Can God cure as well as kill? Should God kill or cure?

There invariably comes a point when debating issues such as this with true believers is in itself totally pointless.
 
As long as atheists - especially militant atheists - perceive God to be some magical fairy tale then everything they see will skew to that result. There won't be one single thing that they will agree with or accept. Whereas if they were trying to objectively analyze the evidence for spirit creating the material world they would be more apt to listen to the whole argument and not look for trivial things to nitpick.

True. The immorality of the fable as a whole has them wanting to kill your supernatural prick of a God, --- even as they wonder why moral people, or those who say they are, like you, are idol worshiping your genocidal son murdering prick of a God.

Regards
DL
If you start from the belief that the first eleven chapters of the Torah are an allegorical account of world history before the great migration from Mesopotamia - which was an actual historical event - then the first eleven chapters of the Torah takes on new meaning. Seen in this light these accounts should be viewed less like fairy tales and more like how important information was passed down in ancient times. Just as the Chinese used well known history and everyday things as symbols in their written language to make words easier to remember, ancient man used stories to pass down historical events and important knowledge to future generations. Interspersed in these allegorical accounts of history are wisdoms that they deemed important enough to pass down and remember. Such as man knows right from wrong and when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong he rationalizes he didn't do wrong. Most people don't even realize this wisdom is in the Torah because they read it critically instead of searching for the wisdom that ancient man knew and found important enough to include in his account of world history.

You need to keep in mind that these accounts are 6,000 years old and were passed down orally from one generation to the next for thousands of years. Surely ancient man believed these accounts were of the utmost importance otherwise they would not have been passed down for thousands of years before they were recorded in writing. You shouldn't view these accounts using the context of the modern world. Unfortunately, you are so far removed from these events that you have no idea of the original meaning. I bet you don't even know what the account of the Tower of Babel was about. You read these texts like they were written yesterday looking for ways to discredit them and make yourself feel superior rather than seeking the original meaning and wisdom. Shame on you.

True that it is old barbaric immoral garbage that we should ignore today for the idiocy it is. Tell all your Christian garbage collecting friends.

Regards
DL
 
As long as atheists - especially militant atheists - perceive God to be some magical fairy tale then everything they see will skew to that result. There won't be one single thing that they will agree with or accept. Whereas if they were trying to objectively analyze the evidence for spirit creating the material world they would be more apt to listen to the whole argument and not look for trivial things to nitpick.

True. The immorality of the fable as a whole has them wanting to kill your supernatural prick of a God, --- even as they wonder why moral people, or those who say they are, like you, are idol worshiping your genocidal son murdering prick of a God.

Regards
DL
If you start from the belief that the first eleven chapters of the Torah are an allegorical account of world history before the great migration from Mesopotamia - which was an actual historical event - then the first eleven chapters of the Torah takes on new meaning. Seen in this light these accounts should be viewed less like fairy tales and more like how important information was passed down in ancient times. Just as the Chinese used well known history and everyday things as symbols in their written language to make words easier to remember, ancient man used stories to pass down historical events and important knowledge to future generations. Interspersed in these allegorical accounts of history are wisdoms that they deemed important enough to pass down and remember. Such as man knows right from wrong and when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong he rationalizes he didn't do wrong. Most people don't even realize this wisdom is in the Torah because they read it critically instead of searching for the wisdom that ancient man knew and found important enough to include in his account of world history.

You need to keep in mind that these accounts are 6,000 years old and were passed down orally from one generation to the next for thousands of years. Surely ancient man believed these accounts were of the utmost importance otherwise they would not have been passed down for thousands of years before they were recorded in writing. You shouldn't view these accounts using the context of the modern world. Unfortunately, you are so far removed from these events that you have no idea of the original meaning. I bet you don't even know what the account of the Tower of Babel was about. You read these texts like they were written yesterday looking for ways to discredit them and make yourself feel superior rather than seeking the original meaning and wisdom. Shame on you.

True that it is old barbaric immoral garbage that we should ignore today for the idiocy it is. Tell all your Christian garbage collecting friends.

