Can you provide evidence that Obama's policies are the direct reason for the...

Frank and Dodd did it, even though they were out of power 1994-2006. BRILLIANT, dupes.

This is the Pub Depression, and then the Pub obstruction (since 2/2010) Economy. Pub BS, and dupe idiocy, just gets more and more obvious.

Newt/Santorum 2012!
 
That there's the biggie. When President Obama took office, we were losing 700,000 jobs a month. We are now gaining jobs. How do you spin that as bad?
Over 300K people signed up for first time benefits . How is this a gain:cuckoo:

Even under the best economies, people still get fired and companies still down size. The presence of unemployed people does not mean the economy is doing poorly.

Plus, 300,000 is WAY better than we have had in a while. I'd be very happy with that number!


I'd be happy with 4.7 unemployment.

Can the Big 0 produce that?
 
You cons are so stuck on this fallacy that just because Obama was president during a weakening economy, that all or most of the blame can be placed on him. Now, I am not saying Obama hasn't contributed to the recession, but I have yet to read if he actually did for sure and to what extent.

None of you could answer my question - which requires a legitimate source of information that explains the connection between Obama and the economy.

But I thought it was all "hope and change" dummy??

I blame Obama for being a fucking idiot - I blame Clinton for creating this bad economy with his forced lending bullshit..

Shit, that dumb fuck Obama only had a DEMOCRAT House and a DEMOCRAT Senate for 2 fucking years... All those assholes did was spend, spend and spend in order to payoff their voting base (unions and welfare fucks)...

I'm not a dummy you know... Campaign contributions are public record you know - you can follow the money back to its source.

Campaign Finance - Money, Political Finance, Campaign Contributions

Sunlight Foundation
 
FDRwas reelected TWICE with UE over 7.2%. Pub guilt was obvious then too, dumbazzes.

He was elected THREE TIMES dumbass...

Not only that but back in the 30's the democrats were still lynching "*******."
 
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...increase in unemployment rate during his presidency?

Keep in my mind that Obama said in mid 2009 that he expected the unemployment rate would likely rise to 10% in the next couple of years.

Obama Sees 10% Unemployment Rate, Chides Wall Street Critics - Bloomberg

I don't think it's fair to put all of the blame on Obama simply because he is president.
Obama has created 2.5 million jobs and saved even more. I do agree he could have done more (how much?), but I have yet to be convinced that Obama is the reason why the unemployment rate is as high as it is.

I really am open to answers on this. I want answers that illlustrate how his policies have been detrimental on a national level.

From 2001 to 2008, Republicans and the Chamber of Commerce working with China moved millions of jobs to China and closed tens of thousands of American factories. Democrats had control of congress only two years out of Bush's eight. The first six years is when all the damage was done. The last two years of the Bush administration is when six years of dreadful policies started to really take effect. By the time Obama became president, the country was losing jobs at the rate of 750,000 a month. Obama was sworn in during Jan. By the end of Bush's last budget in October, unemployment peaked at over 10%.
Republicans want to pretend the country fell apart overnight and it's the Democrat's fault. But only some either really stupid, gullible or delusional could possibly believe such nonsense. Bush made sure the Democrats couldn't pass anything that could help the economy during the last two years of his administration. Republicans have damaged this country way beyond anything al Qaeda even dreamed of.


1. When the Democrats took control of Congress, the number of jobs was at the all time record high in the history of the republic.
2. The Dems controlled both houses of Congress for 2 years prior the meltdown. Please list the legislation that they produced to avoid the meltdown.
3, Nancy would not approve a full year budget and the authorization ended in February of 2009. The Big 0 was responsible for his own budget one month into his first term.
4. What bills did the Democrats present during the last two years of the Bush presidency that you you claim Bush blocked?

As always, you are lying and misleading. The Democrat policy of deceive and blame is a little tired, don't you think?

If your guys can't do the job the job, that's okay. Just have them get out of the kitchen and let someone in who isn't afraid to work.



Number of Americans Employed/Month/year

135,379,000/July 2001..........................Right before 9/11
134,055,000/December/2001................Right after 9/11
145,926,000/December/2006................Democrats take control of Congress( It's all downhill from here)
145,596,000/July/2008..........................Right before the Financial Melt Down
143,338,000/December/2008.................Right After the Financial Melt Down
139,206,000/December/2010.................Republicans take majority in the House
140,580,000/November/2011.................Today
 
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That there's the biggie. When President Obama took office, we were losing 700,000 jobs a month. We are now gaining jobs. How do you spin that as bad?
Over 300K people signed up for first time benefits . How is this a gain:cuckoo:

It doesn't take an economic genius to figure out that the economy is losing fewer jobs than we were in 2008 and 2009. We have had months and months of job GAINS.

States cut 49,000 jobs over the past year and localities 210,000, according to an analysis of Labor Department statistics. There are 30,000 fewer federal workers now than a year ago — including 5,300 Postal Service jobs canceled last month.

By contrast, private-sector jobs have increased by 1.6 million over the past 12 months. But the state, local and federal job losses have become a drag on efforts to nudge the nation's unemployment rate down from its painfully high 9.1 percent.


http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america..._host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

Doesn't help the situation, does it?



