CDZ Can the KKK, the Black Panther, and Other Similar Groups Be Considered As Terrorists?

Is the KKK a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 54.5%
  • No

    Votes: 10 45.5%

  • Total voters
    22
By looking at a simple definition of 'terror' we see that these groups have and may be currently causing terror for some ethnic groups. This is in no way different to any other group classed as 'terrorists' except that they come from the USA. I think, that it does make sense. What about you?

If an arab stabbing a Jew is "terrorism" and not a "hate crime" then a group whose official policies are racist and bigoted and whose members are often violent is absolutely a terrorist organization.
 
ANOTHER NOTE ON DEMOCRAT CONSERVATIVES:


Which of these facts do you dispute, and why?

The Conservatives:
Conservatives fought to expand slavery while Liberals fought to end it.
Conservatives passed those discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws.
Conservatives supported and passed the Missouri Compromise to protect slavery.
Conservatives supported and passed the Kansas Nebraska Act to expand slavery.
Conservatives supported and backed the Dred Scott Decision.
Conservatives opposed educating blacks and murdered our teachers.
Conservatives fought against anti-lynching laws.
Conservative Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, is well known for having been a "Kleagle" in the Ku Klux Klan.
Conservative Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, personally filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 straight hours to keep it from passage.
Conservatives passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil right laws enacted by Liberals.
Conservatives declared that they would rather vote for a "yellow dog" than vote for a Republican liberal, because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.
Conservative President Woodrow Wilson, reintroduced segregation throughout the federal government immediately upon taking office in 1913.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt's first appointment to the Supreme Court was a life member of the Ku Klux Klan, Sen. Hugo Black, Conservative of Alabama.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt's choice for vice president in 1944 was Harry Truman, who had joined the Ku Klux Klan in Kansas City in 1922.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt resisted Liberal efforts to pass a federal law against lynching.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt opposed integration of the armed forces.
Conservative Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd were the chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Conservatives supported and backed Judge John Ferguson in the case of Plessy v Ferguson.
Conservatives supported the School Board of Topeka Kansas in the case of Brown v The Board of Education of Topeka Kansas.
Conservative public safety commissioner Eugene "Bull" Connor, in Birmingham, Ala., unleashed vicious dogs and turned fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators.
Conservatives were who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the other protesters were fighting.
Conservative Georgia Governor Lester Maddox "brandished an ax hammer to prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant.
Conservative Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama schoolhouse in 1963, declaring there would be segregation forever.
Conservative Arkansas Governor Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of Little Rock public schools.
Conservative Senator John F. Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights Act.
Conservative President John F. Kennedy opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King.
Conservative President John F. Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI.
Conservative President Bill Clinton's mentor was U.S. Senator J. William Fulbright, an Arkansas Conservative and a supporter of racial segregation.
Conservative President Bill Clinton interned for J. William Fulbright in 1966-67.
Conservative Senator J. William Fulbright signed the Southern Manifesto opposing the Supreme Court's 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.
Conservative Senator J. William Fulbright joined with the Dixiecrats in filibustering the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964.
Conservative Senator J. William Fulbright voted against the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
Southern Conservatives opposed desegregation and integration.


Conservatives opposed:
The Emancipation Proclamation
The 13th Amendment
The 14th Amendment
The 15th Amendment
The Reconstruction Act of 1867
The Civil Rights of 1866
The Enforcement Act of 1870
The Forced Act of 1871
The Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871
The Civil Rights Act of 1875
The Civil Rights Act of 1957
The Civil Rights Act of 1960
The United State Civil Rights Commission


The Liberals:
Liberals enacted civil rights laws in the 1950's and 1960's, over the objection of Conservatives.
Liberals founded the HBCU's (Historical Black College's and Universities) and started the NAACP to counter the racist practices of the Conservatives.
Liberals pushed through much of the ground-breaking civil rights legislation in Congress.
Liberals fought slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom, citizenship and the right to vote.
Liberals pushed through much of the groundbreaking civil rights legislation from the 1860s through the 1960s.
liberal Republican President Dwight Eisenhower sent troops into the South to desegregate the schools.
liberal Republican President Eisenhower appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.
liberal Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois, not Conservative President Lyndon Johnson, was the one who pushed through the civil rights laws of the 1960's.
liberal Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois wrote the language for the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
liberal Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing.
Republican liberal and black American, A. Phillip Randolph, organized the 1963 March by Dr. King on Washington.
 
