the anonymity provided by the internet, and really get into the nuts & bolts of what you'd really like to see. You don't like capitalism, great. Take the reins, what, precisely, is your answer for America?

And by the way, it would be great if you could identify potential problems with each idea, so that we can all understand that you've thought it through and recognize red flags that we would need to consider and address upon implementation.

Thanks.

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Why not think outside the box?

"Workers' self-directed enterprises (WSDEs) are a response to capitalism's failure to deliver economic prosperity and socialism's failure to deliver economic democracy.

"Among factors impeding formation of an organized, politically effective new left in the United States are deep frustrations among activists interested in doing that.

"The decline since the 1970s (and since 2008 especially) of capitalism's ability to 'deliver the goods' to most citizens has opened many minds to question, criticize and challenge the capitalist system.

"The remarkable Pew Research Center poll of December 2011 showed large percentages of Americans favorably disposed toward socialism.

"Many more would agree today.

"Yet left activists are increasingly frustrated by their lack of a viable systemic alternative that could attract those disaffected from capitalism."

Economic Prosperity and Economic Democracy: The Worker Co-Op Solution | Professor Richard D. Wolff

Workers Self-Directed Enterprises represent one possible solution to the failures of capitalism and socialism.


Don't you love these lazy, useless fuck'n liberals?

Indeed georgephillip's - why don't you think "outside of the box".

  • First of all, where is "income equality" written, guaranteed, promised, or otherwise inferred?

  • If you don't like the U.S., why don't you defect to Cuba where you will experience "income equality" first hand?

  • The beauty of capitalism is that you control your income. So if you don't like it, get up off of your lazy, useless ass and make more money. Start your own business. Not only will you enjoy wealth, but you'll also provide high paying jobs to your fellow Americans (have you ever done anything for your fellow Americans you selfish piece of shit?). Stop crying that someone else owe's you a job and you start providing the jobs.
 
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I'll try again.

Clearly there are people here who are more than willing to point out what they perceive to be the evils of capitalism.

So, and I'm sure you've thought this through, what precisely would you like to see? Let's get specific here, with ideas and/or examples of the following:

  • New regulations you'd like to see on business
  • Specific marginal income tax rates
  • Macro comparisons with other countries
  • Constitutional amendments, if any
  • New culturally-oriented laws, if any
  • Any other specifics of any kind

Let's take full advantage of this forum, and of the anonymity provided by the internet, and really get into the nuts & bolts of what you'd really like to see. You don't like capitalism, great. Take the reins, what, precisely, is your answer for America?

And by the way, it would be great if you could identify potential problems with each idea, so that we can all understand that you've thought it through and recognize red flags that we would need to consider and address upon implementation.

Thanks.

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Why not think outside the box?

"Workers' self-directed enterprises (WSDEs) are a response to capitalism's failure to deliver economic prosperity and socialism's failure to deliver economic democracy.

"Among factors impeding formation of an organized, politically effective new left in the United States are deep frustrations among activists interested in doing that.

"The decline since the 1970s (and since 2008 especially) of capitalism's ability to 'deliver the goods' to most citizens has opened many minds to question, criticize and challenge the capitalist system.

"The remarkable Pew Research Center poll of December 2011 showed large percentages of Americans favorably disposed toward socialism.

"Many more would agree today.

"Yet left activists are increasingly frustrated by their lack of a viable systemic alternative that could attract those disaffected from capitalism."

Economic Prosperity and Economic Democracy: The Worker Co-Op Solution | Professor Richard D. Wolff

Workers Self-Directed Enterprises represent one possible solution to the failures of capitalism and socialism.


Blaming capitalism for our economic problems, is foolish. America has not operated under a free market capitalist system for many decades. What we have today is regularly called Crony Capitalism, but in reality, it is quasi Fascism.

As the central government gets bigger and more powerful, we will experience ever increasing economic problems. Income inequality is but one. Placing unlimited power into the hands of a small elite consisting of corrupt politicians and government bureaucrats, ALWAYS leads to disaster.

The answer is simple. Very small limited government, rule of law, and free market capitalism. Maximum individual liberty for all.
 
[MENTION=22031]georgephillip[/MENTION]
What can you not get through your thick head?
There is no failure of capitalism. At the same time, there is no real failure in history of socialism either.
The failure stems from corruption. Capitalism and the free market system has completely and totally improved societies across the globe.
What has changed - is not capitalism, but rather the corruption thereof.
And what is there about WDSE's that are corruption-proof??
Capitalism IS corruption.

