Can We Fix Afghanistan?

longknife

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IMHO, a rather naive question. Just how do we plan to “fix” it? Try to turn it into a nation like ours? Not in a million years. They still live in a 7th Century tribal system where the average Afghani knows little beyond their village area. The idea of democracy is totally foreign to them. Their leaders are hereditary and they will never, ever change that. Their only fully recognized government is the loya jirga (grand assembly) made up of life-long tribal elders and leaders and, again, they will never, ever give that up!

So, what supposedly needs “fixing?”

And how is freedom doing in Afghanistan?

Human rights problems in the country, according to the State Department's 2016 report on that issue, "included extrajudicial killings by security forces, ineffective government investigations of abuse and torture by local security forces; poor prison conditions; arbitrary arrest and detention, including of women accused of so-called moral crimes; prolonged pretrial detentions; judicial corruption and ineffectiveness; violations of privacy rights; restrictions on freedom of speech, press, religion, and movement; pervasive governmental corruption; underage and forced marriages; abuse of children, including sexual abuse; trafficking in persons, including forced labor; discrimination against persons with disabilities; discrimination and abuses against ethnic minorities; societal discrimination based on race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, and HIV/AIDS status; and abuse of workers' rights, including child labor."

If you think any Western power can possibly “fix” that you’re willing to buy beachfront property in Arizona.

Full article @ Can the US Fix Afghanistan?
 
Whenever I think about Afghanistan, I think of a scene from The Man Who Would Be King where Connery and Caine are watching the local tribe play polo with a human head.

What few seem to understand about this entire section of the world is that they are terribly inbred. Democracy cannot thrive where Uncle/Niece and first cousin marriages are the norm. Ties are to blood and tradition not principles and ideals.
 
The Afghan's are a proud people who will fight invaders for as long as it takes to drive them out of their country.

They view war and fighting as a national sport.

You are never going to defeat or subdue them. .... :cool:
 
The Afghan's are a proud people who will fight invaders for as long as it takes to drive them out of their country.

They view war and fighting as a national sport.

You are never going to defeat or subdue them. .... :cool:

The problem can be solved by the reintroduction of Hinduism, Buddhism,
Zoroastrianism and Judaism to Afghanistan
 
The USSR in 1979 was close to make Afghanistan modern conventional and well developed country with its own industry but USA decided not to allow that. As a result terrorists, drugs, people's suffer.
The best USA can do in Afghanistan is to leave it.
 
IMHO, a rather naive question. Just how do we plan to “fix” it? Try to turn it into a nation like ours? Not in a million years. They still live in a 7th Century tribal system where the average Afghani knows little beyond their village area. The idea of democracy is totally foreign to them. Their leaders are hereditary and they will never, ever change that. Their only fully recognized government is the loya jirga (grand assembly) made up of life-long tribal elders and leaders and, again, they will never, ever give that up!

So, what supposedly needs “fixing?”

And how is freedom doing in Afghanistan?

Human rights problems in the country, according to the State Department's 2016 report on that issue, "included extrajudicial killings by security forces, ineffective government investigations of abuse and torture by local security forces; poor prison conditions; arbitrary arrest and detention, including of women accused of so-called moral crimes; prolonged pretrial detentions; judicial corruption and ineffectiveness; violations of privacy rights; restrictions on freedom of speech, press, religion, and movement; pervasive governmental corruption; underage and forced marriages; abuse of children, including sexual abuse; trafficking in persons, including forced labor; discrimination against persons with disabilities; discrimination and abuses against ethnic minorities; societal discrimination based on race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, and HIV/AIDS status; and abuse of workers' rights, including child labor."

If you think any Western power can possibly “fix” that you’re willing to buy beachfront property in Arizona.

Full article @ Can the US Fix Afghanistan?

'We' should try but ultimately as Psalm 127 says 'unless the Lord builds the house they labor in vain' true whether house of God, family, city or country
Discussion guide week 6 - Psalm 127
 

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