Regards
DL
No. Actually it isn't. Genesis is the allegorical account of the history of the world that all people share. Chapter 1 and 2 of Genesis is the allegorical account of creation. Specifically, that the universe did have a beginning and that man is a product of the universe. We need to stop reading the Bible like we think it is a fairy tale. These are allegorical accounts of history that ancient man deemed important enough to orally pass down from generation to generation for thousands of years. We shouldn't view these accounts using the context of the modern world. We are so far removed from these events that we have lost all original meaning which is why some modern men view these accounts as fairy tales instead of what they really are; ancient man's allegorical account of world history.
 
There invariably comes a point when debating issues such as this with true believers is in itself totally pointless.

I see that you know Christians well.

Remember that you should be thinking of the lurkers as we all know that the right wing loonies and literalists cannot be reasoned with.

Lurkers will see us as better at debates and discussions than those like the right wingers here.

Regards
DL
 
As long as atheists - especially militant atheists - perceive God to be some magical fairy tale then everything they see will skew to that result. There won't be one single thing that they will agree with or accept. Whereas if they were trying to objectively analyze the evidence for spirit creating the material world they would be more apt to listen to the whole argument and not look for trivial things to nitpick.

True. The immorality of the fable as a whole has them wanting to kill your supernatural prick of a God, --- even as they wonder why moral people, or those who say they are, like you, are idol worshiping your genocidal son murdering prick of a God.

Regards
DL
If you start from the belief that the first eleven chapters of the Torah are an allegorical account of world history before the great migration from Mesopotamia - which was an actual historical event - then the first eleven chapters of the Torah takes on new meaning. Seen in this light these accounts should be viewed less like fairy tales and more like how important information was passed down in ancient times. Just as the Chinese used well known history and everyday things as symbols in their written language to make words easier to remember, ancient man used stories to pass down historical events and important knowledge to future generations. Interspersed in these allegorical accounts of history are wisdoms that they deemed important enough to pass down and remember. Such as man knows right from wrong and when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong he rationalizes he didn't do wrong. Most people don't even realize this wisdom is in the Torah because they read it critically instead of searching for the wisdom that ancient man knew and found important enough to include in his account of world history.

You need to keep in mind that these accounts are 6,000 years old and were passed down orally from one generation to the next for thousands of years. Surely ancient man believed these accounts were of the utmost importance otherwise they would not have been passed down for thousands of years before they were recorded in writing. You shouldn't view these accounts using the context of the modern world. Unfortunately, you are so far removed from these events that you have no idea of the original meaning. I bet you don't even know what the account of the Tower of Babel was about. You read these texts like they were written yesterday looking for ways to discredit them and make yourself feel superior rather than seeking the original meaning and wisdom. Shame on you.

True that it is old barbaric immoral garbage that we should ignore today for the idiocy it is. Tell all your Christian garbage collecting friends.

Regards
DL
No. Actually it isn't. Genesis is the allegorical account of the history of the world that all people share. Chapter 1 and 2 of Genesis is the allegorical account of creation. Specifically, that the universe did have a beginning and that man is a product of the universe. We need to stop reading the Bible like we think it is a fairy tale. These are allegorical accounts of history that ancient man deemed important enough to orally pass down from generation to generation for thousands of years. We shouldn't view these accounts using the context of the modern world. We are so far removed from these events that we have lost all original meaning which is why some modern men view these accounts as fairy tales instead of what they really are; ancient man's allegorical account of world history.

That believers stupidly read as real and literal historic. Therein lies the mental damage your religion gifts theists with.

Regards
DL
 
There invariably comes a point when debating issues such as this with true believers is in itself totally pointless.
Only because you lack the intellectual capacity to hold that discussion.

Wow. Stop looking into a mirror. You cannot even follow a bus let alone a discussion or debate. That is why so many ignore you.

That would include me most of the time.