I've got news for you, you lazy, useless, fuck'n moron - nothing is more corrupt than communism/marxism/socialism....
 
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I'll try again.

Clearly there are people here who are more than willing to point out what they perceive to be the evils of capitalism.

So, and I'm sure you've thought this through, what precisely would you like to see? Let's get specific here, with ideas and/or examples of the following:

  • New regulations you'd like to see on business
  • Specific marginal income tax rates
  • Macro comparisons with other countries
  • Constitutional amendments, if any
  • New culturally-oriented laws, if any
  • Any other specifics of any kind

Let's take full advantage of this forum, and of the anonymity provided by the internet, and really get into the nuts & bolts of what you'd really like to see. You don't like capitalism, great. Take the reins, what, precisely, is your answer for America?

And by the way, it would be great if you could identify potential problems with each idea, so that we can all understand that you've thought it through and recognize red flags that we would need to consider and address upon implementation.

Thanks.

.
Why not think outside the box?

"Workers' self-directed enterprises (WSDEs) are a response to capitalism's failure to deliver economic prosperity and socialism's failure to deliver economic democracy.

"Among factors impeding formation of an organized, politically effective new left in the United States are deep frustrations among activists interested in doing that.

"The decline since the 1970s (and since 2008 especially) of capitalism's ability to 'deliver the goods' to most citizens has opened many minds to question, criticize and challenge the capitalist system.

"The remarkable Pew Research Center poll of December 2011 showed large percentages of Americans favorably disposed toward socialism.

"Many more would agree today.

"Yet left activists are increasingly frustrated by their lack of a viable systemic alternative that could attract those disaffected from capitalism."

Economic Prosperity and Economic Democracy: The Worker Co-Op Solution | Professor Richard D. Wolff

Workers Self-Directed Enterprises represent one possible solution to the failures of capitalism and socialism.


Blaming capitalism for our economic problems, is foolish. America has not operated under a free market capitalist system for many decades. What we have today is regularly called Crony Capitalism, but in reality, it is quasi Fascism.

As the central government gets bigger and more powerful, we will experience ever increasing economic problems. Income inequality is but one. Placing unlimited power into the hands of a small elite consisting of corrupt politicians and government bureaucrats, ALWAYS leads to disaster.

The answer is simple. Very small limited government, rule of law, and free market capitalism. Maximum individual liberty for all.


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[MENTION=22031]georgephillip[/MENTION]
What can you not get through your thick head?
There is no failure of capitalism. At the same time, there is no real failure in history of socialism either.
The failure stems from corruption. Capitalism and the free market system has completely and totally improved societies across the globe.
What has changed - is not capitalism, but rather the corruption thereof.
And what is there about WDSE's that are corruption-proof??
Capitalism IS corruption.

Socialism is corruption.
 
Blaming capitalism for our economic problems, is foolish. America has not operated under a free market capitalist system for many decades. What we have today is regularly called Crony Capitalism, but in reality, it is quasi Fascism.

As the central government gets bigger and more powerful, we will experience ever increasing economic problems. Income inequality is but one. Placing unlimited power into the hands of a small elite consisting of corrupt politicians and government bureaucrats, ALWAYS leads to disaster.

The answer is simple. Very small limited government, rule of law, and free market capitalism. Maximum individual liberty for all.

We have a winner
 
[MENTION=22031]georgephillip[/MENTION]
What can you not get through your thick head?
There is no failure of capitalism. At the same time, there is no real failure in history of socialism either.
The failure stems from corruption. Capitalism and the free market system has completely and totally improved societies across the globe.
What has changed - is not capitalism, but rather the corruption thereof.
And what is there about WDSE's that are corruption-proof??
Capitalism IS corruption.

No, its not. The individual who chooses to break laws, has no accountability, isn't responsible is corrupt....not capitalism. Ive built up and sold three companies. Ive provided jobs, benefits, healthcare, bonuses, vacation, matching 401 etc. No other system could allow for that much prosperity.

You're being completely disingenuous and quite frankly, deceitful.
 
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It is always funny (and telling) that all anti-capitalist books are written by people who have never done anything outside of the theoretical world. This professor or that professor, or some political think-tank etc. make up 99% of socialist and anti-capitalism material.
What is also funny, is the people who fall for their ludicrous idealism is people who also have never accomplished anything.
Capitalism's failures should count for at least as much as its successes, right?

"We live in a world rife with inequality of wealth, income, power and influence. It is the underlying cause of deep-seated social tensions, community divisions and a range of poisons that cause terrible suffering to millions of people.