By looking at a simple definition of 'terror' we see that these groups have and may be currently causing terror for some ethnic groups. This is in no way different to any other group classed as 'terrorists' except that they come from the USA. I think, that it does make sense. What about you?

Unless you can point to acts of violence by the KKK or the Black Panthers in the last decade or two, then such a classification would be absurd.

Now the Crips and Bloods, OTH...
 
ANOTHER NOTE ON DEMOCRAT CONSERVATIVES:


Which of these facts do you dispute, and why?

The Conservatives:
Conservatives fought to expand slavery while Liberals fought to end it.
Conservatives passed those discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws.
Conservatives supported and passed the Missouri Compromise to protect slavery.
Conservatives supported and passed the Kansas Nebraska Act to expand slavery.
Conservatives supported and backed the Dred Scott Decision.
Conservatives opposed educating blacks and murdered our teachers.
Conservatives fought against anti-lynching laws.
Conservative Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, is well known for having been a "Kleagle" in the Ku Klux Klan.
Conservative Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, personally filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 straight hours to keep it from passage.
Conservatives passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil right laws enacted by Liberals.
Conservatives declared that they would rather vote for a "yellow dog" than vote for a Republican liberal, because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.
Conservative President Woodrow Wilson, reintroduced segregation throughout the federal government immediately upon taking office in 1913.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt's first appointment to the Supreme Court was a life member of the Ku Klux Klan, Sen. Hugo Black, Conservative of Alabama.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt's choice for vice president in 1944 was Harry Truman, who had joined the Ku Klux Klan in Kansas City in 1922.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt resisted Liberal efforts to pass a federal law against lynching.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt opposed integration of the armed forces.
Conservative Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd were the chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Conservatives supported and backed Judge John Ferguson in the case of Plessy v Ferguson.
Conservatives supported the School Board of Topeka Kansas in the case of Brown v The Board of Education of Topeka Kansas.
Conservative public safety commissioner Eugene "Bull" Connor, in Birmingham, Ala., unleashed vicious dogs and turned fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators.
Conservatives were who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the other protesters were fighting.
Conservative Georgia Governor Lester Maddox "brandished an ax hammer to prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant.
Conservative Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama schoolhouse in 1963, declaring there would be segregation forever.
Conservative Arkansas Governor Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of Little Rock public schools.
Conservative Senator John F. Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights Act.
Conservative President John F. Kennedy opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King.
Conservative President John F. Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI.
Conservative President Bill Clinton's mentor was U.S. Senator J. William Fulbright, an Arkansas Conservative and a supporter of racial segregation.
Conservative President Bill Clinton interned for J. William Fulbright in 1966-67.
Conservative Senator J. William Fulbright signed the Southern Manifesto opposing the Supreme Court's 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.
Conservative Senator J. William Fulbright joined with the Dixiecrats in filibustering the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964.
Conservative Senator J. William Fulbright voted against the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
Southern Conservatives opposed desegregation and integration.


Conservatives opposed:
The Emancipation Proclamation
The 13th Amendment
The 14th Amendment
The 15th Amendment
The Reconstruction Act of 1867
The Civil Rights of 1866
The Enforcement Act of 1870
The Forced Act of 1871
The Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871
The Civil Rights Act of 1875
The Civil Rights Act of 1957
The Civil Rights Act of 1960
The United State Civil Rights Commission


The Liberals:
Liberals enacted civil rights laws in the 1950's and 1960's, over the objection of Conservatives.
Liberals founded the HBCU's (Historical Black College's and Universities) and started the NAACP to counter the racist practices of the Conservatives.
Liberals pushed through much of the ground-breaking civil rights legislation in Congress.
Liberals fought slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom, citizenship and the right to vote.
Liberals pushed through much of the groundbreaking civil rights legislation from the 1860s through the 1960s.
liberal Republican President Dwight Eisenhower sent troops into the South to desegregate the schools.
liberal Republican President Eisenhower appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.
liberal Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois, not Conservative President Lyndon Johnson, was the one who pushed through the civil rights laws of the 1960's.
liberal Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois wrote the language for the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
liberal Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing.
Republican liberal and black American, A. Phillip Randolph, organized the 1963 March by Dr. King on Washington.

Nothing you posted there is even in the same multiverse as the truth.

