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Only (some) dead people are white (for a while), and the pinky-grey alive sort are not a nationality. There is only one race, the human. Therefore only an idiot could be a 'white nationalist', before you get onto questions of ethics. Particular groups of pinkypeople in particular places may have national claims, but that is a different question, surely? In the US various groups seem to use almost any old nonsense to put others down, because the name of the game is competition. Don't you think it might be more profitable to ask if competition were ethical? I'd vote no on that one.
More please. I'd love to hear how competition is unethical.
Nope.Can ethical people be White Nationalists?
It's something I've pondered at different times in my life. I am wondering what others think.
what Is A White Nationalist?
White Nationalism
from wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia
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White Nationalism Advocates A racial Definition (or Redefinition) Of White National Identity, As Opposed To multiculturalism. The Contemporary Movement In The united States Is A Reaction To The Apparent Decline (based On Us Census Projections) In White Demographics, Politics And Culture.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-first_things_0-0>[1]</SUP>
According To samuel Francis, A Key White Nationalist Writer, It Is "a Movement That Rejects Equality As An Ideal And Insists On An Enduring Core Of Human Nature Transmitted By Heredity."<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-1>[2]</SUP> anti-racist Organizations Generally Have Argued That Ideas Such As white Pride And White Nationalism Exist Merely To Provide A Sanitized Public Face For white Supremacy.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-2>[3]</SUP></B>
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the Goal Of White Nationalism Is To Appeal To A Larger Audience. This Has Been Done Through The Repackaging, Relabeling, And Transformation Of White Supremacy Into Something That Would Appeal To A Broader, More Educated Audience. Many Appear As Nonviolent Groups Working For separatism.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-3>[4]</SUP>
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Supporters See Themselves Defending The Legitimate Civil Rights Of white People Against Society's Alleged Racial Double Standards.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-swain_4-0>[5]</SUP> jared Taylor, Another Key Writer In The Movement, Claims Similar Racial Views Were Held By Many Mainstream American Leaders Before The 1950s.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-5>[6]</SUP> Opponents Accuse Them Of Hatred, Racial Bigotry And Destructive identity Politics.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-first_things_0-1>[1]</SUP><SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-6>[7]</SUP>
according To samuel P. Huntington, The Modern Movement Is Increasingly Cultured, Intellectual And Academically Trained.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-7>[8]</SUP> Rather Than Espouse Violence, They Use Statistics And social Science Data To Argue For A Self-conscious White Identity.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-8>[9]</SUP> They Say A Natural Hierarchy Should Triumph Over The "false Promise Of egalitarianism"<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-9>[10]</SUP> And That The Downfall Of White Dominance Spells Doom For Representative Government, The Rule Of Law And Freedom Of Speech.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-10>[11]</SUP>
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A Point Of Contention For White Nationalists And Opponents Alike Is The Issue Of "white" Identity. While The Common Definition Of A Singular "white" Or "european" Race Is Largely An Anthropological Archaism<SUP class="noprint Template-fact">[citation Needed]</SUP>, Many White Nationalists Continue To Hold This Belief, As The White Nationalist Movement Depends On The Existence Of Such A Categorization.
Supporters Say They Stand For Racial Self-preservation And Claim Culture Itself Is A Product Of Race.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-11>[12]</SUP> As A Result, According To Huntington, They Say The Demographic Shift In The Us Towards Non-whites Brings A New Culture That Is Intellectually And Morally Inferior.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-12>[13]</SUP> With It Comes affirmative Action, immigrant Ghettos And Declining Educational Standards.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-13>[14]</SUP> By Challenging Established Policy On Immigration, Civil Rights And Racial Integration, They Seek To Build Bridges With Moderately Conservative White Citizens.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-14>[15]</SUP>
white Separatism And supremacism Are Two Smaller Subgroups Within White Nationalism.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-swain_4-1>[5]</SUP> The Former Seek A Separate White Nation-state, While The Latter Add Ideas From social Darwinism And nazism To Their Ideology.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-15>[16]</SUP> Some White Nationalists Deny They Are In Either Category.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-16>[17]</SUP> Both Schools Of Thought Generally Avoid The Term "supremacy", Saying It Has Negative Connotations.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-17>[18]</SUP>
Ethics \Eth"ics\, n. [Cf. F. ['e]thique. See Ethic.]
The science of human duty; the body of rules of duty drawn
from this science; a particular system of principles and
rules concerting duty, whether true or false; rules of
practice in respect to a single class of human actions; as,
political or social ethics; medical ethics.
That's right. To be an ethical lawyer means you adhere to the code of the law.
To be an ethical doctor means you adhere to your oath.
To be an ethical white supremacist, you adhere to whatever code they have.
That doesn't mean you are necessarily ethical in other areas of your life, however.
Like, to be an ethical nazi, you believe in mass murder? Can't see it.
Thats because everybody hates you except me
that may be because you confusing the meaning of the word ethics to mean good, decent, moral or some varient of same.
Ethics are rules of a group or organization.
One can be an ethical mafia assassin. But most of us might be inclined to think that a highly ethical mafia assassin isn't really a very moral person.
See the dif?
Yep. Not many people seem to use the word in this correct sense though, and words do shift their meaning.
If the meaning of ethical changes, we'll just have to invent a new word that has that meaning.
Agreed. This meaning doesn't seem to be very generally known though, does it? I've been around quite a few people I'd call ethical and some who studied ethics without ever grasping it. You extend my knowledge. Thank you.
