Can the right generate enough fear over Egypt to re-energize their base?

[Avatar4321]

how can any patriotic American be against democracy?

Who is against democracy?

Anyone who thinks this new found freedom is bad for the US

What freedom?

 

[VaYank5150]

how can any patriotic American be against democracy?

Who is against democracy?

Why would anyone be for it? Mob rule is slavery. The better question is, why do Americans think we live in a democracy? After all, the word democracy doesn't even appear in the Constitution. Stupid libs and their retarded teachers for.

I had no idea Dubya was a "stupid Lib"....

Freedom Agenda

 

[Mad Scientist]

how can any patriotic American be against democracy?

Pretty easy when you realize why we are a Republic

And a republic is a type of democracy

Wrong. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.

We are a Representative Republic.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Thye are trying, but not sure it will work out for them.

How so?

I know there's talk that if we lose them as an ally we may lose use of the Suez. And I heard talk that the Muslim Brotherhood is trying to move in.

I don't know how any of this would motivate the the GOP base.

I do not believe we use the Suez much. that would appear to be more of a concern for Europe.

Suez: Choke Hold On World Shipping

The canal is reported to handle around 8% of the world’s GDP. While a closure would slow down the flow of goods, it would not cause a drop in global GDP that large. The US is reported to have about 3% of its GDP transship the canal.



Read more: Suez: Choke Hold On World Shipping

Seems fairly significant to me.

 

[Truthmatters]

Pretty easy when you realize why we are a Republic

And a republic is a type of democracy

Wrong. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.

We are a Representative Republic.

What you are thinking of is Direct or pure democracy.

Under the definition of the words a republic IS a type of democracy.

You dont get to redefine words for your political purposes

 

[Truthmatters]

Democracy - New World Encyclopedia


Forms of democracy
There are many variations on the forms of government that put ultimate rule in the citizens of a state:


Representative democracy
Representative democracy involves the selection of the legislature and executive by a popular election. Representatives are to make make decisions on behalf of those they represent. They retain the freedom to exercise their own judgment. Their constituents can communicate with them on important issues and choose a new representative in the next election if they are dissatisfied.

There are a number of systems of varying degrees of complexity for choosing representatives. They may be elected by a particular district (or constituency), or represent the electorate as a whole as in many proportional systems.


Liberal democracy
Classical liberal democracy is normally a representative democracy along with the protection of minorities, the rule of law, a separation of powers, and protection of liberties (thus the name "liberal") of speech, assembly, religion, and property.

Since the 1960s the term "liberal" has been used, often pejoratively, towards those legislatures that are liberal with state money and redistribute it to create a welfare state. However, this would be an illiberal democracy in classical terms, because it does not protect the property its citizens acquire.


Direct democracy
Direct democracy is a political system in which the citizens vote on major policy decisions and laws. Issues are resolved by popular vote, or referenda. Many people think direct democracy is the purest form of democracy. Direct democracies function better in small communities or in areas where people have a high degree of independence and self-sufficiency. Switzerland is a direct democracy where new laws often need a referendum in order to be passed. As it is a very stable and prosperous country, few people see any urgent need for change and so few new laws are passed. The system is also very decentralized, with few policies decided on a national level. This means that the French, Italian, and Romance language speaking minorities can order their affairs the way they choose and the large Swiss-German-speaking majority cannot over rule the local level, even if it wanted to.


Socialist democracy
Socialism, where the state economy is shaped by the government, has some forms that are based on democracy. Social democracy, democratic socialism, and the dictatorship of the proletariat are some examples of names applied to the ideal of a socialist democracy. Many democratic socialists and social democrats believe in a form of welfare state and workplace democracy produced by legislation by a representative democracy.

Marxist-Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists, and other "orthodox Marxists" generally promote democratic centralism, but they have never formed actual societies which were not ruled by elites who had acquired government power. Libertarian socialists generally believe in direct democracy and Libertarian Marxists often believe in a consociational state that combines consensus democracy with representative democracy. Such consensus democracy has existed in local-level community groups in rural communist China.


Anarchist democracy
The only form of democracy considered acceptable to many anarchists is direct democracy, which historically discriminates against minorities. However, some anarchists oppose direct democracy. Pierre-Joseph Proudhon argued that the only acceptable form of direct democracy is one in which it is recognized that majority decisions are not binding on the minority, even when unanimous.[18] However, anarcho-communist Murray Bookchin criticized individualist anarchists for opposing democracy,[19] and says "majority rule" is consistent with anarchism.


Sortition
Sortition (or allotment) has formed the basis of systems randomly selecting officers from the population. A much noted classical example would be the ancient Athenian democracy. Drawing by lot from a pool of qualified people elected by the citizens would be a democratic variation on sortition. Such a process would reduce the ability of wealthy contributors or election rigging to guarantee an outcome, and the problems associated with incumbent advantages would be eliminated.


