Cap and Trade Tax Bill Online

[MaggieMae]

It's not about right or wrong, it's about government control. Screw the little guy. This cap and trade is about sticking it to the little guy. Do you think that the elitest are going to change their lifestyle because of cap and trade? The ones leading the charge are the biggest offenders of it. Al Gore just plants trees, and reaps millions from his "green companies". The libs really think it will cool down the world....that's just a freekin joke.

I don't think you fully understand what the bill is all about. It isn't just about taming global warming; it's about taming the coal-only solution to alternative energy when there are so many others that are only in the infant stages of development and need to be pursued as viable, cleaner options.

It's really adorable how naive you are, too bad you are allowed a vote. Solar and wind have been studied and used for decades, it's not a solution. Ethanol is not a solution. Government employees are not creative or technologically advanced, government will not solve anything. Obama is proving daily that he too is a naive little boy and is far from a leader, he is only good at buying votes from poor people and guilty white rich trash........ Hollywood is a great example.

Wake up and do some research, fool.
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Solar Power and Photovoltaics
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Hydroelectric Power
Geothermal Power
Biomass, Waste-to-Energy, Waste Methane and Biofuels such as Biodiesel
Ethanol Production Soared, But a Market Glut May Slow Expansion
Microturbines and Distributed Power
Tidal Power
Fuel Cells and Hydrogen Power Research Continues
Governments Encourage Alternative Fuels and Conservation R&D
Electric Cars and Plug-in Hybrids (PHEVs) Will Quickly Gain Popularity
Hybrid Cars Gain Market Share
Clean Diesel Technology Gains Acceptance
Natural Gas Powered Vehicles Off to a Slow Start
Homes and Commercial Buildings Go Green
Fuel Efficiency Becomes a Key Selling Element/Stiff Emissions Standards Adopted in Several States
The Industry Takes a New Look at Nuclear Power
Nanotechnology Sees Applications in Fuel Cells and Solar Power—Micro Fuel Cells to Power Mobile Devices
Polymers Enable New Display Technologies with PLEDs (Polymer Light Emitting Diodes)
Coal Is Abundant/Clean Coal and Coal Gasification Technologies Have Promise
Canada’s Tar Sands Production Reaches 1.4 Million Barrels per Day, But Operating Costs Are High
Oil Shale Sparks Continued Interest
Superconductivity Comes of Age
Alternative Energy Attracts Significant Venture Capital

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Energy Consumption by Source & Sector, U.S.: 2007
Total Electrical Power Generation by Fuel Type, U.S.: 1980-2008
Net Electricity Generation from Conventional Hydropower by Sector & Region, U.S.: 2007-2008
U.S. Historical Hydroelectric Generation Compared to 16-Year Average for 1992-2007
Share of Electricity Generation by Energy Source, U.S.: Projections, 1980-2030
Energy Production by Fossil Fuels & Nuclear Power, U.S.: Selected Years, 1950-2007
Energy Production by Renewable Energy, U.S.: Selected Years, 1950-2007
Renewable Energy Consumption by Source: Selected Years, 1950-2007
Renewable Energy Consumption in the Residential, Commercial & Industrial Sectors: 2001-2007
Renewable Energy Consumption in the Transportation & Electric Power Sectors: 2001-2007
Summary of U.S. Ethanol & MTBE Production: September 2008
The Top 40 Ethanol Plants in the U.S.: 2007
The 10 Largest Nuclear Power Plants in the U.S.: 2008
Shipments of Photovoltaic Cells & Modules by Market Sector, End Use & Type, U.S.: 2005-2006
Shipments of Solar Thermal Collectors, U.S., 1998-2007
U.S. Department of Energy Funding for Scientific Research: 2007-2009
Federal R&D & R&D Plant Funding for Energy, U.S.: Fiscal Years 2007-2009

 

[Dr.House]

We're screwed...

 

[sitarro]

I don't think you fully understand what the bill is all about. It isn't just about taming global warming; it's about taming the coal-only solution to alternative energy when there are so many others that are only in the infant stages of development and need to be pursued as viable, cleaner options.

