Can't Be 'For the Troops' and Against the War

[nakedemperor]

So despite having found Sarin gas, as you yourself have admitted.

The serin gas that was found, as Bully pointed out, was left over from Gulf War I. The stockpile could have been considered serin gas a decade ago, but is no longer serin gas. While it may not be safe to drink, as a U.N. weapon inspector put it in "Iraq: Uncovered", you can't consider it serin gas. We didn't go to war because Iraq HAD wmd's years and years and years ago.

 

[jimnyc]

The point is, the whole rationale for invading Iraq rested upon the now thoroughly discredited notion that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction poised to strike at US troops, the US and Europe. When it was found that these weapons did not exist, Dubbyuh and his merry band tried to rewrite history. Bush, et al, are guilty of the same historical revisionism Bush accuses his opponents of.

Bullshit. WMD were NEVER the 'whole rationale'. There were ALWAYS a bunch of reasons. You just want to forget those that don't support your overly used and thoroughly defeated arguments.

And, yet again, you miss the point. Liberating Iraq was not the objective of the Administration...that is until it was found that their original justification for going to war in Iraq was nothing more than a house of cards.

Are you trying to state that liberating Iraq was never an objective until it was realized that large stockpiles of WMD weren't to be found? That's laughable! You can dwell on one argument for invading Iraq but can't seem to comprehend 12 years of failed resolutions that contained a helluva lot more than WMD.

Your arguments are lame. They are easily discredited with facts. They are wrong.

 

[Avatar4321]

The serin gas that was found, as Bully pointed out, was left over from Gulf War I. The stockpile could have been considered serin gas a decade ago, but is no longer serin gas. While it may not be safe to drink, as a U.N. weapon inspector put it in "Iraq: Uncovered", you can't consider it serin gas. We didn't go to war because Iraq HAD wmd's years and years and years ago.

Are you guys just dumb? Let me spell this out:

Sarin gas is a WMD

It has been found in Iraq

Therefore you cant claim that there are 0 WMDS found in Iraq.

Its like you guys and the "unilateral" coalition. an oxymoron of in and of itself.

You guys can argue that the WMDs found in Iraq werent worth worrying about. Thats fine. But to continue this stupid lie that 0 weapons were found is ridiculous.

 

[Gem]

Avatar,

They will also, of course, dismiss the 20,000gallons of chemical weapons that terrorists tried to get into Jordan from Syria in an attempt to blow up the embassay there (estimated death if successful: 70,000). Syria, interestingly enough, has absolutely no way to develop such chemical weapons and has "no clue" where it came from...we did however, see tanker trucks heading from Iraq to Syria before the war...but I'm sure they were just transporting milk and Coca-Cola...don't ya think???

 

[Avatar4321]

Avatar,

They will also, of course, dismiss the 20,000gallons of chemical weapons that terrorists tried to get into Jordan from Syria in an attempt to blow up the embassay there (estimated death if successful: 70,000). Syria, interestingly enough, has absolutely no way to develop such chemical weapons and has "no clue" where it came from...we did however, see tanker trucks heading from Iraq to Syria before the war...but I'm sure they were just transporting milk and Coca-Cola...don't ya think???

yeah of course they dismiss it. But thats not the point.

We've found Sarin Gas in Iraq

Sarin Gas is a WMD.

Doesnt matter if the gas was in limited quanities or even if it wasnt as potent as it could have been. it means that claiming there are 0 WMDS found in Iraq is a lie.

As ive said before they can excuse it as they have and claim that too few WMDs have been found to justify war. There is no problem with that. But claiming 0 have been found just isnt true.

They seem to have a hard time with addition though. They had the same problem when they were claiming we were going unilaterally into Iraq. Even if you counted only the British thats still 1+1 = 2. You cant have a unilateral strick with 2 nations. its not possible. And that isnt counting the other couple dozen or so nations with us in Iraq.

Its not terribly hard to understand this either. But it seems to go right by these guys. Much like this entire thread is. You cant be for the troops and against the war. (although according to Kerry's votes you can be for the war but against the troops). These men and women volunteer for the military. They love freedom. They love defending it and spreading it. When you say the war is going poorly you are critisizing them because they are the ones waging it. When you dishonor those who have given their life for freedom by saying the World would be better off with Saddam still in power, you arent supporting the troops. When you create a comercial where you have a soldier sinking in quicksand and surrendering you sure as heck arent supporting the troops. When you approve of voting against body armor for the troops because no one else wants to tax an already overtaxed people you are not supporting the troops.

Politics is supposed to stop at the Waters edge. too bad there is a political party who cares more about their political power than the very survival of this republic.

 

[Bullypulpit]

Avatar,

They will also, of course, dismiss the 20,000gallons of chemical weapons that terrorists tried to get into Jordan from Syria in an attempt to blow up the embassay there (estimated death if successful: 70,000). Syria, interestingly enough, has absolutely no way to develop such chemical weapons and has "no clue" where it came from...we did however, see tanker trucks heading from Iraq to Syria before the war...but I'm sure they were just transporting milk and Coca-Cola...don't ya think???

Source?

 

[Annie]

Source?

On this incident:
http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins200405030839.asp

On this incident and more:
http://www.milnet.com/Threat-From-Syria.html