Can the Nazis come to power in Russia?

[Quentin111]

As you know, Western countries have adopted economic sanctions against Russia in 2014 to incite discontent among the Russian population against the Russian government and against Putin.
But is it not likely that the impoverished population of Russia will elect an ultranationalist government in the next election that will intensify confrontation with the West or even unleash a nuclear war with the US? Similar things were already happening in Germany in the 1930s.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

As you know, Western countries have adopted economic sanctions against Russia in 2014 to incite discontent among the Russian population against the Russian government and against Putin.
But is it not likely that the impoverished population of Russia will elect an ultranationalist government in the next election that will intensify confrontation with the West or even unleash a nuclear war with the US? Similar things were already happening in Germany in the 1930s.

How would we notice the change ?

 

[xyz]

As you know, Western countries have adopted economic sanctions against Russia in 2014 to incite discontent among the Russian population against the Russian government and against Putin.
But is it not likely that the impoverished population of Russia will elect an ultranationalist government in the next election that will intensify confrontation with the West or even unleash a nuclear war with the US? Similar things were already happening in Germany in the 1930s.

You have to be more clear in your question.

If you mean an actual Nazi government, with swastikas and all, I think not. There are historical reasons for this, and quite a lot of older people feel affiliation to the Soviet regime, who fought against the Nazis.

The Soviets also hated Jews, and killed many more people than the Nazis, and had a horrible gulag system which lives on to this day in one form or another.

An nationalist government is already in place, maybe not ultra-nationalist, but full of hate against women, homosexuals, political dissidents, and driven by religion.

 

[Quentin111]

Obviously, Nazis will not come to Russia with a swastika and anti-Semitism as a state ideology. The question is: will a more radical government come to replace Putin's government, which will be able to push the "nuclear button"? Or Russia will simply enter the next cycle, indicated on the following caricature:

 

[xyz]

Putin reinstated a right-wing philosopher who praised Hitler and Mussolini during WWII:
Putin's Philosopher

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/21/...st-is-meddling-in-americas-election.html?_r=0

He is also playing an interesting game with the Communists. They were his allies when he came to power (Yeltsin was against them), and they do have some common ground, in particular regarding nationalistic matters. On the other hand, he also reportedly sometimes steals (falsifies) votes from them in elections.

And of course, there is no condemnation of communism or communist crimes, and statues of Lenin and sometimes even Stalin are still standing in many places in Russia.

 

[TheOldSchool]

As you know, Western countries have adopted economic sanctions against Russia in 2014 to incite discontent among the Russian population against the Russian government and against Putin.
But is it not likely that the impoverished population of Russia will elect an ultranationalist government in the next election that will intensify confrontation with the West or even unleash a nuclear war with the US? Similar things were already happening in Germany in the 1930s.

Why not? They did pretty damn well in the U.S. last November

 

[Comrade Johnson]

Everything is possible in this world...

 

[yiostheoy]

Troll threads are coming out of the woodwork these days.

As fast as I can iggy them another half dozen pop up in its place.

 

[Comrade Johnson]

Troll threads are coming out of the woodwork these days.

As fast as I can iggy them another half dozen pop up in its place.

Why, there are a lot of Nazis in Russia.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Troll threads are coming out of the woodwork these days.

As fast as I can iggy them another half dozen pop up in its place.

Why, there are a lot of Nazis in Russia.

Isn't the Russian sentiment generally anti-Communist?

 

[Comrade Johnson]

Isn't the Russian sentiment generally anti-Communist?

It depends... The communists themselves are not too popular now, but there are tons of idiots who adore Stalin and the like.

 

[Sbiker]

Isn't the Russian sentiment generally anti-Communist?

It depends... The communists themselves are not too popular now, but there are tons of idiots who adore Stalin and the like.

"How I hate communism" - said CJ, born in communist clinic, sitting in house, built by communists in city, defended by communists during WWII....

 

[frigidweirdo]

As you know, Western countries have adopted economic sanctions against Russia in 2014 to incite discontent among the Russian population against the Russian government and against Putin.
But is it not likely that the impoverished population of Russia will elect an ultranationalist government in the next election that will intensify confrontation with the West or even unleash a nuclear war with the US? Similar things were already happening in Germany in the 1930s.

So, because it happened in Germany, you're saying it could happen in Russia? No, it won't. Putin has a stranglehold on Russia right now, it's not going anywhere.