"The disparity between the wealthy minority and the billions living in suffocating poverty is greater than it has ever been.

"Worldwide it is estimated that the wealthiest 10 per cent owns 85 per cent of global household wealth.

"According to Wikipedia, 'As of May 2005, the three richest people in the world have assets that exceed the combined gross domestic product of the 47 countries with the last GDP', and 'The richest 2 per cent of the world population own more than 51 per cent of the global assets”'.

http://truth-out.org/news/item/21312-spotlight-on-worldwide-inequality

"The disparity between the wealth minority and the billions living in suffocating poverty is greater than it has ever been."

Get it?

Capitalism has created an oligarchy in the US.

Democracy and oligarchy are not compatible.


http://truth-out.org/news/item/21312-spotlight-on-worldwide-inequality
 
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Which programs have been kept at the same level or cut? You seem unable to answer this simple question. I'm not asking what the GOP platform is. The GOP can not and has not been able to implement any program for over 5 years.
You made the claim, defend it or admit you made the whole thing up.

Ah, so you can say "those numbers are bogus" and don't have to back it up, but I have to back up my statement that social safety nets have been cut?

Head Start hit with worst cuts in its history

47M Americans hit by food stamp cuts starting today

The Minimum Wage Is Stuck

Reagan’s Legacy: Homelessness in America

OK
Headstart has not been shown to reduce poverty or increase achievements. The effects last for a few years and then dissipate.
One down.
Food stamps were cut back to what they were before the temporary increase under the stimulus. There has been no overall cut back
The min wage is nonsense. Some very small percentage of workers earn min wage, and most of them do so only for 18 months before earning raises.
Reagan's legacy was the fall of the Soviet Union and reducing inflation, not homelessness.
So four tries, four strikes. Yer outtathere!

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Capitalism has done more good for the poor than any other system combined.
Capitalism has also created more poor people than any other system.

Wrong. Socialism/Communism has brought nothing but death, disease and starvation to millions of people.
Ancient history.
Capitalism is currently bringing death, disease, and starvation to BILLIONS of people:


"The disparity between the wealthy minority and the billions living in suffocating poverty is greater than it has ever been.

"Worldwide it is estimated that the wealthiest 10 per cent owns 85 per cent of global household wealth.

"According to Wikipedia, 'As of May 2005, the three richest people in the world have assets that exceed the combined gross domestic product of the 47 countries with the last GDP', and 'The richest 2 per cent of the world population own more than 51 per cent of the global assets'.

"At the other, more densely populated, less perfumed end of the scale, Global Issues reports that: almost half the world’s people (over 3.5 billion) live on less than 2.50 US dollars a day; and 80 per cent live on less than 10 dollars a day.

"The largest proportion of those living in poverty are in India, rural China and sub-Saharan Africa, where despite the fact that some countries within the last decade or two have seen economic growth, poverty rates have remained unchanged and 'some countries – Angola, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Gabon – have actually seen an increase in the percentage of their population living in extreme poverty'. And there would seem to be no light at the end of the tunnel..."

Spotlight on Worldwide Inequality
 
It is always funny (and telling) that all anti-capitalist books are written by people who have never done anything outside of the theoretical world. This professor or that professor, or some political think-tank etc. make up 99% of socialist and anti-capitalism material.
What is also funny, is the people who fall for their ludicrous idealism is people who also have never accomplished anything.
Capitalism's failures should count for at least as much as its successes, right?

"We live in a world rife with inequality of wealth, income, power and influence. It is the underlying cause of deep-seated social tensions, community divisions and a range of poisons that cause terrible suffering to millions of people.

"The disparity between the wealthy minority and the billions living in suffocating poverty is greater than it has ever been.

"Worldwide it is estimated that the wealthiest 10 per cent owns 85 per cent of global household wealth.

"According to Wikipedia, 'As of May 2005, the three richest people in the world have assets that exceed the combined gross domestic product of the 47 countries with the last GDP', and 'The richest 2 per cent of the world population own more than 51 per cent of the global assets”'.

Spotlight on Worldwide Inequality


Capitalism has created an oligarchy in the US.



http://truth-out.org/news/item/21312-spotlight-on-worldwide-inequality

Capitalism did not create the oligarchy we now suffer under. The opposite of capitalism did...collectivism and cronyism created the disaster.

The culprit is right in front of you, yet you refuse to see it. It is big uncontrolled government run by corrupt power hungry elites. And yet, you think more big government is the answer....what IS the definition of INSANITY?
 

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