I assume it was satire...
 
ANOTHER NOTE ON DEMOCRAT CONSERVATIVES:


Which of these facts do you dispute, and why?

The Conservatives:
Conservatives fought to expand slavery while Liberals fought to end it.
Conservatives passed those discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws.
Conservatives supported and passed the Missouri Compromise to protect slavery.
Conservatives supported and passed the Kansas Nebraska Act to expand slavery.
Conservatives supported and backed the Dred Scott Decision.
Conservatives opposed educating blacks and murdered our teachers.
Conservatives fought against anti-lynching laws.
Conservative Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, is well known for having been a "Kleagle" in the Ku Klux Klan.
Conservative Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, personally filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 straight hours to keep it from passage.
Conservatives passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil right laws enacted by Liberals.
Conservatives declared that they would rather vote for a "yellow dog" than vote for a Republican liberal, because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.
Conservative President Woodrow Wilson, reintroduced segregation throughout the federal government immediately upon taking office in 1913.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt's first appointment to the Supreme Court was a life member of the Ku Klux Klan, Sen. Hugo Black, Conservative of Alabama.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt's choice for vice president in 1944 was Harry Truman, who had joined the Ku Klux Klan in Kansas City in 1922.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt resisted Liberal efforts to pass a federal law against lynching.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt opposed integration of the armed forces.
Conservative Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd were the chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Conservatives supported and backed Judge John Ferguson in the case of Plessy v Ferguson.
Conservatives supported the School Board of Topeka Kansas in the case of Brown v The Board of Education of Topeka Kansas.
Conservative public safety commissioner Eugene "Bull" Connor, in Birmingham, Ala., unleashed vicious dogs and turned fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators.
Conservatives were who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the other protesters were fighting.
Conservative Georgia Governor Lester Maddox "brandished an ax hammer to prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant.
Conservative Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama schoolhouse in 1963, declaring there would be segregation forever.
Conservative Arkansas Governor Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of Little Rock public schools.
Conservative Senator John F. Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights Act.
Conservative President John F. Kennedy opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King.
Conservative President John F. Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI.
Conservative President Bill Clinton's mentor was U.S. Senator J. William Fulbright, an Arkansas Conservative and a supporter of racial segregation.
Conservative President Bill Clinton interned for J. William Fulbright in 1966-67.
Conservative Senator J. William Fulbright signed the Southern Manifesto opposing the Supreme Court's 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.
Conservative Senator J. William Fulbright joined with the Dixiecrats in filibustering the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964.
Conservative Senator J. William Fulbright voted against the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
Southern Conservatives opposed desegregation and integration.


Conservatives opposed:
The Emancipation Proclamation
The 13th Amendment
The 14th Amendment
The 15th Amendment
The Reconstruction Act of 1867
The Civil Rights of 1866
The Enforcement Act of 1870
The Forced Act of 1871
The Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871
The Civil Rights Act of 1875
The Civil Rights Act of 1957
The Civil Rights Act of 1960
The United State Civil Rights Commission


The Liberals:
Liberals enacted civil rights laws in the 1950's and 1960's, over the objection of Conservatives.
Liberals founded the HBCU's (Historical Black College's and Universities) and started the NAACP to counter the racist practices of the Conservatives.
Liberals pushed through much of the ground-breaking civil rights legislation in Congress.
Liberals fought slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom, citizenship and the right to vote.
Liberals pushed through much of the groundbreaking civil rights legislation from the 1860s through the 1960s.
liberal Republican President Dwight Eisenhower sent troops into the South to desegregate the schools.
liberal Republican President Eisenhower appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.
liberal Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois, not Conservative President Lyndon Johnson, was the one who pushed through the civil rights laws of the 1960's.
liberal Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois wrote the language for the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
liberal Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing.
Republican liberal and black American, A. Phillip Randolph, organized the 1963 March by Dr. King on Washington.

Nothing you posted there is even in the same multiverse as the truth.

I assume it was satire...

Well, no, the lists are not satire and the challenge still stands for you to dispute he "Conservatism" that marked the political climate of the old South prior to 1964 under the Democrat Banner. Compare the red state/blue state maps of 1960 with one of today. Even a first grader could see the chameleon effect of party affiliation with such a comparison.
Conservatives are now, for the most part, GOP!
 