 

[Sbiker]

As you know, Western countries have adopted economic sanctions against Russia in 2014 to incite discontent among the Russian population against the Russian government and against Putin.
But is it not likely that the impoverished population of Russia will elect an ultranationalist government in the next election that will intensify confrontation with the West or even unleash a nuclear war with the US? Similar things were already happening in Germany in the 1930s.

So, because it happened in Germany, you're saying it could happen in Russia? No, it won't. Putin has a stranglehold on Russia right now, it's not going anywhere.

I think, the same chances, like in US. Russia is not mono-national state, like Germany was. There are a lot of different nationalities in Russia, having own interests..

 

[Eugene]

Nazi in Russia are impossible. There are more than 200 nations in Russia living friendly for centuries. They have own traditions, languages, religion and sometimes even their own way of living.
The ideology of nazism is placing one certain nation above all others - it is absolutely far from Russian points of view and it is far from what we have here in Russia.
As for photos posted by CJ - they are very old...about 10-15 years old. When Russia was living in chaos after the USSR collapse. In that times there were a lot of different shit - crime, nazi, falling of all the economy, industry and culture in common.

Ideology of Communism is quite another. And people like it. The crimes of communist government in past is not the ideology but crimes of powerful human beings.

All those sunctions against Russia make me laugh loudly. They seem ridiculous. Thanks to them our agreeculture is becoming much more developed and of higher quality as imported cheap crap stopped or almost stopped coming to our market.
The most serious impact was against investments but now our big projects are invested by Chinese...who cares where money comes from? But West loses profit of cooperating- very smart!

Putin's government has strong positions now. And no chance for liberal opposition to get on the top. People remember very well the times of Yeltsin when they were ruling the country and it was almost ruined. I remember when Putin became prime-minister and I didn't like it. But the more he and his team rules Russia the more I like him and what he is doing.
International policy of Russia is strong and correct but internal one still has much mistakes. Nevertheless new factories, universities, roads, etc are built and wealth of citizens grows.

Here is opinion from Russian Far East.
Eugene. Vladivostok

 

[Quentin111]

In the 90s, Russia was called "Weimar Russia", comparing it with Germany in the 1920s. It was the same thing: hyperinflation, mass unemployment, poverty and rampant crime. In the late 90's, I was afraid that Barkashov and the Nazis could come to replace Yeltsin and the democratic forces in order to "save the country." But in 2000, a former KGB officer, Putin, came to power. Russia from the Nazis rescues the law on the prohibition of extremist ideologies and extremist parties.

 

[Igrok_]

But is it not likely that the impoverished population of Russia will elect an ultranationalist government in the next election that will intensify confrontation with the West or even unleash a nuclear war with the US? Similar things were already happening in Germany in the 1930s.

not likely, however it depends on what do you call ultranationalists.
In nowadays Russia there are two main forces: pro-russian people, which are religious, they adore russian history, religion and traditions as it was before communism for about 1000 years. And the second group is about communism, which hates religion, russian history before 1917 and want to restore communistic order.
Putin is trying to seat on both chairs, but as i suppose earlier or later russian society has to make definitive choice.

 

[Igrok_]

Nice pic)

 

[Eugene]

But is it not likely that the impoverished population of Russia will elect an ultranationalist government in the next election that will intensify confrontation with the West or even unleash a nuclear war with the US? Similar things were already happening in Germany in the 1930s.

not likely, however it depends on what do you call ultranationalists.
In nowadays Russia there are two main forces: pro-russian people, which are religious, they adore russian history, religion and traditions as it was before communism for about 1000 years. And the second group is about communism, which hates religion, russian history before 1917 and want to restore communistic order.
Putin is trying to seat on both chairs, but as i suppose earlier or later russian society has to make definitive choice.

I wouldn't say that.
Few people wish communist order to come back but most wish order, law and prosperity be constant in their country and their future wouldn't be a surprise.
After 26 years of free economy it is impossible to make it strictly regulated by authorities as it was in the USSR.
So everything goes to some new way of living.

It is very difficult to understand which way Russia is moving because main purpose of today authorities is to protect country from external interventions - economical, informational, terroristic and the most important political. Because of that s permanent pressing from west a lot of resources is spent for army and internal security and it doesn't allow to develope economy and social environment.

 

[AlexanderPK]

but full of hate against women

Hate women? Really, how so? How can a man hate women if he is not gay? And most of Russians are not I reckon.
Although he can actually, the ugly one his wife has turned into gaining a hundred pounds in weight and losing all of her feminine attributes.