Can US Manufacturing Survive?

[Douger]

WTF is cheap oil?

11 cents a gallon/

 

[Charles_Main]

Can it, Yes. Will it. Not with the Current Line up running this Country in Charge for much longer I should think.

 

[eagleseven]

Yep. that's why the Navy invested so heavily in converting every major capital ship it could to nuclear power, and every sub. It's so terrible an energy investment comparatively. One fuel up, run at full power for 2-4 years before needing to refuel again. The energy density is just so poor!

With nearly six-thousand sailors and airmen on board and enough firepower to conquer a small nation, our nuclear supercarriers are floating fortress-cities.

 

[uscitizen]

I am all for nuke poower expansion with two requirements.

That the navy runs the reactors. They can be privately owned, but the navy has control over their operation. The navy has a pretty flawless record on nukes unlike the private sector.

And that we have a nuke waste site designated.

 

[Big Fitz]

I am all for nuke poower expansion with two requirements.

That the navy runs the reactors. They can be privately owned, but the navy has control over their operation. The navy has a pretty flawless record on nukes unlike the private sector.

And that we have a nuke waste site designated.

They've been discovering that there is an excellent solution in the Utah or Nevada salt flats. The Salt acts as a near perfect container because it crushes it down and cointains it, and is nowhere near a watershed and pretty impermiable to seepage as compared to Yucca Mountain.

The navy has a good record indeed for operation. But so do civilian contractors. We also don't know of many mistakes the navy makes unless like the Kursk, they become catastrophic. But it's a thought.

 

[Bill Angel]

Renewable energy and nuclear power should be able to replace oil. We also have mass quantities of coal to convert to oil, and seaweed, etc.

One of the unfortunate side effects of the burning of coal is the release of mercury:

According to the Environmental Protection Agency, coal-fired power plants are the largest industrial source of mercury pollution in the country. But to be fair, the bulk of this mercury pollution could be eliminated with the installation of pollution-control devices.

 

[loosecannon]

US Manufacturing used to be 28% of the US economy, and now its about 12% and dropping. Manuacturing creates wealth, the "service economy" is a hoax created by Wall Street to justify moving jobs overseas.

You don't really understand the service economy yet. And that isn't a slam against you, just an observation.

Automation has dramatically reduced the need for labor in fields such as agriculture, resource extraction, manufacturing.

A necessary correction was improvised to address the needs of the many to secure employment that they surely needed and often felt was a birthright.

Hence the service sector blossomed the world over to become 60-80% of every modern economy's workforce.

While this may be a sort of blunder it met an essential demand, to create employment for folks who existed and were not employable in the tradition hard commodity trades.

i noticed 20+ years ago that there was apparently a workforce employed just to invent new expenses that I would begrudgingly but voluntarily subscribe to. The number of monthly bills i received went from two/month to nearly 20/month as new industries were created to sustain a service sector that employed 2/3 of all Americans.

By the end of the century the service sector will employ at least 90% of workers in the advanced economies.

There simply won't be that many people required to fulfill resource based functions and resources will be too scarce to expand further consumption.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

National trade figures are simply an amalgamation of millions of individual trade balances.

True but knowing that does not make the trade imbalance any better.

A trade imbalance can be caused by many different things...in our case, it is the result of our entire population spending more than it can earn.

So....BUY START-UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(...Before a 1%er buys it & moves it to China!!)

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[Big Fitz]

National trade figures are simply an amalgamation of millions of individual trade balances.

True but knowing that does not make the trade imbalance any better.

A trade imbalance can be caused by many different things...in our case, it is the result of our entire population spending more than it can earn.

So....BUY START-UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(...Before a 1%er buys it & moves it to China!!)

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Idiot. Who can afford a manufacturing start up SAVE your loathed 1%er? Ever seen a person on the government dole hire anyonre? I sure haven't.

Things in the real world don't work in the candy land world of your head.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

US Manufacturing used to be 28% of the US economy, and now its about 12% and dropping. Manuacturing creates wealth, the "service economy" is a hoax created by Wall Street to justify moving jobs overseas. I also blame unions in addition to Wall Street for killing industries like the automotive industry. Its a tough problem, but if we're ever going to get the unemploymemnt rate down, the unwashed masses need jobs, and I don't think that picking produce will pay the bills.

Hmmmmm.....It's lookin' like CANADA might be making-that-move!!!!!​

"The car's body will be made of an impact-resistant composite material produced from mats of hemp, a plant from the cannabis family. The material is being supplied by Alberta Innovates-Technology Futures, a provincial Crown corporation that provides technical services and funding to help commercialize new technologies.

AITF is trying to create a low-cost material with the hardness of glass, but that is lighter in weight to make the car more efficient."

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Been THERE!!!!!​

Whatta shame that corporate-America (AND, their inve$tor$) won't allow THEIR engineers to pursue NEW & DIFFERENT products.....rather-than (just) COPYING WHAT THE DAMNED-COMPETITION MAKES!!!!

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[Mr. Shaman]

A trade imbalance can be caused by many different things...in our case, it is the result of our entire population spending more than it can earn.

So....BUY START-UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(...Before a 1%er buys it & moves it to China!!)

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Idiot. Who can afford a manufacturing start up SAVE your loathed 1%er?

Yeah....they're really doin' a helluva-job....sittin' on their fat asses/wallets....waitin' to see what happens in '10!!

Whatta work-ethic!

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[Bill Angel]

I guess it's something of a symbolic issue, but the following is a list of the manufacturers that submitted competitive bids in 2010 to produce cars for Washington DC's Subway system

They were: Italy-based AnsaldoBreda, France-based Alstom, Japan-based Kawasaki, Kinki Sharyo and Nippon Sharyo, Canada-based Bombadier and Spain-based CAF.

The company that got the contract was Kawasaki, a contract worth 800 million dollars.
Interestingly enough, Kawasaki Rail Car, Inc., will manufacture the new rail cars in Lincoln, NE.
The first four pilot cars of the 364-car contract would be built in Japan, and the rest in Lincoln.


So our nation's capital will have its subway rail car needs met by cars produced by a foreign manufacturer (sigh)