It's really adorable how naive you are, too bad you are allowed a vote. Solar and wind have been studied and used for decades, it's not a solution. Ethanol is not a solution. Government employees are not creative or technologically advanced, government will not solve anything. Obama is proving daily that he too is a naive little boy and is far from a leader, he is only good at buying votes from poor people and guilty white rich trash........ Hollywood is a great example.

Wake up and do some research, fool.
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Introduction > (View Sample Data)
Solar Power and Photovoltaics
Wind Power
Hydroelectric Power
Geothermal Power
Biomass, Waste-to-Energy, Waste Methane and Biofuels such as Biodiesel
Ethanol Production Soared, But a Market Glut May Slow Expansion
Microturbines and Distributed Power
Tidal Power
Fuel Cells and Hydrogen Power Research Continues
Governments Encourage Alternative Fuels and Conservation R&D
Electric Cars and Plug-in Hybrids (PHEVs) Will Quickly Gain Popularity
Hybrid Cars Gain Market Share
Clean Diesel Technology Gains Acceptance
Natural Gas Powered Vehicles Off to a Slow Start
Homes and Commercial Buildings Go Green
Fuel Efficiency Becomes a Key Selling Element/Stiff Emissions Standards Adopted in Several States
The Industry Takes a New Look at Nuclear Power
Nanotechnology Sees Applications in Fuel Cells and Solar Power—Micro Fuel Cells to Power Mobile Devices
Polymers Enable New Display Technologies with PLEDs (Polymer Light Emitting Diodes)
Coal Is Abundant/Clean Coal and Coal Gasification Technologies Have Promise
Canada’s Tar Sands Production Reaches 1.4 Million Barrels per Day, But Operating Costs Are High
Oil Shale Sparks Continued Interest
Superconductivity Comes of Age
Alternative Energy Attracts Significant Venture Capital

Renewable & Alternative Energy business statistics analyzed

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U.S. Alternative Energy Industry Overview > (View Sample Data)
Global Alternative Energy Industry Overview
Approximate Energy Unit Conversion Factors
Average Heat Content of Selected Biomass Fuels
Biomass Energy Resource Hierarchy
Comparison of Alternative Fuels with Gasoline & Diesel
Energy Consumption by Source & Sector, U.S.: 2007
Total Electrical Power Generation by Fuel Type, U.S.: 1980-2008
Net Electricity Generation from Conventional Hydropower by Sector & Region, U.S.: 2007-2008
U.S. Historical Hydroelectric Generation Compared to 16-Year Average for 1992-2007
Share of Electricity Generation by Energy Source, U.S.: Projections, 1980-2030
Energy Production by Fossil Fuels & Nuclear Power, U.S.: Selected Years, 1950-2007
Energy Production by Renewable Energy, U.S.: Selected Years, 1950-2007
Renewable Energy Consumption by Source: Selected Years, 1950-2007
Renewable Energy Consumption in the Residential, Commercial & Industrial Sectors: 2001-2007
Renewable Energy Consumption in the Transportation & Electric Power Sectors: 2001-2007
Summary of U.S. Ethanol & MTBE Production: September 2008
The Top 40 Ethanol Plants in the U.S.: 2007
The 10 Largest Nuclear Power Plants in the U.S.: 2008
Shipments of Photovoltaic Cells & Modules by Market Sector, End Use & Type, U.S.: 2005-2006
Shipments of Solar Thermal Collectors, U.S., 1998-2007
U.S. Department of Energy Funding for Scientific Research: 2007-2009
Federal R&D & R&D Plant Funding for Energy, U.S.: Fiscal Years 2007-2009

Yea, I'm the fool......... sure. You are being led by a Ivy League trained liar from Africa,
narcissistic, self loathing(white half and upbringing), Muslim, bigoted, bizarre looking, hypocritical, community organizing prick.......... and I'm the one that is supposed to be a fool.