Tribal and consensus democracy
Certain ethnic tribes organized themselves using different forms of participatory democracy or consensus democracy.[20] However, these are generally face-to-face communities, and it is difficult to develop consensus in a large impersonal modern bureaucratic state. Consensus democracy and deliberative democracy seek consensus among the people.[21]

 

[Two Thumbs]

how can any patriotic American be against democracy?

Who is against democracy?

Anyone who thinks this new found freedom is bad for the US

What freedom?

Mob rule is not freedom. Did you miss the videos of them beating on each other over thier differences? Did you miss the body count of them killing each other?

Mob rule isn't freedom, or democracy.

Will you cheer it they "vote in" a theocracy and force, I mean, vote that women wear burquas?

 

[Dr.Drock]

how can any patriotic American be against democracy?

I'm certain you supported the cries of the Iraqi people when they too wanted their freedom from a tyrannical monster, right? After all you're here supporting it in this very thread.

I wasn't taxed in order to pay for Egyptian democracy and my fellow americans weren't put in the ground over it.

Good grief.

 

[uscitizen]

how can any patriotic American be against democracy?

Who is against democracy?

No one. But truthdon'tmatter can't cope with the very real issues regarding Egypt, so, like all lefties, they need to pretend bad things don't happen. Whatever you do... do NOT look at Iran for an example of what can happen when you long for 'democracy'.

Nor Palestine, not Iraq, Nor Afganistan....

 

[Dr.Drock]

Actually I guess I was taxed a little, US taxpayer dollars were used to buy off Mubarak and make him a puppet of ours and I'm sure that didn't help his cause in his people hating him.

 

[uscitizen]

Who is against democracy?

Anyone who thinks this new found freedom is bad for the US

What freedom?

Mob rule is not freedom. Did you miss the videos of them beating on each other over thier differences? Did you miss the body count of them killing each other?

Mob rule isn't freedom, or democracy.

Will you cheer it they "vote in" a theocracy and force, I mean, vote that women wear burquas?

or that women cover their breasts?

 

[Truthmatters]

Who is against democracy?

Anyone who thinks this new found freedom is bad for the US

What freedom?

Mob rule is not freedom. Did you miss the videos of them beating on each other over thier differences? Did you miss the body count of them killing each other?

Mob rule isn't freedom, or democracy.

Will you cheer it they "vote in" a theocracy and force, I mean, vote that women wear burquas?

You really hate arabs dont you?

 

[Samson]

Anyone who thinks this new found freedom is bad for the US

What freedom?

Mob rule is not freedom. Did you miss the videos of them beating on each other over thier differences? Did you miss the body count of them killing each other?

Mob rule isn't freedom, or democracy.

Will you cheer it they "vote in" a theocracy and force, I mean, vote that women wear burquas?

You really hate arabs dont you?

I really don't even hate stupidity.

I find you amusing.

 

[Samson]

Anyone who thinks this new found freedom is bad for the US

What freedom?

Mob rule is not freedom. Did you miss the videos of them beating on each other over thier differences? Did you miss the body count of them killing each other?

Mob rule isn't freedom, or democracy.

Will you cheer it they "vote in" a theocracy and force, I mean, vote that women wear burquas?

or that women cover their breasts?

You Had to go there?

 

[Truthmatters]

How sad that Americans can rationalize that freedom is bad for America

 

[JWBooth]

Actually I guess I was taxed a little, US taxpayer dollars were used to buy off Mubarak and make him a puppet of ours and I'm sure that didn't help his cause in his people hating him.

Right now, in cubicles in a number of alphabet soup agencies, numbered accounts are being created. The only thing missing is the name of the politician/strongman/leader for the account.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Anyone who thinks this new found freedom is bad for the US

What freedom?

Mob rule is not freedom. Did you miss the videos of them beating on each other over thier differences? Did you miss the body count of them killing each other?

Mob rule isn't freedom, or democracy.

Will you cheer it they "vote in" a theocracy and force, I mean, vote that women wear burquas?

You really hate arabs dont you?

No, just crazy bloodthirsty Muslims hellbent on subjugating the masses.

You are a complete idiot.

 

[rightwinger]

Freedom? That ain't no freedom. Real freedom is not having to buy Health Insurance

Its nothin but a god damn Caliphate...thats what it is

Damned Muslims want to take over the Christian World

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Freedom? That ain't no freedom. Real freedom is not having to buy Health Insurance

Its nothin but a god damn Caliphate...thats what it is

Damned Muslims want to take over the Christian World

Although you stumbled into it like a drunken frat boy, you're actually quite right.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Actually I guess I was taxed a little, US taxpayer dollars were used to buy off Mubarak and make him a puppet of ours and I'm sure that didn't help his cause in his people hating him.

Right now, in cubicles in a number of alphabet soup agencies, numbered accounts are being created. The only thing missing is the name of the politician/strongman/leader for the account.

Well said, and if he one in a thousand chance happens that they turn down our money I'm sure a few explosions will happen that will then be labeled terrorist actions by whoever turned it away.