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The US is always united but we are still humans ad have our own thoughts and views and opinions and we voice those. Doesn't make it right or wrong and doesn't mean we are not united. Have you even looked at our history say after pearl? Or after 9/11? We have and will always be united.
I agree with his statementAmericans for the most part are apolitical.
Its actually a very small percentage of the population at war with each other. 24/7 cable news, talk radio, and message boards make it seem a lot worse than it really is.
Really?
Is that true?
I don't know, but I am interested if others agree. It always SEEMS so political to me.
The answer is simple. We have about 50% of the population that like the America that our founders gave us. We have about 20% of the population that wants badly to turn America into Europe. Then, we have about 30% of the population that doesn't really know the difference or even cares to learn the difference. Their main concern is their selves.
Since the future of the country is at stake, the voices get loud and the anger erupts.
I agree there are very different visions of America on offer from different voices.
I totally get that.
But I think both sides exaggerate what the other side actually want.
For instance, I don't hear many Democrats calling for things which would be REALLY European, e.g.
- free abortion on demand
- free and universal healthcare
- free and universal education, including university
Some would support this, but I don't see these as Democrat policies.
The US is always united but we are still humans ad have our own thoughts and views and opinions and we voice those. Doesn't make it right or wrong and doesn't mean we are not united. Have you even looked at our history say after pearl? Or after 9/11? We have and will always be united.
I do agree about Pearl Harbour and 9/11.
Maybe it is just the nature of the internet, but the viciousness and open hatred many posters here express for other political ideologies is...um...unusual.
I have also talked to Americans in America who say things about, say, liberals that you wouldn't often here people say in other countries.
All I am saying is that political debate in the US seems more vicious and more divisive than in other societies.
No - so long as foreign asshole like you keep getting in our business and stirring the pot by pushing your radical European Socialism/Marxism/Communism on America.
Oh, absolutely - I am sitting here right now wearing my Soviet military uniform and singing 'Keep The Ref Flag Flying'.
Absolutely wonderful post, Rottie, I really snorted coffee through my nose laughing when I read this.
btw. Did you know my country defeated the USSR on the battlefield. Did yours?
The US is always united but we are still humans ad have our own thoughts and views and opinions and we voice those. Doesn't make it right or wrong and doesn't mean we are not united. Have you even looked at our history say after pearl? Or after 9/11? We have and will always be united.
I do agree about Pearl Harbour and 9/11.
Maybe it is just the nature of the internet, but the viciousness and open hatred many posters here express for other political ideologies is...um...unusual.
I have also talked to Americans in America who say things about, say, liberals that you wouldn't often here people say in other countries.
All I am saying is that political debate in the US seems more vicious and more divisive than in other societies.
That is the nature of the internet none of these folks would ever say half the shit they say to you're face that they have said here.
The answer is simple. We have about 50% of the population that like the America that our founders gave us. We have about 20% of the population that wants badly to turn America into Europe. Then, we have about 30% of the population that doesn't really know the difference or even cares to learn the difference. Their main concern is their selves.
Since the future of the country is at stake, the voices get loud and the anger erupts.
I agree there are very different visions of America on offer from different voices.
I totally get that.
But I think both sides exaggerate what the other side actually want.
For instance, I don't hear many Democrats calling for things which would be REALLY European, e.g.
- free abortion on demand
- free and universal healthcare
- free and universal education, including university
Some would support this, but I don't see these as Democrat policies.
I do agree about Pearl Harbour and 9/11.
Maybe it is just the nature of the internet, but the viciousness and open hatred many posters here express for other political ideologies is...um...unusual.
I have also talked to Americans in America who say things about, say, liberals that you wouldn't often here people say in other countries.
All I am saying is that political debate in the US seems more vicious and more divisive than in other societies.
That is the nature of the internet none of these folks would ever say half the shit they say to you're face that they have said here.
No doubt! There is no way that an asshole like you would be such a passive/aggressive racist to minorities if you were face to face with them...
You're credibility is dropping.
No - so long as foreign asshole like you keep getting in our business and stirring the pot by pushing your radical European Socialism/Marxism/Communism on America.
Oh, absolutely - I am sitting here right now wearing my Soviet military uniform and singing 'Keep The Ref Flag Flying'.
Absolutely wonderful post, Rottie, I really snorted coffee through my nose laughing when I read this.
btw. Did you know my country defeated the USSR on the battlefield. Did yours?
We didn't have to... we just needed a real leader (Reagan) and all we had to do was flex our muscles. Without a shot being fired or a punch being thrown, the U.S.S.R. promptly coward and collapsed. The fact that they were even willing to meet your country on the "battlefield" just shows how much they did NOT fear you.