ANOTHER NOTE ON DEMOCRAT CONSERVATIVES:


Which of these facts do you dispute, and why?

The Conservatives:
Conservatives fought to expand slavery while Liberals fought to end it.
Conservatives passed those discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws.
Conservatives supported and passed the Missouri Compromise to protect slavery.
Conservatives supported and passed the Kansas Nebraska Act to expand slavery.
Conservatives supported and backed the Dred Scott Decision.
Conservatives opposed educating blacks and murdered our teachers.
Conservatives fought against anti-lynching laws.
Conservative Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, is well known for having been a "Kleagle" in the Ku Klux Klan.
Conservative Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, personally filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 straight hours to keep it from passage.
Conservatives passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil right laws enacted by Liberals.
Conservatives declared that they would rather vote for a "yellow dog" than vote for a Republican liberal, because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.
Conservative President Woodrow Wilson, reintroduced segregation throughout the federal government immediately upon taking office in 1913.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt's first appointment to the Supreme Court was a life member of the Ku Klux Klan, Sen. Hugo Black, Conservative of Alabama.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt's choice for vice president in 1944 was Harry Truman, who had joined the Ku Klux Klan in Kansas City in 1922.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt resisted Liberal efforts to pass a federal law against lynching.
Conservative President Franklin D. Roosevelt opposed integration of the armed forces.
Conservative Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd were the chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Conservatives supported and backed Judge John Ferguson in the case of Plessy v Ferguson.
Conservatives supported the School Board of Topeka Kansas in the case of Brown v The Board of Education of Topeka Kansas.
Conservative public safety commissioner Eugene "Bull" Connor, in Birmingham, Ala., unleashed vicious dogs and turned fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators.
Conservatives were who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the other protesters were fighting.
Conservative Georgia Governor Lester Maddox "brandished an ax hammer to prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant.
Conservative Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama schoolhouse in 1963, declaring there would be segregation forever.
Conservative Arkansas Governor Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of Little Rock public schools.
Conservative Senator John F. Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights Act.
Conservative President John F. Kennedy opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King.
Conservative President John F. Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI.
Conservative President Bill Clinton's mentor was U.S. Senator J. William Fulbright, an Arkansas Conservative and a supporter of racial segregation.
Conservative President Bill Clinton interned for J. William Fulbright in 1966-67.
Conservative Senator J. William Fulbright signed the Southern Manifesto opposing the Supreme Court's 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.
Conservative Senator J. William Fulbright joined with the Dixiecrats in filibustering the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964.
Conservative Senator J. William Fulbright voted against the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
Southern Conservatives opposed desegregation and integration.


Conservatives opposed:
The Emancipation Proclamation
The 13th Amendment
The 14th Amendment
The 15th Amendment
The Reconstruction Act of 1867
The Civil Rights of 1866
The Enforcement Act of 1870
The Forced Act of 1871
The Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871
The Civil Rights Act of 1875
The Civil Rights Act of 1957
The Civil Rights Act of 1960
The United State Civil Rights Commission


The Liberals:
Liberals enacted civil rights laws in the 1950's and 1960's, over the objection of Conservatives.
Liberals founded the HBCU's (Historical Black College's and Universities) and started the NAACP to counter the racist practices of the Conservatives.
Liberals pushed through much of the ground-breaking civil rights legislation in Congress.
Liberals fought slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom, citizenship and the right to vote.
Liberals pushed through much of the groundbreaking civil rights legislation from the 1860s through the 1960s.
liberal Republican President Dwight Eisenhower sent troops into the South to desegregate the schools.
liberal Republican President Eisenhower appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.
liberal Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois, not Conservative President Lyndon Johnson, was the one who pushed through the civil rights laws of the 1960's.
liberal Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois wrote the language for the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
liberal Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing.
Republican liberal and black American, A. Phillip Randolph, organized the 1963 March by Dr. King on Washington.

Nothing you posted there is even in the same multiverse as the truth.

I assume it was satire...

Well, no, the lists are not satire and the challenge still stands for you to dispute he "Conservatism" that marked the political climate of the old South prior to 1964 under the Democrat Banner. Compare the red state/blue state maps of 1960 with one of today. Even a first grader could see the chameleon effect of party affiliation with such a comparison.
Conservatives are now, for the most part, GOP!

I won't engage in the CDZ.

Take it up in a fair and honest forum on the board and I will discuss it.
 

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