Can someone show me ONE conservative ideal that has actually worked?

[☭proletarian☭]

The Constitution is generally a clasically liberal document and has worked quite well once its conservative flaws were knocked out of it.

Like slavery and reserving suffrage for the landed gentry, for instance.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

The Constitution is generally a clasically liberal document and has worked quite well once its conservative flaws were knocked out of it.

(cough - BULLSHIT - cough)

The FF practically worshiped Locke, dude.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Can you show me ONE liberal that can have an original thought and not have to COPY a conservative?

That doesn't even begin to make sense as a sentence or a point.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

The constitution is a conservative document and it has worked out pretty damn well.

Yea, TODAY it's conservative, but when it was written, it was wildly liberal.

Prove it.

wow....

This, my friends, is why I say our schools are filing us.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

All conservative ideas have worked when implemented.

They saved slavery and kept the woman from getting suffrage?

 

[American Horse]

Rule of Law is a conservative idea that has stood the test of time.

Contrast that with the volatile whims of monarchs, dictators, and other statist/mob/cult leader structures.

Exactly right, and it was conceived by the first "world class" very conservative republic of Rome, and lasted for almost 500 years. It was the seminal model for our own system following throwing off monarchial rule.

 

[boedicca]

All conservative ideas have worked when implemented.

They saved slavery and kept the woman from getting suffrage?

Actually, no.

Rule of Law is a conservative principle. It is the application of Rule of Law that ended slavery and enacted suffrage.

 

[boedicca]

I prefer the original.

Far more useful and amusing than this newfangled 2.0 version.

 

[txlonghorn]

The Constitution is generally a clasically liberal document and has worked quite well once its conservative flaws were knocked out of it.

(cough - BULLSHIT - cough)

OK, steer (cause you are obviously sterile): you want the document when minorities and women could not vote; you want the document when slavery was constitutional; you want a reactionary la la land.

Go to, silly fellow, go to.

I love it...name calling and insults. Now there's a liberal idea that has worked...for nothing.

It has already been pointed out that the Constitution was written by "conservatives" who were more liberal than conservative at the time. SOOOOOO......make up your mind.

 

[txlonghorn]

Yea, TODAY it's conservative, but when it was written, it was wildly liberal.

Prove it.

wow....

This, my friends, is why I say our schools are filing us.

FILING us? You missed the day they taught spelling or what?

 

[HUGGY]

Can someone show me ONE conservative ideal that has actually worked?
They did a pretty good job stealing elections with the electronic voting machines.

 

[txlonghorn]

I'd say Reagan's foreign policy worked pretty damn good....it ended the Cold War

 

[☭proletarian☭]

All conservative ideas have worked when implemented.

They saved slavery and kept the woman from getting suffrage?

Actually, no.

Rule of Law is a conservative principle. It is the application of Rule of Law that ended slavery and enacted suffrage.

Rule of law exists in all societies save for anarchies. Are you defining everything other than anarchy as 'conservative'?

And the law was what made slavery a legal institution.

The more you people try to spin things, the more ignorant, arrogant and dishonest you prove yourselves.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

I'd say Reagan's foreign policy worked pretty damn good....it ended the Cold War

You mean like the START treaty?

 

[Shogun]

All conservative ideas have worked when implemented.

They saved slavery and kept the woman from getting suffrage?

Actually, no.

Rule of Law is a conservative principle. It is the application of Rule of Law that ended slavery and enacted suffrage.

Helen Kendrick Johnson <--- NOT A LIBERAL

Both Helen and her husband were both active in the anti-suffrage movement. From 1894–1896 she was editor of the American Woman’s Journal and founded the Meridian Club in 1886. Rossiter was author of a pamphlet titled, Why Women Do Not Want the Ballot, and in 1897 Helen wrote what is often considered the best summary of the arguments against woman suffrage: Woman and the Republic. In which she argued that women didn't need the vote in order to establish more legal, economic and other equality and that women's role in the domestic sphere was essential for maintenance of the American republic. She was openly critical of the writing of Elizabeth Cady Stanton and her work The Woman's Bible linking it to radicalism and socialism.[1] During her time as an anti-suffragette activist she addressed several legislative committee in Albany and Washington and wrote many newspaper articles and pamphlets on the subject. In 1910 she founded the Guidon Club, an anti-suffragette organisation dedicated to the study of politcs and government.[4][3]

Helen Kendrick Johnson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[boedicca]

Rule of law exists in all societies save for anarchies. Are you defining everything other than anarchy as 'conservative'?

And the law was what made slavery a legal institution.

The more you people try to spin things, the more ignorant, arrogant and dishonest you prove yourselves.

You do not understand the concept of Rule of Law.

I suggest you read up on it and then contrast monarchs, dictators, and other totalitarian regimes with it.

 

[&#9773;proletarian&#9773;]

I'm familiar with it.

If you mean the doctrine that all should be equal before the law- you end up back and Hegel and Locke and the rest of the major liberal philosophers the FF studied and based their views and the Constitution upon.

 

[boedicca]

I'd say Reagan's foreign policy worked pretty damn good....it ended the Cold War

You mean like the START treaty?

Reagan wasn't President in 1991.

Just sayin'.

Reagan's proposal of it did cause the Soviet Union to go into a frenzy of military investments which basically cratered their economy and led to the break up. Good gamesmanship on Reagan's part.

 

[txlonghorn]

Can someone show me ONE conservative ideal that has actually worked?
They did a pretty good job stealing elections with the electronic voting machines.

And the dems in FL did a great job of screwing up a punch card. HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT HAPPEN????

You either punch the card or you don't. There is no half punch option.

But you're right Huggy, electronic voting is far to advanced for America. We should go back to writing a name on a piece of paper so that when the dems lose again in 12, they have no one to blame but themselves.

 

[Oscar Wao]

Free Market worked in the 1920s as I stated earlier here.