The political debate in the US seems to bitter these days....can the US ever be a united country again?
By united I don't mean that everyone would agree on everrything, but that people would accept the result of a democractic election, and see themselves as Americans first and members of a party second.
The reason this interests me is because in Europe I don't sense the same kind of division very often. It does happen - in Britain under Thatcher, perhaps France under Sakorzy or the end of the Toby Blair era in the UK - but by and large people consider themselves Finns or French or British first, and are proud of that. What party people voted for just isn't much of an issue in discussions around the water cooler.
The kind of loathing for liberalism and conservatism we see here seems almost uniquely American - why is that?
The answer is simple. We have about 50% of the population that like the America that our founders gave us. We have about 20% of the population that wants badly to turn America into Europe. Then, we have about 30% of the population that doesn't really know the difference or even cares to learn the difference. Their main concern is their selves.
Since the future of the country is at stake, the voices get loud and the anger erupts.
I agree there are very different visions of America on offer from different voices.
I totally get that.
But I think both sides exaggerate what the other side actually want.
For instance, I don't hear many Democrats calling for things which would be REALLY European, e.g.
- free abortion on demand
- free and universal healthcare
- free and universal education, including university
Some would support this, but I don't see these as Democrat policies.
These are definitely democrat policies, who else do you think advocastes for them? Look no further than Nancy Pelosi and her far left group if you want to know who supports these goals. Pretty sure Obama wants this too.
The political debate in the US seems to bitter these days....can the US ever be a united country again?
By united I don't mean that everyone would agree on everrything, but that people would accept the result of a democractic election, and see themselves as Americans first and members of a party second.
The reason this interests me is because in Europe I don't sense the same kind of division very often. It does happen - in Britain under Thatcher, perhaps France under Sakorzy or the end of the Toby Blair era in the UK - but by and large people consider themselves Finns or French or British first, and are proud of that. What party people voted for just isn't much of an issue in discussions around the water cooler.
The kind of loathing for liberalism and conservatism we see here seems almost uniquely American - why is that?
No - so long as foreign asshole like you keep getting in our business and stirring the pot by pushing your radical European Socialism/Marxism/Communism on America.
We're not caving do your bullshit - ever. We are the bad-ass on the block called Earth. It's why we took out Hitler when the French surrendered right away. It's why we took out Saddam Hussein. It's why we took out Osama Bin Laden. And it is why we will take out the progressive Socialists/Marxists/Communists.
). If you could read, you would see above that I never said anything other than AMERICA (unless of course, you're implying that Obama is not a U.S. citizen???)
The fact that they were even willing to meet your country on the "battlefield" just shows how much they did NOT fear you.
Um...have you heard of WWII?
No - so long as foreign asshole like you keep getting in our business and stirring the pot by pushing your radical European Socialism/Marxism/Communism on America.
We're not caving do your bullshit - ever. We are the bad-ass on the block called Earth. It's why we took out Hitler when the French surrendered right away. It's why we took out Saddam Hussein. It's why we took out Osama Bin Laden. And it is why we will take out the progressive Socialists/Marxists/Communists.
Really? Barack Obama left the White House (for a destination other than the uber wealthy Martha Vinyards), breached Bin Laden's home, and then put a bullet through his eye?!?
Who knew that Barack Obama was a "door kicker"?!?!? News flash stupid - the US Navy Seals got him. And that was made possible through the policies and intelligence arranged under GWB. The only thing Obama did was step in front of a mic, read from a TelePrompTer, and try to take credit for it all (the only 3 things he ever does
No - so long as foreign asshole like you keep getting in our business and stirring the pot by pushing your radical European Socialism/Marxism/Communism on America.
We're not caving do your bullshit - ever. We are the bad-ass on the block called Earth. It's why we took out Hitler when the French surrendered right away. It's why we took out Saddam Hussein. It's why we took out Osama Bin Laden. And it is why we will take out the progressive Socialists/Marxists/Communists.
Really? Barack Obama left the White House (for a destination other than the uber wealthy Martha Vinyards), breached Bin Laden's home, and then put a bullet through his eye?!?
Who knew that Barack Obama was a "door kicker"?!?!? News flash stupid - the US Navy Seals got him. And that was made possible through the policies and intelligence arranged under GWB. The only thing Obama did was step in front of a mic, read from a TelePrompTer, and try to take credit for it all (the only 3 things he ever does
Thanks for proving my point You are too easy go back to watching fox. 
The answer is simple. We have about 50% of the population that like the America that our founders gave us.
No - so long as foreign asshole like you keep getting in our business and stirring the pot by pushing your radical European Socialism/Marxism/Communism on America.
