Can government be expected to make life "fair"?

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    "Those who level do not equalise"

    -Edmund Burke


    There are two main philosophies in politics today; one is that the role of law and government is to render justice, to stop corruption, and to be sure that no one's fundamental human rights are stepped on. The other is that government has the responsibility to ensure equal outcomes in every situation, regardless of the individual's actions and/or the level of their participation.

    Of course, the first one is a basic description of our own Constitutional and limited form of government. The second is the political philosophy of Marxism, and arguably is also that of what's been called "The Obama Doctrine".

    We've all heard the saying; "no one ever said that life was going to be fair". This always seems to have a bitter ring to it and is usually said by someone who's essentially throwing a bucket of cold water on someone's hopes and dreams -- however naive they may have been. But the facts still bare out that life (nature) is anything but equal or egalitarian, in reality, it's as diverse as the number of species there are on the planet. So the question is; is it realistic to expect that government can be used to do something that appears to be impossible given the facts of life? Or, do we have a chance now to use government control to do what previously has only lead to the empowerment of a corrupt few, and the poverty and enslavment of the masses? ...Can we 'get it right' this time, or are we just getting duped again by those who have no intention of sharing power once they've claimed it all for themselves?
     
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    No. We have the PURSUIT of happiness. There is no guarantee of anything and no person, entity, govt can bestow it upon anyone.
     
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    Why do you clowns say such stupid shit? Are you ALL fools? Is it the "inbreeding"? What is it that causes you guys to write such nonsense?
     
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    Speaking of inbreeding, redean is the Single Branch Family Tree Poster Moron.

    Equality under the law is not the same as equality of outcome. We can't have both.
     
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    Glad to hear that you see the stupidity of this kind of thinking -- we still have a chance to stop this mindlessness.
     
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    So you believe that nonsense too? Didn't see that one coming. :lol:
     
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    Government fails because of it's very design, for every Reagan or FDR(depending on your idea of a great leader) there are several Jimmy Carters and George Bush's to mess it all up.

    I can't get 4-5 friends to agree on anything from what movie to watch or restaurant to eat at and we expect 535 Congressman/Senators, a President and thousands of bureaucrats to get 300 million citizens to walk in one direction like a bunch of cows following a lead bull. sorry but ;to me; that's a bit:cuckoo:
     
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    Government can be expected to make life fair. It's a stupid expectation to have though.
     
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    And here I thought that civilization itself was to negate the role of nature and the brutal corrections she employs. The trend towards more human rights rather than a calicification at one point, a here and no further, is the mark of a successful civilization. Just as the concept of being able to hold private property rather than rent from the king or lord that provides our security is a step up from the tribal slave raiding society, the society that provides a more enveloping security allows it's people to take the risks and create the wonders of the new generation. The massive sharing of information on a global basis is going to be the next industrial revolution.

    So, I don't know about you, but I'll use my tech, share with my fellow man and tell nature to fuck off.
     
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    Good question , not while being impartial or constitutional.
     

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