 

[Navy1960]

World's Largest Solar Farm Opens: A Billion Trees Probably Died to Build It

A solar farm has opened in Spain that consists of 120,000 solar panels over 100 hectares (247 acres). It also has a peak capacity of 20 megawatts and it can power up to 20,000 homes—making it the world's largest solar farm to date. The farm is expected to generate an estimated annual income of $28 million and reduce CO2 emissions by about 42,000 tons a year
Gizmodo - World's Largest Solar Farm Opens: A Billion Trees Probably Died to Build It - Solar

The Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station, commonly referred to as Palo Verde Power Plant, is a nuclear power plant located in Wintersburg, Arizona[2], about 45 miles (80 km) west of central Phoenix, and is currently the largest nuclear generation facility in the United States, averaging over 3.2 gigawatts (GW) of electrical power production in 2003[1] to serve approximately 4 million people. Arizona Public Service (APS) owns the largest portion (29.1%) of the station and operates the facility. Other owners include Salt River Project (17.5%), El Paso Electric Co. (15.8%), Southern California Edison (15.8%), PNM Resources (10.2%), Southern California Public Power Authority (5.9%), and the Los Angeles Dept. of Water & Power



While Solar is but one solution, in the energy issue, it is a small solution as is wind and they BOTH have their issues. I wonder how many carbon offsets you have to pay to replant a billion tree's somewhere to bulid a solar farm that size that only supplies power to 20,000 homes. While a small community may benefit from this, this won't even cover the power needs for a single suburb of Phoenix much less any of it's developments. One other thing this crappy trade bill does is punish the states that are dependant on coal for their main source of energy as well as the oil producing states all in the name of this grand global warming marketing scheme.

 

[Navy1960]

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Note to Californians: Get ready for larger class sizes, fewer police patrolling the streets and more public offices shuttered on weekdays.

State officials are now scrambling to close a $21.3 billion fiscal shortfall, a gap that grew by $6 billion overnight after residents voted down five budget propositions Tuesday.

The state must make "severe cuts now," Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Wednesday. He and state legislative leaders will have to hammer out a budget deal before the fiscal year ends on June 30. The gap covers the rest of this fiscal year and the next.
California budget nightmare - May. 20, 2009

This is what happens when you let money interests that are more interested in their agendas than the welfare of it's citizens. We are now set to adopt these same standards nationwide and people are expecting different results? When nations and even states have for years operated under the mistaken impression that Govt. can solve all problems at the expense of it's citizens. If you don't believe that ask the 30% plus unemployed young people in Spain that have lost their jobs as a result of strict environmental cap and trade policies.

 

[Sinatra]

It's not about right or wrong, it's about government control. Screw the little guy. This cap and trade is about sticking it to the little guy. Do you think that the elitest are going to change their lifestyle because of cap and trade? The ones leading the charge are the biggest offenders of it. Al Gore just plants trees, and reaps millions from his "green companies". The libs really think it will cool down the world....that's just a freekin joke.

I don't think you fully understand what the bill is all about. It isn't just about taming global warming; it's about taming the coal-only solution to alternative energy when there are so many others that are only in the infant stages of development and need to be pursued as viable, cleaner options.

It's really adorable how naive you are, too bad you are allowed a vote. Solar and wind have been studied and used for decades, it's not a solution. Ethanol is not a solution. Government employees are not creative or technologically advanced, government will not solve anything. Obama is proving daily that he too is a naive little boy and is far from a leader, he is only good at buying votes from poor people and guilty white rich trash........ Hollywood is a great example.

So TRUE! These sources will be nothing more than supportive role sources - and very limited ones at that!

If we had leaders truly serious about transforming energy, nuclear would be expanded greatly, and domestic oil reserves tapped to their full potential.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'm aware of the fraud going on, but to a lot of people, you say 'evirnomentaly friendly' or 'green technology' and that is all they need to hear and its full speed ahead.

ill go the other way just to spite the basTURDS....

 

[Navy1960]

The American Energy Act
An “All-of-the-Above” Solution for Energy Independence
•
Increase production of American-made energy in an environmentally-sound manner.
•
Promote new, clean and renewable sources of energy such as nuclear, clean-coal-technology, wind and solar energy.
•
Encourage greater efficiency and conservation by extending tax incentives for energy efficiency and rewarding development of greater conservation techniques and new energy sources.
•
Cut red-tape and reduce frivolous litigation.
The American Energy Act is an “all-of-the-above” solution that offers more affordable energy, more well-paying jobs, energy independence, and a cleaner environment


This was the republican plan which was very extensive by the way on energy that was shot down by the democrats in favor of cap and trade. It was shot down for one simple reason, and that is that the lobby groups that support the the party and even people like Nancy Pelosi are so vested in the business of "green energy" it was a must to get this bill passed in order to secure profits for them and their special interests at the expense of this nation and it's citizens.

