Capitalism as the basis for love

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Under capitalism you don't get a penny until you first produce or give something that other people want to buy more than anything else in the world. In short, capitalism is based on and teaches giving.

Liberalism or socialism is based not on giving but rather on receiving an entitlement before you give or contribute anything to society.

Ask yourself which system is mostly likely to produce loving people who think of others before themselves.

 

[occupied]

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[EdwardBaiamonte]

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a perfect example of a liberal pretending to be superior when he cant explain why he is superior. His mind is not occupied thou he pretends to himself it is.

 

[occupied]

Do you actually believe this or are you just trying to screw with people?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Do you actually believe this or are you just trying to screw with people?

Can you say if it is true or false and why?

If not admit to being a liberal and go away.

 

[g5000]

Under capitalism you don't get a penny until you first produce or give something that other people want to buy more than anything else in the world.

So...what's in it for me. That's your basis for love, eh?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Under capitalism you don't get a penny until you first produce or give something that other people want to buy more than anything else in the world.

So...what's in it for me. That's your basis for love, eh?

who said anything about what in it for me??????????????? PLease explain

Capitalism is 100% about whats in it for your customers. First you must please them better than any competitior in the world

 

[occupied]

Do you actually believe this or are you just trying to screw with people?

Can you say if it is true or false and why?

If not admit to being a liberal and go away.

I know you are not deliberately trying to be funny but lordy mercy, your statements are so flawed it is hard to even pick a place to start. For one it is apparent your definitions for the terms you used are non-standard TP speak so what is the use in tearing them to pieces? Capitalism and love have no business being in the same sentence.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Capitalism is 100% about whats in it for your customers. First you must please them better than any competitior in the world

I think you're confusing "love" with prostitution. So you're saying no one is deserving of "love" unless they offer you a good or service - that it's CONDITIONAL? That's the farthest thing away from "love" that I can think of. Capitalism will never promote good will and society... it's based solely on greed. Democracy cannot even exist within unbridled capitalism.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Capitalism and love have no business being in the same sentence.

do you have a reason to say that?? Or is it merely a liberal feeling. Having reasons does not even occur to liberals does it?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I think you're confusing "love" with prostitution.

prostitution has no love it is merely for money. Under capitalism you must love what you do or get buried by a competitor who then does it much better than you.

 

[occupied]

Capitalism and love have no business being in the same sentence.

do you have a reason to say that?? Or is it merely a liberal feeling. Having reasons does not even occur to liberals does it?

Capitalism has no use for any emotion besides greed other than to use them as a marketing tool. Love is not something that can be sold or bought, it can only be given or received. What do you know of love to even make such an assertion?

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Prostitution is exactly what you were describing... that "love" is conditional and should not be freely given and freely received with no strings (kind of like an entitlement). Capitalism has ZERO to do with love... in fact, I'd say it produces the exact opposite in people. Since when did gluttony and greed stop being a mortal sin, even something to aspire to?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So you're saying no one is deserving of "love" unless they offer you a good or service -

no I'm saying that the basis of love is giving not receiving, while acknowledging that a monority are far less capable of giving

that it's CONDITIONAL?

generally very conditional. Would you want to own a business or be in a relationship where it was understood that the other person did not have to contribute. Love is mutual

That's the farthest thing away from "love" that I can think of.

what is??? Mutuality??? How so???

Capitalism will never promote good will and society... it's based solely on greed.

if you love your business and your products you will bury a competitor who is in it for greed. Capitalism encourages you to find your passion, what you love and share it with others.

Democracy cannot even exist within unbridled capitalism.

capitalism is perfectly democratic in that every transaction is voluntary and based on exactly what the participants want. Liberalism is violent in that it uses government force to subvert voluntary relationship between people.

 

[merrill]

Time to do away with all Free Lunch's!

For profit capitalists must move to the Free Market System = 100% on their own( it would be a new dawn)

"Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (And Stick You with the Bill)"

UUA: A Voice of Economic Populism

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Capitalism has no use for any emotion besides greed

if you love skiing for example and you go into the business you will kill a competitor who is in it for greed. Capitalism forces you to find your passion and share it with others. Greed is bankruptcy under capitialism

 

[occupied]

Dude you are just working your way further out on a limb. Love existed before mankind and certainly before money. It is an emotion that has consumed an ocean of ink by people looking to quantify and explain it but to little avail and now here you are thinking you have it all figured out in a couple of cryptic sentences that have far more to do with greed and money than love. I have loved the people in my life with a love free of selfish concerns of money and reciprocity and never regretted it a minute or felt that i did not get my fair share. What a selfish and empty existence you must lead.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Love is not something that can be sold or bought, it can only be given or received.

if you look at the economic anthropology of capitalism you will find that before money people gave gifts to one another. Those who did not reciprocate were shunned. Those who participated created relationship and then marriages.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

OK, this thread is so incredibly short-sighted and WRONG, and you will never get it, so I am not going to waste time arguing with stupid. Capitalism brings out the worst in people and in society EVERY TIME. We, the people, need a government to keep corporations in check - a protection of the average citizens - or they would crush us in their chase for the almighty dollar (this is why $$$ as speech will be the death-knell for this country if it is not reformed - our democracy is OVER). What is really bad is that we now have a bought and paid government colluding with industry in this endeavor and it is DESTROYING this country - do you know what a plutocracy is? A system based solely on the pursuit of greed and lucre does and will destroy a society every time. I'll let you do your own research on these "societies" that have collapsed from toxic capitalism, otherwise, I am done. Capitalism and love do NOT belong in the same sentence, as someone said above.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Dude you are just working your way further out on a limb. Love existed before mankind and certainly before money.

if I disagreed I'll pay you $10,000. Bet??

It is an emotion that has consumed an ocean of ink by people looking to quantify and explain it but to little avail and now here you are thinking you have it all figured out in a couple of cryptic sentences that have far more to do with greed and money than love.

car to explain where I'm wrong????

I have loved the people in my life with a love free of selfish concerns of money and reciprocity and never regretted it a minute or felt that i did not get my fair share.

sure but sadly for you generally love requires mutuality

What a selfish and empty existence you must lead.

does it even occur to you to present a reason to feel that??????