CDZ Can our voting technology be hacked?

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    The answer, according to the article posted below seems to be an emphatic YES! It describes a number of actual hacks done by academic researchers as well as other methods that could be used by individuals or organizations to alter the votes cast during an election. There does not seem to be a clear answer to whether or not we could detect all of these hacks after the fact. However, there are some of them that could be detected by an actual examination of paper records created as part of the voting process in some areas. There are other technologies in use, however, that do not create any kind of paper record of each vote.


    How to Hack an Election in 7 Minutes
     
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    Simply put, if ANY part of the voting process is directly, or indirectly, connected to the internet, then yes, it can be hacked. It's just that simple. Any program that is written can be hacked, period. There is always a way. The real question, to me, is was it/ will it be hacked? And if so, then how readily would it be detectable?
     
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    Some of the ways they described to hack it didn't even involve connection to the internet. They did, however, require either direct access to the machines themselves or to the code that runs the machines.
     
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    The Russians would probably know, one way or the other.
     
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    My impression is that there are several plausible ways for the election to be hacked.

    First, they can change the programming of each machine to record a certain percentage of the vote differently than the voter's intent. This would require access to the machines and a number of different people to modify enough machines to make a difference. The fact that it would involve several people "on the ground" makes it seem unlikely that this could happen without being detected but I wouldn't discount it entirely.

    Secondly, they can hack into the computers that do the accumulation of votes and modify the vote totals there. This would be easily detectable after the fact as long as the machines at the precinct level were preserved. If such a problem occurred in this election, I would expect the upcoming recount to identify discrepencies.

    The third way would involve bribing an individual who had access to the code that drives the voting machines. Considering the large sums of money that would be involved, I think that this scenario is at least possible. The individual in question could then modify the code that was delivered to the voting machines to support the election so that it changed some percentage of the votes to the candidate who was supported by the individuals who did the bribing. This type of hack would not be detected by a standard recount process. It would only be discovered if an independent party actually examined the code that was resident on each voting machine.
     
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    Anything that has programming and receives an input can be hacked. That is a basic fact.
    An internet connection is not necessary. If the machine receives an input then you can hack it through that connection. Offline hacking requires the hacker to actually be present at the machine to do it but it is entirely possible.
     
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    Voting has always been hacked. What kind of fekkin idiot would think otherwise?
    All that matters is $$$, YOU THINK ABOUT THAT.

    What is best for the money,. These silly elections... you goddam idiots think your vote means anything?!?
     
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    ^CDZ - please treat your posts accordingly.
     
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