 

[RodISHI]

The American Energy Act
An “All-of-the-Above” Solution for Energy Independence
•
Increase production of American-made energy in an environmentally-sound manner.
•
Promote new, clean and renewable sources of energy such as nuclear, clean-coal-technology, wind and solar energy.
•
Encourage greater efficiency and conservation by extending tax incentives for energy efficiency and rewarding development of greater conservation techniques and new energy sources.
•
Cut red-tape and reduce frivolous litigation.
The American Energy Act is an “all-of-the-above” solution that offers more affordable energy, more well-paying jobs, energy independence, and a cleaner environment


This was the republican plan which was very extensive by the way on energy that was shot down by the democrats in favor of cap and trade. It was shot down for one simple reason, and that is that the lobby groups that support the the party and even people like Nancy Pelosi are so vested in the business of "green energy" it was a must to get this bill passed in order to secure profits for them and their special interests at the expense of this nation and it's citizens.

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[Navy1960]

The American Energy Act
An “All-of-the-Above” Solution for Energy Independence
•
Increase production of American-made energy in an environmentally-sound manner.
•
Promote new, clean and renewable sources of energy such as nuclear, clean-coal-technology, wind and solar energy.
•
Encourage greater efficiency and conservation by extending tax incentives for energy efficiency and rewarding development of greater conservation techniques and new energy sources.
•
Cut red-tape and reduce frivolous litigation.
The American Energy Act is an “all-of-the-above” solution that offers more affordable energy, more well-paying jobs, energy independence, and a cleaner environment


This was the republican plan which was very extensive by the way on energy that was shot down by the democrats in favor of cap and trade. It was shot down for one simple reason, and that is that the lobby groups that support the the party and even people like Nancy Pelosi are so vested in the business of "green energy" it was a must to get this bill passed in order to secure profits for them and their special interests at the expense of this nation and it's citizens.

E-coal.

With E-Coal Electric Utilities Can Achieve Mandatory Emissions Reductions Today!

ECO Pyro-Torrefaction

Rod this is just one more example of what I have been talking about on many threads and that is technologies exist that are environmentally friendly and able to meet the energy needs of this nation and are domestically produced. It further enforces the idea that this bill is nothing more than a reward for those special interests that supports the likes of Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, etc. much to the expense of this nation.

 

[RodISHI]

Capture a non existent market and trade its non existent value on Wall Street = Cap & Trade. Fund it with taxpayer monies. Oh, and BTW, lets not tell the people what we are doing.

 

[Navy1960]

Capture a non existent market and trade its non existent value on Wall Street = Cap & Trade. Fund it with taxpayer monies. Oh, and BTW, lets not tell the people what we are doing.

Bingo!! Don't you find it interesting that Al Gore owns a carbon trading company and that G.E. who is Barack Obama's largest backer next to George Sorros has already set up a carbon trading energy firm ready to trade in credits. These people are about to sell this nation down the river and I would encourage states to flex their rights under the constitution to limit this power grab by the Federal Govt.

 

[garyd]

Okay first there is nothing environmentally to fix regarding CO2 better than 90% of which is produced through respiration. to begin with. If you take Western europe out of the equation the world is actually cooling and not warming. Why is Europe warming faster than everyone else? Because it is for all practical purposes one gigantic urban heat Island.

And that leads indirectly to an Austrian study whose finding are that we are grossly underestimating the temperature caused by said urban heat Islands and not apprently just in Europe.

An Eastern European physicist who specializes in the study of light waves states categorically that we have already experienced 75% of the warming we can expect from CO2. simply because CO2 doesn't block the entire infrared spectrum but only a small percentage of it.

 

[Soaring]

Simply....the sun causes the earth to be warm. If the sunspots get active, the earth warms up. It's a no-brainer. Man has absolutely nothing to do with the weather of the earth.

 

[Harry Dresden]

She needs to be replaced. 2010 is coming up the people of California need to get rid of her!

excuse me for a second Rod..........you do realize you are expecting the people of San Francisco to vote her out ...right?