Reality sucks, doesn't it?

If we hadn't spent a trillion dollars supporting the Government Union employees jobs last before the election, they'd have been out of jobs then. We went into more debt carrying them for a year.

If we hand't done that, we'd an extra trillion in reduced debt and this folks would be a year into starting their new lives.

As it is, we're a trillion on the minus side of the ledger and those folks are still out of work.
 
Over 300K people signed up for first time benefits . How is this a gain:cuckoo:

It doesn't take an economic genius to figure out that the economy is losing fewer jobs than we were in 2008 and 2009. We have had months and months of job GAINS.

States cut 49,000 jobs over the past year and localities 210,000, according to an analysis of Labor Department statistics. There are 30,000 fewer federal workers now than a year ago — including 5,300 Postal Service jobs canceled last month.

By contrast, private-sector jobs have increased by 1.6 million over the past 12 months. But the state, local and federal job losses have become a drag on efforts to nudge the nation's unemployment rate down from its painfully high 9.1 percent.


http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america..._host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

Doesn't help the situation, does it?
But it does take an ignoramus to figure that is really good news when it isnt.

Typically recoveries are robust, with strong job growth. This one isn't.



This isn't a recovery. It's the economy trying to crawl out of the quicksand while the Big 0 and his AG keep kicking it in the face.
 
It is only logical that someone who is looking for a new employee wouldn't want some dope smoking STD infected, whining, complaining American scratching their fleas all over his place of business. Better to move to China or India where they know how to use a toilet.
 
Not only that but back in the 30's the democrats were still lynching "*******."

Y'know, bringing that up a 1001st time doesn't make it any more relevant than the first 1000 times.

Well, maybe I wouldn't have to keep telling leftist that shit if they just acknowledged the truth the first time????

Until they do I will continue to tell them their dirty little secrets..

The notion that the democratic party is a human rights and equality is absolute bullshit...

The notion that republicans were or are a party of racists is absolutely asinine. There is no evidence to support that assertion, and the only evidence I've ever seen presented are examples like David Duke who was - yea thats right - a fucking democrat from the beginning and got pissed and flipped out of spite - not political ideology.

Hell, even to this day the "racists" - at least the white ones are fucking democrats. They're not Tea Party, they're not republicans, they're not libertarians - they're fucking authoritarians er democrats....

The ideology of the KKK, National Socialist or any white power movement doesn't coincide with the republican philosophy or even capitalism or any economic model republicans would concoct...
 
The problem is those gov't slackers turn out to be firemen, teachers, policemen, and the enforcement of medicare and welfare, etc. LOL




Most of the groups mentioned are locality based. Medicare has been scheduled for a 500 billion cut through the Obamacare legislation.

Welfare and every other administrative program should have had a dramatic cut in employment JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DATA BASED ENDEAVOR in the world due to computerization.

You really don't have the first clue, do you.
 
It doesn't take an economic genius to figure out that the economy is losing fewer jobs than we were in 2008 and 2009. We have had months and months of job GAINS.

States cut 49,000 jobs over the past year and localities 210,000, according to an analysis of Labor Department statistics. There are 30,000 fewer federal workers now than a year ago — including 5,300 Postal Service jobs canceled last month.

By contrast, private-sector jobs have increased by 1.6 million over the past 12 months. But the state, local and federal job losses have become a drag on efforts to nudge the nation's unemployment rate down from its painfully high 9.1 percent.


http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america..._host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

Doesn't help the situation, does it?
But it does take an ignoramus to figure that is really good news when it isnt.

Typically recoveries are robust, with strong job growth. This one isn't.



This isn't a recovery. It's the economy trying to crawl out of the quicksand while the Big 0 and his AG keep kicking it in the face.

Well all that stimulus money is going right into the unions pockets...

I suppose it would be difficult - or at least a set back - to a recovery when you're only stimulating 20% (if that) of the population...

It's even worse when you rip the other 80% off to put money in the pockets of the 20%. Not to mention the economic retardation Obamafucks stupidity caused. I mean you cant pay a public sector worker 120K a year to do a job someone in the private sector does for 30k... That breaks the basic principal of capitalism which is supply and demand.
 
I scanned all 110 posts and NOT ONE mention of the loss of $8 trillion!
Not one mention of Net Operating Losses.
Not one mention the IRS allows this $8 trillion to be written off over 30 years.
Not one mention the Loss of $267 billion a year in tax revenue starting 2002.
1) Dot.com bust cost $5 trillion in market loss "The Stock Market Crash
of 2000-2002 caused the loss of $5 trillion in the market value of
companies from March 2000 to October 2002.[13]
Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2) The 9/11 terrorist destruction of the World Trade Center's Twin Towers,
killing almost 700 employees of Cantor-Fitzgerald, accelerated the
stock market drop; the NYSE suspended trading for four sessions.
The stock market lost 16% of its value on 9/11. The stock markets
themselves estimate the real costs to the market in lost value and
profits at close to $2 trillion over time.
Economic terrorism: Bin Laden was major contributor to budget deficit - National economic policy | Examiner.com

3) Worst hurricane SEASONS in history.. actual costs that were written off
Federal/State/Local income, sales, and property taxes over $1 trillion!