Regards
DL
 
As long as atheists - especially militant atheists - perceive God to be some magical fairy tale then everything they see will skew to that result. There won't be one single thing that they will agree with or accept. Whereas if they were trying to objectively analyze the evidence for spirit creating the material world they would be more apt to listen to the whole argument and not look for trivial things to nitpick.

True. The immorality of the fable as a whole has them wanting to kill your supernatural prick of a God, --- even as they wonder why moral people, or those who say they are, like you, are idol worshiping your genocidal son murdering prick of a God.

Regards
DL
If you start from the belief that the first eleven chapters of the Torah are an allegorical account of world history before the great migration from Mesopotamia - which was an actual historical event - then the first eleven chapters of the Torah takes on new meaning. Seen in this light these accounts should be viewed less like fairy tales and more like how important information was passed down in ancient times. Just as the Chinese used well known history and everyday things as symbols in their written language to make words easier to remember, ancient man used stories to pass down historical events and important knowledge to future generations. Interspersed in these allegorical accounts of history are wisdoms that they deemed important enough to pass down and remember. Such as man knows right from wrong and when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong he rationalizes he didn't do wrong. Most people don't even realize this wisdom is in the Torah because they read it critically instead of searching for the wisdom that ancient man knew and found important enough to include in his account of world history.

You need to keep in mind that these accounts are 6,000 years old and were passed down orally from one generation to the next for thousands of years. Surely ancient man believed these accounts were of the utmost importance otherwise they would not have been passed down for thousands of years before they were recorded in writing. You shouldn't view these accounts using the context of the modern world. Unfortunately, you are so far removed from these events that you have no idea of the original meaning. I bet you don't even know what the account of the Tower of Babel was about. You read these texts like they were written yesterday looking for ways to discredit them and make yourself feel superior rather than seeking the original meaning and wisdom. Shame on you.

True that it is old barbaric immoral garbage that we should ignore today for the idiocy it is. Tell all your Christian garbage collecting friends.

Regards
DL
No. Actually it isn't. Genesis is the allegorical account of the history of the world that all people share. Chapter 1 and 2 of Genesis is the allegorical account of creation. Specifically, that the universe did have a beginning and that man is a product of the universe. We need to stop reading the Bible like we think it is a fairy tale. These are allegorical accounts of history that ancient man deemed important enough to orally pass down from generation to generation for thousands of years. We shouldn't view these accounts using the context of the modern world. We are so far removed from these events that we have lost all original meaning which is why some modern men view these accounts as fairy tales instead of what they really are; ancient man's allegorical account of world history.

That believers stupidly read as real and literal historic. Therein lies the mental damage your religion gifts theists with.

Regards
DL
So just to be clear here, you don't believe that Genesis is the allegorical account of history that all nations share?

How do you explain the account of the Tower of Babel?
 
There invariably comes a point when debating issues such as this with true believers is in itself totally pointless.
Only because you lack the intellectual capacity to hold that discussion.

Wow. Stop looking into a mirror. You cannot even follow a bus let alone a discussion or debate. That is why so many ignore you.

That would include me most of the time.

Regards
DL
I'm not the one who just dismissed accounts of ancient men who thought so highly of them that it was passed down orally from generation to generation for thousands of years and calls them fairy tales when the evidence clearly shows they are allegorical accounts of actual events.
 
There invariably comes a point when debating issues such as this with true believers is in itself totally pointless.

I see that you know Christians well.

Remember that you should be thinking of the lurkers as we all know that the right wing loonies and literalists cannot be reasoned with.

Lurkers will see us as better at debates and discussions than those like the right wingers here.

Regards
DL
You have got to love the seduction of atheists by socialists. It's comical to watch.

Karl is ripe for the plucking.
 
Thanks for that chat ding. You are back on ignore.

You teach nothing and refuse to learn from your betters. And no, I do not mean me in this case.

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DL
 
Thanks for that chat ding. You are back on ignore.

You teach nothing and refuse to learn from your betters. And no, I do not mean me in this case.

Regards
DL
That's a good move on your part. Run while you still can, but before you go... if you don't believe any of the bible then do you believe Israel has a valid claim on the land they stole from the palestinians?
 

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