 

[Harry Dresden]

It's really adorable how naive you are, too bad you are allowed a vote. Solar and wind have been studied and used for decades, it's not a solution. Ethanol is not a solution. Government employees are not creative or technologically advanced, government will not solve anything. Obama is proving daily that he too is a naive little boy and is far from a leader, he is only good at buying votes from poor people and guilty white rich trash........ Hollywood is a great example.

i agree on some of what you say Sit....but the Military and NASA are responsible for a hell of a lot of technical advances coming out of their own programs.....so your statement about Govt Employees is shot down....

 

[Meister]

It's really adorable how naive you are, too bad you are allowed a vote. Solar and wind have been studied and used for decades, it's not a solution. Ethanol is not a solution. Government employees are not creative or technologically advanced, government will not solve anything. Obama is proving daily that he too is a naive little boy and is far from a leader, he is only good at buying votes from poor people and guilty white rich trash........ Hollywood is a great example.

i agree on some of what you say Sit....but the Military and NASA are responsible for a hell of a lot of technical advances coming out of their own programs.....so your statement about Govt Employees is shot down....

Well....not quite so Harry. They have private sector contractors that bid on jobs, and do the research for them. Like Boeing, Lockheed, JPL, and IBM, and other companies. It's not the brain that are within the government, but the brains in the private sector.

 

[Harry Dresden]

It's really adorable how naive you are, too bad you are allowed a vote. Solar and wind have been studied and used for decades, it's not a solution. Ethanol is not a solution. Government employees are not creative or technologically advanced, government will not solve anything. Obama is proving daily that he too is a naive little boy and is far from a leader, he is only good at buying votes from poor people and guilty white rich trash........ Hollywood is a great example.

i agree on some of what you say Sit....but the Military and NASA are responsible for a hell of a lot of technical advances coming out of their own programs.....so your statement about Govt Employees is shot down....

Well....not quite so Harry. They have private sector contractors that bid on jobs, and do the research for them. Like Boeing, Lockheed, JPL, and IBM, and other companies. It's not the brain that are within the government, but the brains in the private sector.

after a little research .. your right Meister.....sorry Sitaro....yes Govt workers are useless drones....they probably cant even throw a ham sandwich together....

 

[Meister]

i agree on some of what you say Sit....but the Military and NASA are responsible for a hell of a lot of technical advances coming out of their own programs.....so your statement about Govt Employees is shot down....

Well....not quite so Harry. They have private sector contractors that bid on jobs, and do the research for them. Like Boeing, Lockheed, JPL, and IBM, and other companies. It's not the brain that are within the government, but the brains in the private sector.

after a little research .. your right Meister.....sorry Sitaro....yes Govt workers are useless drones....they probably cant even throw a ham sandwich together....

 

[Navy1960]

It's really adorable how naive you are, too bad you are allowed a vote. Solar and wind have been studied and used for decades, it's not a solution. Ethanol is not a solution. Government employees are not creative or technologically advanced, government will not solve anything. Obama is proving daily that he too is a naive little boy and is far from a leader, he is only good at buying votes from poor people and guilty white rich trash........ Hollywood is a great example.

i agree on some of what you say Sit....but the Military and NASA are responsible for a hell of a lot of technical advances coming out of their own programs.....so your statement about Govt Employees is shot down....

Harry, I have debated, cap and trade, healthcare, and other issues, and am constantly waiting for an example of a Govt. Dept. that can be truley seen as better than the private sector in terms of how it benefits our society. Do you know in all this time, your the first person to ever mention the Depts. in Govt. that are very good at this. NASA is an expectionally good investment on the part of the Govt. in terms of technical advancements for society , in medicine, commercial applications, and aeronautics. The military is the same, advances in flght test are passed on to the commercial sector is just a small example of Military contributions to society. Whats interesting though is that the Fed. Govt. tends to underfund NASA consistantly and kill projects withing the test community that would have long range benefits for everyone . At one time when a person got on a commercial flight there was a good chance the person or persons sitting in the left seat up front was ex-military. I would remind everyone of an ex-miltary man's words on energy ...

"I suggest that this is a good time to think soberly about our responsibilities to our descendents - those who will ring out the Fossil Fuel Age. Our greatest responsibility, as parents and as citizens, is to give America's youngsters the best possible education. We need the best teachers and enough of them to prepare our young people for a future immeasurably more complex than the present, and calling for ever larger numbers of competent and highly trained men and women" Hyman George Rickover USN