So given nearly $8 trillion in losses the IRS allows tax payers to write off against income nearly $267 billion a year starting in 2002!

What affect on businesses do you think the above events had in:
1) capital expenditures
2) tax planning
3) Borrowing? Remember the govt. is the biggest borrower and squeezes everyone out!

AND OBAMA had NOTHING to do with any of those events ANY more the Bush did!

BUT the difference..
1) Bush came in on a recession that started 3/2001 ended 11/01.
Promoted tax cuts to stimulate consumers!
2) Bush DID NOT though
a) discourage as Obama has Oil exploration
b) discourage businesses as Obama has.. blatantly boasted..
“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program.”
Barack Obama on single payer in 2003 | Physicians for a National Health Program
Wants to destroy domestic OIL producing companies!

1) Obama won't allow domestic drilling BUT gave $2 billion to a Brazilian company that his largest donor
Soros had 22% interest in to develop Brazilian Oil drilling and then gallingly SAYS:

"We want to help you [Brazil] with the technology and support to develop these oil reserves safely.
And when you’re ready to start selling, we want to be one of your best customers."

How could ANY President give $2B to a foreign company for oil and say we'll be their BEST customer!!!

2) EPA Rules Force Shell to Abandon Oil Drilling Plans
The decision comes following a ruling by the EPA’s Environmental Appeals Board to withhold critical air permits.
Shell has spent five years and nearly $4 billion dollars on plans to explore for oil in the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas.
The leases alone cost $2.2 billion.

Bush NEVER discouraged businesses as Obama has:
a)Obama says $1 billion will be raised by the $100/ flight:
The fee on corporate jets and other private passenger planes, for example, would raise about $1 billion a year to help finance the cost of air traffic control.

NONE of Bush's efforts discouraged businesses from expanding..
EVERYTHING OBAMA has done is to discourage businesses!
Listen to what business leaders SAY!!!
At issue: The EPA's plan to go far beyond former President Bush's effort to tighten ozone standards way in advance of the planned review in 2013. It could push much of the nation into non-attainment status under the Clean Air Act, forcing major changes to improve air quality. Most business groups opposed the hurried-up regulations. The National Association of Manufacturers has drawn up a scary map that shows only parts of the central North, the top of Maine and a few other sections of the country that will be in compliance of the new ruling.
Environmental groups, however, cheer the changes, claiming it will make the air much more healthy.
Today at the weekly Senate GOP Caucus, Sen. John Barrasso of Wyoming led the opposition. "People in Wyoming are also concerned about jobs, the economy. And this week the Environmental Protection Agency is going to come out with new rules and regulations on ozone, which have been called the most expensive environmental regulations in the history of the United States. They didn't need to do this until 2013, but unilaterally, and I believe dangerously, they're coming out with this," he said.
"And even the Pennsylvania Chamber of Commerce has said this will cost about 330,000 jobs in Pennsylvania. I think that the — that the focus around the country is on jobs and the economy, and this administration ought to take this 9.2 percent unemployment a lot more seriously than they are taking it right now."
[Read why the EPA's budget and power is under attack from Republicans.]
He also handed out a summation of many of business' warnings:
In 2008, the Bush administration tightened ozone standards in the National Ambient Air Quality Standards (NAAQS) from 84 ppb to 75 ppb (parts per billion).
• Although the next ozone standard review isn't due until 2013, the EPA is moving forward with another rule to drastically lower the ozone standards.
• The Business Roundtable has called this new rule the "single most expensive environmental regulation ever imposed on the U.S. economy."
• If communities aren't able to meet these new standards, the EPA will have the ability to intervene and block any new construction, including new highways or factory expansions, if those activities contribute to ozone pollution.
• This will crush local investment, economic expansion and jobs.

I mean why in tough times would ANY President MAKE IT tougher???
 
And you can prove that?

don't fucking need to.. now dew we?

No, YOU don't. You and others on here can keep right on just spouting shit you have no proof of.

Not the same for the candidates you're rooting for to kick Pres. Obama out of the WH, though.



The house is burning down and you're asking for proof that the Big 0 is no lighting the fire.

The issue is no longer who started the fire. The issue is what is being done to put it out.

What is the Big 0 doing?
 
You cons are so stuck on this fallacy that just because Obama was president during a weakening economy, that all or most of the blame can be placed on him. Now, I am not saying Obama hasn't contributed to the recession, but I have yet to read if he actually did for sure and to what extent.

None of you could answer my question - which requires a legitimate source of information that explains the connection between Obama and the economy.


Have you read any of the posts?
 
It is only logical that someone who is looking for a new employee wouldn't want some dope smoking STD infected, whining, complaining American scratching their fleas all over his place of business. Better to move to China or India where they know how to use a toilet.

Nice. Real dupe honesty. LOL Blame the victims. Move to China.

I would apologize IF I were ever wrong...NOT a Republican though.
 

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